he should be closed down.

boxoid

how is the raven in cork still open, is it because he is so popular with minors and they don't know a good tattoo from a bad one.

saw some more of his "work" on some poor young fella... to say the boys arm was destroyed is an understatement. there is not even a chance of covering this disaster up. iv seen some OK work from him, but they seem to be on his buddies or people he knows. but for the unknown punters or kids he does, he doesnt give a f~#k what goes on. just slap it on and take the money.

how is this allowed.

Hellrazer

It goes on because there are no laws governing the opening and running of a Tattoo parlour.

I could open a tattoo parlour tomorrow even though Ive no experience,no hygiene training,could tattoo and pierce to my hearts content and no one could do anything about it.

Its a shame theres cowboys like that out there because one of these days Micheal Martin or MacDowall is going to go all out on the tattoo industry and what laws they will bring in will either kill or drive the industry totally underground.
At the minute its self regulating but at some point someones going to make a complaint about the whole industry and the law will be changed to the detriment of tattooist/piercers.

porn_star

I'm sick about hearing about this guy. He's crap and no matter who you tell they'll still go. I've had so many people ask me for a good recommendation for piercing and I always say don't go to him, but for some reason a lot of them do. Two girls I go to school with came up to me and told me they should of listened to me. One had her navel pierced,but a piece of dirt was lodged in the middle of it, presumeably from a dirty needle, either way her stomach swelled up and she was put on anti biotics.
He's as bad with his piercing skills as his tattooing ones I'm afraid.

irishcrazyhorse

I am not defending the man here,he has worked on me in the past(couple of piercings and tatts) and all have been fine!
But people are getting it wrong here,except for karen Russell in Midleton all the lads in Cork are having too many "bad" days!
The best "celtic/tribal" artist in Cork has ****ed up on nearly all the work he has done on me and some of the mistakes are gonna take a long time to fix,as piercers go,there is no-one up to the standard of snakebite,bodyshock for example(I do stand by that maurice is the nicest guy I have ever met in the industry and I respect him and his work etiquite) and as far as the other tatt artists in Cork go they are nothing special!

Brian in Raven has had off days but I for one was pierced/tattooed by him,jay,A.J and Maurice all before I turned 17 so I am sic of people saying he is ****,dirthy and doesnt follow the rules as nearly everyone ot there is doing it and will continue too.

larryone

Is he as bad as yerman in GSA?

boxoid

irishcrazyhorse wrote:

Brian in Raven has had off days but I for one was pierced/tattooed by him,jay,A.J and Maurice all before I turned 17 .

off days.... off days, and on one of his off days you get a tattoo for life..
this is exactly the s#it I'm on about...
and to you crazy... off days in a tattoo shop are acceptable.

i have got a lot of work done all over the world, and the only shop to reach good standard of hygiene and quality of work in cork is Tattoo Zoo and middleton...

Thephantomsmask

irishcrazyhorse wrote:

as piercers go,there is no-one up to the standard of snakebite,bodyshock for example(I do stand by that maurice is the nicest guy I have ever met in the industry and I respect him and his work etiquite)

Maurice has just opened a new studio in Tralee, definitely a nice guy who's straight up and honest. He did my nipples at 3.2 two weeks ago and did a great job.

porn_star

yeah, I heard he shut down from Killarney, cos business wasn't too good there. He did a lot of my piercings, used be a good friend too.

JoeKelly

porn_star wrote:

yeah, I heard he shut down from Killarney, cos business wasn't too good there. He did a lot of my piercings, used be a good friend too.

Yea he said the rent was ridiculously high, as far as being a nice guy i second that or third that whichever!! Hes done a few of mine aswell which have turned out free of any repercussions so im happy!
Iv heard that the fellow in raven is literally heavyhanded when it comes to tattooing, and from some of his work that iv seen id agree with the statement its rough to say the least, he obviously wasnt very good at colouring between the lines as a kid!!

boxoid

JoeKelly wrote:

Yea he said the rent was ridiculously high, as far as being a nice guy i second that or third that whichever!! Hes done a few of mine aswell which have turned out free of any repercussions so im happy!
Iv heard that the fellow in raven is literally heavyhanded when it comes to tattooing, and from some of his work that iv seen id agree with the statement its rough to say the least, he obviously wasnt very good at colouring between the lines as a kid!!

that's class... but at least in school the lines were there to colour in between.
now he is expected to do both... very worrying

Thephantomsmask

boxoid wrote:

that's class... but at least in school the lines were there to colour in between.
now he is expected to do both... very worrying

lol!:D

Necronomicon

I got a tattoo there last year, and I'm surprised to see all the comments here. I went on a recommendation. I found him to be absolutely grand. Perfectly hygenic, nice guy. I had the design before I went to him, except I was limited in the sizes I was able to print on my pc. He helped me find the size I thought was perfect. I was delighted with the way it turned out.

porn_star

just out of curiostiy, were you under 18 when you got tattooed, or was the person who reccommended him under 18?

boxoid

Necromomicon wrote:

I got a tattoo there last year, and I'm surprised to see all the comments here. I went on a recommendation. I found him to be absolutely grand. Perfectly hygenic, nice guy. I had the design before I went to him, except I was limited in the sizes I was able to print on my pc. He helped me find the size I thought was perfect. I was delighted with the way it turned out.

