Euro Poker Classic qualifier on PPP

Fatboydim

Going well for a long time... Ollie and I were pretty much chip leaders when got to final table. Ollie went out in 8th however. Pushed UTG with pocket fours and ran into pocket 10s. After my bubble last week in same event finishing 3rd out of 88 this week I finished 6th out of 95. Had a good sized stack... raised with A 10 shortstack goes all in... Suspect he'll do so with any ace... He has A J I don't catch. I still have around 50k so enough. Especially when I then get KK - but you guessed it... pocket aces were out at the same time.

Too much to expect two big wins in one week I guess. Though it's infuriating to get so close twice in a row.

Gholimoli

unlucky Len ,was sure you were going to make it as you were looking good and there were couple of dunlys left in the game(specially the one to your right "lucky something" was his name and jesus he was brutal but very lucky.
i signed up for it by mistake and before i knew what it was i had a stack of about 15K.then i found out it was for the london gig.

Ollieboy

ul Len, I thought for a while that we would both take it.

I want to laydown does 44's, but felt it would get through, it nearly did, except for the SB waking up with pocket 10's.

Besides you, it was one of the weakest final tables I've seen on PP, the two players to your right had watch far to much telly and kept going all in on every hand that was bet against them, they were both playing like Ram.

The flush draw against my top pair, which took 50% of my stack when I was chip leader tilt me a bit and I was very tired, but will give this a go next week also, only made 2 mistakes and it cost me big time.

I still think I made the right move with the AJ suit against the utg all-in, even do gee was not happy with me. What did you think?

Gholimoli

Ollieboy wrote:

ul Len, I thought for a while that we would both take it.

I want to laydown does 44's, but felt it would get through, it nearly did, except for the SB waking up with pocket 10's.

Besides you, it was one of the weakest final tables I've seen on PP, the two players to your right had watch far to much telly and kept going all in on every hand that was bet against them, they were both playing like Ram.

The flush draw against my top pair, which took 50% of my stack when I was chip leader tilt me a bit and I was very tired, but will give this a go next week also, only made 2 mistakes and it cost me big time.

I still think I made the right move with the AJ suit against the utg all-in, even do gee was not happy with me. What did you think?

i dont think your AJ move was right to be honest with u olli.
some1 was all in and you didnt have a mde hand.
the side pot was empty so there was no real reason in you raising.if you man was kept in the pot and the hand was chekced down there would have been amuch better chance of him busting out.
also your raise was all in, and he was only going to call you if he had you beat.
the KQ hand was played bad as well.you gave him a free card to make his hand and then you refused to lay it down after he came over the top of you.
the 44 hand though man,it really hurt me to see after you busted me .
you must have known that if you get called you were deffo beat.specially the way you did from UTG.

Ollieboy

Gholimoli wrote:

i dont think your AJ move was right to be honest with u olli.
some1 was all in and you didnt have a mde hand.
the side pot was empty so there was no real reason in you raising.if you man was kept in the pot and the hand was chekced down there would have been amuch better chance of him busting out.
also your raise was all in, and he was only going to call you if he had you beat.
the KQ hand was played bad as well.you gave him a free card to make his hand and then you refused to lay it down after he came over the top of you.
the 44 hand though man,it really hurt me to see after you busted me .
you must have known that if you get called you were deffo beat.specially the way you did from UTG.

Hi Mate,

I aggree with you on the KQ hand, I just didnt put him on a flush and was trying to represent the flush myself, so it was a poor move and a bit unlucky, i did raise preflop and thought it was a poor call on his part with a5 suit. This player always pushing on each hand, ie always reraising, so i ignore the info he was sending me with that bet.

The 4's was a terrble play and one I usually never do and that was due to a bit of tilt at that stage and trying to hard to take the blinds, a simple raise would have been enough and a fold.

