Schols timetables

ApeXaviour

Anyone know when they'll be up? Will they be in the regular places SF annual timetables would be posted. Or is it separate depts like JS?

Should applicants be recieving emails by now at all?



I'd ask on tcdsu.org but apart from not logging me in it doesnt seem to be very active (no posts in 2 months in the edu forum).

Yeah the forum has only recently gone back online, so that explains the lack of posts in Education.

Anyways, the timetables will be up at the end of Feb/start of march. All I've been told is that they will go up on the department notice boards, so I think it would be a department/school decision as to which one they go up on (if not both)

[I had this written at around half 4 btw]

ApeXaviour

GRRR... still not up.

I'd kinda like to know when I'm on/off etc...

Time Magazine

It is very frustrating. The Exams Office really should have published them by now. It's exceptionally unfair on the students who will be essentially screwed over by the timetables (having four in a week and then one a fortnight after etc.)

I just hope they're nice and spread out, and towards the end of the period.

rp171

i kinda assumed that most people apply for schols under the assumption that getting schols would be handy, then suddenly realise that it involves work, and a few exams at easter, followed by just not turning up.

Nietzschean

rp171 wrote:

i kinda assumed that most people apply for schols under the assumption that getting schols would be handy, then suddenly realise that it involves work, and a few exams at easter, followed by just not turning up.

by the time one would apply for schols neither of those misconceptions would be true... in fact the difficulty of schols is quite often overstated(not saying its easy by any stretch but...)

Barry Aldwell

Nietzschean wrote:

by the time one would apply for schols neither of those misconceptions would be true... in fact the difficulty of schols is quite often overstated(not saying its easy by any stretch but...)

So it's kinda like the leaving cert, then? Everybody harps on about how hard it is, you lose sleep over it for months, then you get to it and think "Those feckers, this isn't anywhere near as hard as they made out"?

punka

I wouldn't underestimate its difficulty. Every year a lot of very talented people are very upset on Trinity Monday. Maybe people find it less bad than they anticipated because they're so well-prepared as a result of expecting the worst.

Exams Offices

Exams Offices wrote:

Hi there,

Thank you for your email. The timetables will be given to departments by the end of this week. Thank
you.

Lucy Oakshott
Examinations and Timetables Office
West Theatre
University of Dublin
Trinity College
Dublin 2.

Emailed them earlier today, got this in response.

Ridiculous and typical that it took so long for them to come out.

Nietzschean

Barry Aldwell wrote:

So it's kinda like the leaving cert, then? Everybody harps on about how hard it is, you lose sleep over it for months, then you get to it and think "Those feckers, this isn't anywhere near as hard as they made out"?

no, the lc was pretty handy...

though its not unattainable.... in some cases the schol exams were easier than the summer exams in my year...

ApeXaviour

Nietzschean wrote:

by the time one would apply for schols neither of those misconceptions would be true... in fact the difficulty of schols is quite often overstated(not saying its easy by any stretch but...)

I agree with this. I was under the impression in SF that there was only 70 scholars total. I know a some people who really could have got it had they put in the work, but didnt even end up applying due to percieved difficulty and lack of information.

Deleted User wrote:

Emailed them earlier today, got this in response.

Ridiculous and typical that it took so long for them to come out.

Yeah, seems pretty damn typical. So we won't see them til monday... monday the bloody 6th! When do they start? The 13th-14th? Jaaaaysuz that's leaving it pretty late. God help anybody organising holidays....

europerson

Oh, I wish I had the dates. It really shouldn't take this long. As Seán Barrett is saying, what about the people, who need to return home on flights? They could book now and get them cheaper. This implies, according to him, that the Examinations Office is acting in conjunction with the airlines to raise the airlines' profits. They're all against the students, apparently. This has absolutely nothing to do with why I want the dates: I just like deadlines!

cuckoo

europerson wrote:

Oh, I wish I had the dates. It really shouldn't take this long. As Seán Barrett is saying, what about the people, who need to return home on flights? They could book now and get them cheaper. This implies, according to him, that the Examinations Office is acting in conjunction with the airlines to raise the airlines' profits. They're all against the students, apparently. This has absolutely nothing to do with why I want the dates: I just like deadlines!

Deadlines are important, i like to know them when i'm doing my colour coded study charts. (not that i'm doing schols, but for the summer exams and the like) The exams office really are working at trinity administration snail's pace on this one.

I've come across a handful of competent, helpful people in the various offices i'm played administration pinball with over the years, but the vast majority seem to subscribe to the "trinity would be a great place to work if it weren't for the students". Like most institutions, it sometimes feels like it exists and operates for the benefit of those who work in it, but then occasionally my cynicism is temporarily derailed by a helpful soul in the fees/accommadation/science faculty office.

Time Magazine

They're out!!

And they're lovely!