I'm delighted for you, at least that's one happy customer.
whats your tattoo of, tribal, celtic, portrait, classic/retro, one colour, shading, water-shading. Give us an idea what he is good at. love to see a picture of a good tattoo his done (never seen a good one of his).

you go on about hygiene... what equipment does he have, an autoclave, steam-sterilizer, ultra sonic, ultraviolet, sterilizing room(separate and closed off to where he does his tattooing)
me thinks, it just look clean and maybe he just had a wash and a shave.

and im a nice guy... but i cant tattoo...

boxoid

Necromomicon can you reply, or do we take it you haven't a clue about tattoo's and as far as your concerned a "nice guy" makes a good tattooist.

Necronomicon

Oops sorry, forgot I had posted, so many places to post on in boards. I don't have a picture on the pc at the moment, if you like I'll try to get one and I'll pm you.

edit

porn_star wrote:

just out of curiostiy, were you under 18 when you got tattooed, or was the person who reccommended him under 18?

Nope, I was 18 and the person who recommended him to me is in his mid-twenties.

boxoid

I REST MY CASE...
he should be closed down... ****ing useless, and he is making his money from people who don't know the difference between a good ink job or a bad ink job.

Blub2k4

boxoid wrote:

I REST MY CASE...
he should be closed down... ****ing useless, and he is making his money from people who don't know the difference between a good ink job or a bad ink job.

people get the tattoo they deserve.........unfortunately there is nothing you or I can do about people not knowing what a good tattoo is, the wearer is often happy in their ignorance.....leave them to it...they get what they deserve....

boxoid

Blub2k4 wrote:

people get the tattoo they deserve.........unfortunately there is nothing you or I can do about people not knowing what a good tattoo is, the wearer is often happy in their ignorance.....leave them to it...they get what they deserve....

so true... it just pisses me off. i suppose the more bad tattoos out there, makes the rest of us with ink look good.

Blub2k4

boxoid wrote:

so true... it just pisses me off. i suppose the more bad tattoos out there, makes the rest of us with ink look good.

Unfortunately it perpetuates the myth that tats are done in jail with a rusty guitar string and a tape recorder motor....

boxoid

Blub2k4 wrote:

Unfortunately it perpetuates the myth that tats are done in jail with a rusty guitar string and a tape recorder motor....

very well put...
and the brian in the raven centrally perpetuates that myth.
i think he might be better off hanging up the gun and becoming a butcher.

boxoid

just saw another example of his work.... could he be getting worse...

Necronomicon

boxoid wrote:

I REST MY CASE...
he should be closed down... ****ing useless, and he is making his money from people who don't know the difference between a good ink job or a bad ink job.

Well I assume that was addressed to me. Have you ever tried to take a picture of your own back??
I'm not sure if you're talking more about the stuff he actually draws or the way he does it, but one point I have to make is that my tattoo wasn't actually his work. I was on holidays a couple of years back, was passing a tattoo studio and looked through the catalogue. I saw this tattoo and loved it. But I was 17 and didn't feel like getting one while 1) Underage and 2) in a foreign country so (and I'm not proud of this!) I took a picture of the drawing and took it home with me.
I can't comment on the work he draws himself because I didn't really look, I just brought this with me. Can't complain about the way he did it, it came out exactly how it looked on the picture. Although to be honest, this thread does have me doubting if I'll be going back for my second.

porn_star

I think boxoid, is talking about both his drawing skills and tattooing. It all comes under one really. The guy is anything but an artist...or a hygienest...
But seriously, I reckon this thread is a waste. Unless it actually does stop people from going to him. He's never gonna get closed down unless we get some proper regulations over here. But people get what they pay for and what not.

amazingemmet

I reckon we should send that american girl to him as an apprentice twould be funny methinks. Also does anyone have any pics of this guys work i want to see how bad he is.

porn_star

I've seen a lot of it up close and have friends who've gotten work done by him.But I don't have any pics, I'm sure someone does though!

boxoid

look at this ****...... and this is one of the best ones iv see come out of that butcher shop.

amazingemmet

What ya on about thats a deadly tat! lol man if he done that to me there'd be kickings going on.

porn_star

I think that's one of the best ones I've seen come out of him aswell..maybe he's improving :rolleyes:

and emmet, kicking as in lol-ing, or kicking as in kicking?!
told you it might get confusing :cool:
lol

Will

Hmmm i feel sorry for the person thats on, im not that well educated on tattoos and what constitutes a good one...however what clearly sticks out is the fading, lack of syymetry and eh yeah thats basically it, that i can see. Anyone wanna point out more stuff about this tattoo?
did he do it freehand? suppose wel never know

porn_star

haha, funny story.
I'm in college on the computers and about 10 minutes after I posted that last post a girl next to me bent down and I could see the really bad tribal she had done on her back. Anyway I kinda guessed it was done by him, cos it was I it was just shocking. Anyways, not able to help myself I asked her about it and she said she got it done in Raven. Poor girl thought I was actually admiring it!!
Anyway, it was much worse then the one in the link. It wasn't even centred properly, one side of it went up higher then the other and it was blotchy and there was no nice straight points on it, just blobs of ink bascially.
thought it was quite amusing since i saw it straight after posting on here...
but obviously not humourous for her :rolleyes:

amazingemmet

Pornstar The good sort of kicking m'dear not the KIK sort. so it oculd be confusing i'll just keep it to msn then kik

porn_star

:rolleyes: *cough* pornstar has a name *cough*

amazingemmet

Yes and on this board its porn star its like a superhero name batman and superman don't use first names they use their superhero names and since the internet was invented by nerds we should follow on in this tradition.

