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breadmonkey

$1 STT, 6-handed, down to the last 3.
Blinds 50/100

Me: 5400
Viallain: 5400
Shortstack: 1200
(approx)

Villain is a terrible player who has been very lucky. I have noted throughout this game that he makes massive preflop raises from anywhere with the likes of 44,55,77.

Since we got down to 3, he has tried to steal EVERY time he has been on the button.

So, on the button, he raises to 500. I'm in the SB with TT. Judging by what I've observed so far, I figure him for one of his pps. I push, because I know he will call with a low pp. He shows QQ and I'm out.

Was the push a little extreme? Should I have just reraised 1000 or something? Is it too cowardly to fold here and wait for the shortstack to be crushed?

Gholimoli

Theory says to avoid the only stack the can bust you.
even with the read on villian and even if his as bad as you say he is the fact remains that he can bust you.
you dont need to take him on as there is a short stack who is about to bust.
avoid confrontations with stacks that can bust you unless you have a very good hand.dont gamble.

ianmc38

breadmonkey wrote:

Was the push a little extreme?

Yes.

ArmaniJeanss

If the villian will call with 22-99 then pushing is indeed correct.

Gholimoli

ArmaniJeanss wrote:

If the villian will call with 22-99 then pushing is indeed correct.

this is not true.
even with an over pair your giving your self 20% of busting.
considering the range of villian call would be 22+ ,AJ+ then you have 60% of winning and 40% of busting.
your any a very good position that does not require taking such risks.

Norwich Fan Rob

TT is a very strong hand 3 handed, and button could literally have atc on the button , and is liable to call with any lower pair, Ax, maybe even Kx.
3 handed i push here also.
6 handed STTs are all about the win.

marius

breadmonkey wrote:

$1 STT, 6-handed, down to the last 3.
Blinds 50/100

Me: 5400
Viallain: 5400
Shortstack: 1200
(approx)

Villain is a terrible player who has been very lucky. I have noted throughout this game that he makes massive preflop raises from anywhere with the likes of 44,55,77.

Since we got down to 3, he has tried to steal EVERY time he has been on the button.

So, on the button, he raises to 500. I'm in the SB with TT. Judging by what I've observed so far, I figure him for one of his pps. I push, because I know he will call with a low pp. He shows QQ and I'm out.

Was the push a little extreme? Should I have just reraised 1000 or something? Is it too cowardly to fold here and wait for the shortstack to be crushed?

Even muppets can get good hands. If he was as bad as you say I would have waited until shortstack was gone and then you are 1 on 1 against a muppet.

5starpool

I think the only thing you did wrong was the push for 5400 when he had only made in 500. You said he raised every time he had the button. In this case with TT you were unlikely to be behind since he raises as a matter of course. Coupled with the fact that it was 3 handed, a raise was definitely the best option, about 1400 would have been my number.

You were unlucky to find he had QQ. Make a note about him, and move on, thats all you can do.

Washout

Blinds are only 50/100

Shortstack doubles up he is back in the game.

I agree with NFR. Push here for me also.

ianmc38

Norwich Fan Rob wrote:

TT is a very strong hand 3 handed, and button could literally have atc on the button , and is liable to call with any lower pair, Ax, maybe even Kx.
3 handed i push here also.
6 handed STTs are all about the win.

Why push for another 5000 when the only hand that will call you is one that your 50/50 or a big dog against? There's still a shortstack left in so why risk the whole STT and all your stack on a push?

breadmonkey

Why push for another 5000 when the only hand that will call you is one that your 50/50 or a big dog against?

In this case, I knew he would have called with a lower pocekt pair, in which case I was dominating him. That's what I thought he had. But I was wrong.

Norwich Fan Rob

a lot of players will call for their stack with hands far far worse than TT 3 handed in my experience.

granted their is a lot of play left, and if he is bad, maybe let him have this one.

if u make this 1500, 7/10 bad players come flying over the top with Ax here.

Hectorjelly

Gholimoli wrote:

even with an over pair your giving your self 20% of busting.

lol, gholimoli seriously you need to take some medication or something. Stop being so scared of busting out of tournaments and giving out this terrible advice. If you have an overpair here you have an 80% chance of having 11/12 of the chips in play, which is well worth the 20% chance of busting since it pretty much guarantees 1st.

In the hand itself I dont really like the push that much as even a bad opponent is probably going to fold a lot of hands which you would like him to call with, and there isnt that much in the pot yet. I would probably flat call.

Waylander

I would have reraised, most probably all in. Gholimoli your thinking is sound if you are only playing to finish in the money, but I think you have to be playing for the win here, and you can not worry too much about getting outdrawn by a 4-1 shot. Ianmc38, I think you have seriously underestimated the hands that would call you in this situation, especially taking into account the description of the villain in this hand. You would be miles ahead most of the time if he calls here to my mind.

Lafortezza

Against villains probable range I think a push is ok. Call and bet a non-scary flop would also be my choice.

breadmonkey

Call and bet a non-scary flop would also be my choice.

Lol, flop had a Q in this case!

Hectorjelly

breadmonkey wrote:

Lol, flop had a Q in this case!

Bet and fold to a raise, who knows he might fold Jacks