I dont agree on the AJ, the all-in was only 4k and the other player, only limp, so i knew I was ahead of him and I want to improve my chances of taking the 16k pot at this stage, so by pushing i force him out of the hand. I dont think he would have check the pot down either, as he was over aggressive all the time and I wouldn't have been able to call a bet on the flop as it work out, so i think the move was correct and gave me the best chance to win a nice pot. Also the player allin, appear to be on tilt, as he had loss all his chips in the last hand, but in general, i played the final table very poor after playing well for so long. It had been a while since I made a final table, so I'll blame that.

cheers

Gholimoli

Ollieboy wrote:

Hi Mate,

I aggree with you on the KQ hand, I just didnt put him on a flush and was trying to represent the flush myself, so it was a poor move and a bit unlucky, i did raise preflop and thought it was a poor call on his part with a5 suit. This player always pushing on each hand, ie always reraising, so i ignore the info he was sending me with that bet.

The 4's was a terrble play and one I usually never do and that was due to a bit of tilt at that stage and trying to hard to take the blinds, a simple raise would have been enough and a fold.

I dont agree on the AJ, the all-in was only 4k and the other player, only limp, so i knew I was ahead of him and I want to improve my chances of taking the 16k pot at this stage, so by pushing i force him out of the hand. I dont think he would have check the pot down either, as he was over aggressive all the time and I wouldn't have been able to call a bet on the flop as it work out, so i think the move was correct and gave me the best chance to win a nice pot. Also the player allin, appear to be on tilt, as he had loss all his chips in the last hand, but in general, i played the final table very poor after playing well for so long. It had been a while since I made a final table, so I'll blame that.

cheers

i just dont like you cuz you bust me and i wish i had called your over the top all in raise with my JJ.i know i had you beat .looking back at it i think you had something like 44-TT more than anything else .:D

Ollieboy

Gholimoli wrote:

i just dont like you cuz you bust me and i wish i had called your over the top all in raise with my JJ.i know i had you beat .looking back at it i think you had something like 44-TT more than anything else .:D

lol, I think I had QQ that time, I'm sure I had you beat or it might have been AK, not sure. But you should have called, a big laydown JJ.

I wouldn't have made the move unless I was sure I had you beat, different on the final table where pairs have a bigger value

Culchie

What was the buy-in to this satelitte?

Gholimoli

Culchie wrote:

What was the buy-in to this satelitte?

$54 rebuy

Gholimoli

Ollieboy wrote:

lol, I think I had QQ that time, I'm sure I had you beat or it might have been AK, not sure. But you should have called, a big laydown JJ.

I wouldn't have made the move unless I was sure I had you beat, different on the final table where pairs have a bigger value

i had about 25K at the time with blinds 400/800 .
you had 16K which could have crippled me.i was fairly certain i was ahead with JJ but there is too much chance of AK ,AQ and i really didnt want to race then.
your 55 call though sent me over the wall.

Fatboydim

Yeah there were some right nutters on it for sure... Shame as last weeks final table was much tougher. And half the time I don't think these yanks know what they're playing for.

Your move with the AJ was fine... It's the type of move you have to go for in qualifiers as the prizes are tickets. In an ordinary tourney I'd check it down... The danger was that the chip leader at the time would call... but in honesty he can only call with AK or better. And if you don't raise then he can creep in with any hand and get value because he knows it will be checked down.

Always lucky was the name of the player to my right... Brutal really doesn't do him justice. But as his name said he always did seem to get very lucky at the right time... He went out the next after me.

Oh well always next week.

Ollieboy

Gholimoli wrote:

i had about 25K at the time with blinds 400/800 .
you had 16K which could have crippled me.i was fairly certain i was ahead with JJ but there is too much chance of AK ,AQ and i really didnt want to race then.
your 55 call though sent me over the wall.

Yeh, but I knew you had AK or something, or guess you did and I think I had enough chips to cover you and leave me in an ok position.

Mate, you made enough reraise to force people of hands etc, thats the game.

The call was correct and I won the race, but I knew it was a race, these are what you need to do to win tourneys.

I'm sure you'll get me next time. The 44 was a very poor play and dont take that to be my normal play.