Anyone got any pics of his bad work? Kinda scary if thats good for him.

Blub2k4

Wilburt wrote:

Hmmm i feel sorry for the person thats on, im not that well educated on tattoos and what constitutes a good one...however what clearly sticks out is the fading, lack of syymetry and eh yeah thats basically it, that i can see. Anyone wanna point out more stuff about this tattoo?
did he do it freehand? suppose wel never know

The fading would be the main problem with it, it looks like he cant get a consistent black to stay in the skin, thing is that he was able to do it for the outlines as they are quite dark still, in stark contrast to the fill which looks like a dark grey wash, normally and artist has to dilute an ink with water to get that shade.
It also looks like there are a few blowouts, which are basically where the ink is put in too deep and it seeps under the layers of skin and blurs the outlines.
You can see this on some of the points where they turn into round blobs instead of points, that's really about not knowing the basics, blowouts are a total no-no.
The only good thing about this tattoo is that he definitely hasn't overworked the skin and it doesn't look like it is badly scarred so it should be easy enough to turn into a good enough tattoo ( as good as standard non-descript crappy tribal can be) by another artist reworking it in the future, chances are though that whoever owns this is happy.
The linework is also pretty shakey in parts, but not that easy to make out with the photo quality and size.
It does look freehand too, he should be using a stencil and folding the paper in the middle to get it symettrical, it's not rocket science.

boxoid

just took this one this morning.... poor sod said he has it for about a year.

if this was done on me, i would do time for what i would do to Brian in the raven.

this is a disgrace...

(had to scale it down in size)

Will

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
id be quite angry alright if that was done to me

Ag marbh

A big fucking haha towards those two images. You have to admit it's very easy for the average consumer to get one of these with not enough proper education around about them and lack of awareness towards what a good tattoo artist is.

amazingemmet

Omg worst tattoo ever i've seen people do better jobs with indian ink, seriously.

porn_star

The worst thing is a lot of people that are getting tattooed by him are people who are underagers, just cos they can't get anybody else to do it. Other people just go in, not realizing that theres actually bad artists out there.
I talked to him about tattooing me when I was 15, cos I knew the guy I wanted to do it wouldn't. I knew absolutley nothing about tattoos then, or at least not too much, so me not being able to shut up ever,kinda kept talking and bombarded him with questions and such. After about ten minutes I realized there was no way he was touching me, bascially cause he wasn't happy answering any of my questions and seemed to take it as a personal insult that I was asking questions in the first place. Plus he said if he did it he was gonna make the design smaller, which there was no need at all to do, considering it wasn't a huge piece or anything.
Ah, so glad I wait now. Ended up getting it at 17, by the guy I wanted to do it and for 70 euro less, what he quoted me...all is good, blah, blah.

Blub2k4

boxoid wrote:

just took this one this morning.... poor sod said he has it for about a year.

if this was done on me, i would do time for what i would do to Brian in the raven.

this is a disgrace...

(had to scale it down in size)

Who are you?

This is a wind-up.

Are you a competing tattoo artist?


Answer the questions there boxoid, I've seen that tatoo before and I can tell everyone where unless you come clean pretty sharpish.

<edit> I've found the first one you posted on the site you found it on, if you had used a different site then I wouldn't have recognised the second one. What a Wanker!!

Blub2k4

Disregard This Thread, None Of This Work Is Done By Brian In Raven.
It appears that Boxoid has something against the studio, I can only think that he's some saddo trying to assassinate Raven's reputation here, done a pretty good job so far too.
Dirty bastard you are.
I reckon you own a nearby tattoo shop and he is taking the business, am I right? huh huh?

If he's not banned I reckon Boxoid wont show his head here again.

Will

:eek: Thats just a below the belt hit on Boxoid's part.
Obviously someone with a vendetta against the guy, its worked well

Blub2k4

Wilburt wrote:

:eek: Thats just a below the belt hit on Boxoid's part.
Obviously someone with a vendetta against the guy, its worked well

I'm gonna wait a little to see does he come back to defend himself.
That second one was so bad I knew I had seen it before, I went to look for it and found the first one.

Will

Have you reported it to the mods? Its a deliberate attempt at tarnishing someone's name. :mad: Guy should be banned

Blub2k4

I just did report it, thread will hopefully be binned shortly.

eth0_

Taking Blub2k4's word for it.

Thread locked.

Boxoid, if you can somehow prove that your photos aren't ripped off, I may reconsider my decision.