muay thai brilliance

paddyc

How can people argue that thai aint the best stand up there is..... (apart from Billy Connloy)


http://man-magazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=923&Itemid=36

dlofnep

Never heard of him before now.. Don't follow muay thai though.. He's great.

MaxBax

hmm not as funky as the little chap but those kicks look like they'd break a building in half. OUCHIEZ.

j'aime le muay thai.

Millionaire

Thats a great clip! Inspiring to train harder!

What camp does he train out of?

There is no doubt, Muay Thai is best stand up art.
The training methods are miles ahead of anything else.
think MT training Vs Years of going up and down a floor
striking air. ( I know cause I was in MA about 2 years before
I ever seen a punch bag or focus mitt).

Bridgestone Man

HI,

I still hate southpaws. Excellent fighter, he is fighting on a show in UK in April or thereabouts, some UK lad in for a mauling. Johmod on same show also. That would be one to get over to.

PK.

Ridire_Dubh

How does Muay Thai compare with Brazilian Vale Tudo?

Dragan

Ridire_Dubh wrote:

What about Brazilian Vale Tudo?

i believe they are taking about just stand up dude.

john kavanagh

what is Brazilian Vale Tudo?

excellent clip - i'm sure people just LOVE holding pads for him:eek: ......never mind getting hit with one of those

Colm_OReilly

Dude was just mean!

mark.leonard

Very impressive alright, he really is a Living Legendary Man

Michael O Leary

Muay Thai does seem to be a very, very good art and one I have always respected. When I started Wing Tsun in 1993 it was a toss up between MT and WT and because of logistics I ended up doing the latter. I cannot comment too much as I have never done it but when my final, final college exams are over in May I would like to drop out either to the new venue in Tallaght or the Bridgestone gym to try it out.

So here is a question for those that know about it. What is it that makes it so good? Is it the art itself (tactics/strategy) or the training methods of implementing the art (fitness/sparring/conditioning)?

Constructive answers/suggestions/comments would be appreciated.

Regards,

Michael O'Leary
www.wingtsun-escrima.ie

MaxBax

i'm pretty sure it' the pipe music that makes it badass.

john kavanagh

imho it boils down to Training Methods - of course their technique is fantastic, but without effective training methods technique alone would not mean much

Timing, Motion and Progressive resistance (Energy) - right click, save as for video on what i mean by this Training Method (which is of course not exclusive to SBG, just i think its explained well here)

Millionaire

I am no MT expert. I am doing in, close to 1 year now (but I have many years kickboxing before that, so I picked it up easy).

What I like about it is the following...

MT gives you hard training on 4 major weapons, punch, elbow, knee, and kick, and standing clinch work. and the techniques are simple to learn.

for real self defence it is the perfect compliment. For example I seen 2 weeks ago someones head split open (about 14 stitches) with an elbow, in an MT match. and that sends home to me for example how effective and elbow is for self defence. the kicks are simple. for example I watched a Thai champ (something to do with Thai K1 he was) blasting right cross and right roundhouse over and over for an hour. Just one kick, into a heavy bag, and combos on the pad man full out. now comepare that to spending an hour doing many different techniques into the fresh air.

The training methods and conditioning is outstanding. and practical. working full out with a good pad man and him pushing you ( Thanks Mr Clint!!!) is an amazing training method. working hard rounds on rock hard bags is excellent for conditining. of course sit ups and running too!

So you have deadly weapons (knee , elbow) matched with hard hard training. you just got a combo things thats outstanding.

I read once an article on this Thai Master in the States Chai S something (he taught Dan Insoanto of JKD fame MT). he said that he had students with just 6 months thai training, beating black belts with years in other styles all over the place..

So mix that with some other skills, RBSD training, escapes from chokes, weapon disarms, ground work. and you got a lethal method.

Sometimes a punch is a punch is a punch, and the same for a kick, and trained Thai style... you miles ahead...

Darkwarrior

Millionaire wrote:

There is no doubt, Muay Thai is best stand up art.
.

I reckon this could be proven in a court of law!!!:D

Millionaire wrote:

( I know cause I was in MA about 2 years before
I ever seen a punch bag or focus mitt)
.

I understand exactly where you're coming from Millionaire. That's one of the reasons why i took up and subsequently abandoned a number of MA styles over the years. I just felt "Am I really learning how to defend myself or be a good fighter by kicking air??".

columok

Is that Dekker who gets knocked on his arse? Or is it just someone trying the exact same bowler!!!

Andrew_M

Its not Dekker, i though it was at first too, but its not. Its just someone with the same crap haircut:D

fianna.5u.com

Has he, or will he, fight Baukaw Por.Puramuk?

And int he experts opinions, who is better?

Peace

GalwayorBust

I don't follow it but his competition looked very lame.

Dragan

GalwayorBust wrote:

I don't follow it but his competition looked very lame.

So would you after getting kicked around like that.

Degsy

Living Lethal Little sod would be more appropriate.Does antybody know of Cizia Zyke?He's a french bloke who has written a number of books about his violenet adventuers around the world.Apparantly he was no mean hand at muay thai and kicked around a few of thier champions back in the 80's.

paddyc

pearse


have a wee look at this

http://man-magazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=907&Itemid=36


personally I'd have to go with Buakaw Pramuk as I think hes a fully rounded fighter that can use all his 8 weapons to the same effect... but in saying that Samkor can kick like a bull


Michael - thai is so easy cos no one ever made it hard there are no belts no forms or patterns just 8 weapons thrown over and over and over and over in the same manner till they got all pistons flying and very few stand up fighters can compete with its ferocity

thailand is one of the only countries never to be conquered in battle, something that they are extremely proud of, the attribute some of this to the fact that the fought simple but hard, and i suppose thats what thai is today in gyms in Ireland, simple but hard


paddy

Roper

paddyc wrote:

thai is so easy cos no one ever made it hard

Best comment ever.

I would also go with Paramuk, against most oposition. What I've seen of him has been perfect. Really well rounded and with a viscious right kick of his own.

Andrew_M

lads check out Yodsenklai Fairtex, he skooled JWP at the 1st WBC thai boxing show. I'm fairly sure he would beat Por.Pramuk too

My top 4 thai fighters at the moment(not all time) would be:

Yodsenklai
Por.Pramuk
Jomhod
Samkor

Ridire_Dubh

john kavanagh wrote:

what is Brazilian Vale Tudo?

Portugese for "anything goes."

columok

John has fought Vale Tudo rules before (and is the Irish BJJ badass)
but I think he's trying to imply that Brazilian Vale Tudo isnt a style rather its a rule set. A fighter could train ping pong for brazilian vale tudo competition. Mightn't help though.

So Muay Thai is often used within VT competition.

And therefore comparing one versus the other doesnt really work.