Tuesday March 14th - Economy of Ireland
Thursday March 16th - Intermediate Economics
Monday March 20th - Maths and Stats
Wednesday March 22nd - Management I [Marketing]
Thursday March 23rd - Management II [Accounting]
Wednesday March 29th - Law
Friday March 31st - BESS essay paper

JUST as I wanted - well spread out with the toughies and ones I need I's in spead out. I really could hardly have spread them better myself. The only dodgy thing is Accounting, which is my null subject, and a bit dodgy to pass on, which comes up the day after a very important subject.

I'f I get a I in the Essay paper and Marketing, and assuming I pass Accounting, all I need is two I's from Economy of Ireland, Intermediate Economics, Stats and Law.

There's a whole week of space in front of Law which I'll relish. I fully intend to track down a law student (or, say, my sister-in-law) which could well turn that into a I. That means all I need is ONE first from my three economics subjects.

Fingers crossed.

europerson

I was present when the BESS timetables were physically posted by a lovely lady from the SHS office.

Here's mine:

Tuesday, 14 March: Economy of Ireland, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Thursday, 16 March: Intermediate Economics, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Monday, 20 March: Mathematics and Statistics, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Monday, 27 March: West European Politics, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Tuesday, 28 March: Economics of Public Policy, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Thursday, 30 March: History of Political Thought, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Friday, 31 March: BESS Essay Paper, 0930-1230, Exam Hall

Not as nicely spaced out as Enda's, but I'm happy with the week off (20th to 27th). Enda, the other evening Prof. O'Hagan was saying it's very, very difficult to get a first on an Economics Department essay question, so make sure it's good!

Everything crossed!

cuckoo

What's the Bess essay paper? Do you get the titles in advance, or is it like the leaving cert history special topic?

europerson

cuckoo wrote:

What's the Bess essay paper? Do you get the titles in advance, or is it like the leaving cert history special topic?

Here's last year's. You don't get the titles in advance. There's a question for every SF course in BESS, and you answer one over the three hours.

ApeXaviour

Tuesday, 14 March: Physics Paper 1, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Wednesday, 15 March: Physics Paper 2, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Thursday, 16 March: 2S1 Advanced Calculus, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Monday, 20 March: 2S2 Fourier anal, diff. equations, lin. algebra 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Wednesday, 29 March: 2S5 Science Maths (Mechanics), 0930-1230, Exam Hall

Having never done schols before I think its mad how we seem to be all in the same places at the same times! Must be very few people alltogether doing it I suppose...

Stupid wanker science faculty office! (or maybe exam office) That last one there 2S5 they don't actually have me down for. On the timetable under "Junior Sophister" they have all the others but not that, they have a 2S3 down instead. When I did SF, 2S5 didnt exist. It has since replaced 2S3 for physics students and it's the one I've been studying. They better bloody well let me do that exam or I'll scream bloody fcuking murder! Dónal you'll be hearin from me

Nietzschean

Yeah crazy boy here wants to do the harder one...... just gimme yer student card n i'll go sit 2S3 :P

europerson

ApeXaviour wrote:

Tuesday, 14 March: Physics Paper 1, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Wednesday, 15 March: Physics Paper 2, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Thursday, 16 March: 2S1 Advanced Calculus, 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Monday, 20 March: 2S2 Fourier anal, diff. equations, lin. algebra 0930-1230, Exam Hall
Wednesday, 29 March: 2S5 Science Maths (Mechanics), 0930-1230, Exam Hall

You'll be in with myself and Angry Banana for your first, third and fourth so.

ApeXaviour

Nietzschean wrote:

Yeah crazy boy here wants to do the harder one...... just gimme yer student card n i'll go sit 2S3 :P

lol I failed that paper so badly before. Different strokes I suppose, I love mechanics and jesus it is one easy paper. If they let me do it I'm lookin at >90% easy. It's my banking paper, I don't think I've a chance of schols without it. Hence the almighty fuss I'm going to kick up if they even try not let me do it.

ApeXaviour

After a brief but scary talk with Dónal. Scary because he told me that I indeed did have to learn a subject from scratch that I'd be examined on in two weeks and achieve at least a 2.1 in it. None too pleased was I being bounced back and forth between the maths dept, science faculty office and exam office. But thankfully due to some nice real people in the last of the above, it's all good

That's mad that I'm in with yourself and ab europerson, I mean the exam hall is not that big. Must be sweet f.a. people tryin for schols...

europerson

ApeXaviour wrote:

That's mad that I'm in with yourself and ab europerson, I mean the exam hall is not that big. Must be sweet f.a. people tryin for schols...

Well, around sixty people in BESS did it last year. I really don't think it seems like that many this year, especially not in politics subjects: you could count the would-be Political Science Scholars on two hands. Economics has about about fifty to sixty, seeing as we've been having our preparatory classes in the Synge Theatre, which has a capacity of sixty-six. So, I suppose there must be a similar number, insofar as Economics is concerned, anyway.