Irish Open Feeder

a-k-47

I thought some ppl take this seriously, yes its a rebuy, but come on ffs...im not posting this as a bb thread, just that i tink its the worst move ive seen since playing online...id add this clown

Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
MTT Table 2 7125249-8 Holdem No Limit 30/60
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Hand Start.
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 1 : cork has $1,560
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 2 : a-k-47 has $1,580
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 3 : alboland has $2,620
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 4 : pepsione has $5,010
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 5 : peekay has $1,900
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 6 : debear has $1,280
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 7 : TheDon77 has $2,120
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 8 : equinoxxx has $1,870
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 9 : wkieran has $2,100
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : equinoxxx is the dealer.
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : wkieran posted small blind.
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : cork posted big blind.
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Game [8] started with 9 players.
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 10 18:10:35] : Seat 2 : a-k-47 has 8d 8c
[Feb 10 18:10:41] : a-k-47 called 60 and raised 480
[Feb 10 18:10:41] : alboland folded.
[Feb 10 18:10:42] : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Level up in: 5 min. Break in: 45 min. Players : 18
[Feb 10 18:10:44] : pepsione folded.
[Feb 10 18:10:48] : peekay folded.
[Feb 10 18:11:00] : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Level up in: 5 min. Break in: 45 min. Players : 18
[Feb 10 18:11:01] : debear has 10 seconds to respond.
[Feb 10 18:11:08] : debear called 540 and raised 740 and is All-in
[Feb 10 18:11:09] : TheDon77 folded.
[Feb 10 18:11:09] : equinoxxx folded.
[Feb 10 18:11:10] : wkieran folded.
[Feb 10 18:11:11] : cork folded.
[Feb 10 18:11:12] : a-k-47 called 740
[Feb 10 18:11:13] : Showdown!
[Feb 10 18:11:13] : Seat 2 : a-k-47 has 8d 8c
[Feb 10 18:11:14] : Seat 2 : a-k-47 has 8d 8c
[Feb 10 18:11:14] : Seat 6 : debear has 3c 7h
[Feb 10 18:11:17] : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Level up in: 5 min. Break in: 44 min. Players : 18
[Feb 10 18:11:22] : Board cards [2h 2s 6h Th 4h]
[Feb 10 18:11:22] : Seat 6 : debear has 3c 7h (YEA 7 FUKIN 3 LOL)
[Feb 10 18:11:22] : debear has Flush T7642
[Feb 10 18:11:22] : Seat 2 : a-k-47 has 8d 8c
[Feb 10 18:11:22] : a-k-47 has Two Pair: 8s and 2s
[Feb 10 18:11:22] : debear wins 2,650 with Flush T7642
[Feb 10 18:11:27] : a-k-47 : what the *****
[Feb 10 18:11:30] : Hand is over.
[Feb 10 18:11:30] :
[Feb 10 18:11:30] : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Level up in: 5 min. Break in: 44 min. Players : 18
[Feb 10 18:11:30] : Current prize pool: $230
[Feb 10 18:11:30] : Current prize pool: $230

did that idiot actually tink a reraise would push me off lol

Iago

quite aside from the fact that the guy is an idiot what are you doing putting your tourney on the line with a 480 raise with 88 UTG in level 2? Even in a rebuy you're just throwing your chips away

Generally speaking you're either going to win 90 or lose your entire stack, the only hands that should be calling you there are at best 50-50 for you and at worst have you completely dominated.

ntlbell

seriously, you didn't even try and disguise the hand as a BB

the thread was created for a reason, please use it.

The C Kid

Cue Marq.

ntlbell

The C Kid wrote:

Cue Marq.

sorry i'm on TILT

The C Kid

ntlbell wrote:

seriously, you didn't even try and disguise the hand as a BB,the thread was created for a reason, please use it.

A decent effort but no match for Marq's putdowns, one of which would be most deserved in this case.

mewso

Some threads are starting to have a pattern. Someone posts something. Someone thinks it shouldn't have been posted here. A Marq fanboy questions whether Marq will issue a standard put down. Insta-10 post meaningless thread that I have just taken part in. I'm away for a pint.

ntlbell

The C Kid wrote:

A decent effort but no match for Marq's putdowns, one of which would be most deserved in this case.

Unlike marq, I was brought up not dragged up :eek:

a-k-47

yea i know its a bb!, i can raise whatever utg, i want a call either way. its called a gamble...should i have raised the good oul txt book x4 bb in this case iago simply because its the right thing to do?. anyway the size of the raises is not the case here, its just the re raise with that hand is why i posted, im sure other ppp players may want to take a note. bubbled i did at the end anyway!

Iago

ok so, well you continue blaming the fish for the situations you get yourself into and reading those txt books that advocate a x4 bb raise UTG with 88 at a full table in level 2 of a tournament and I'll keep my opinions to myself.

unlucky on the bubble.

azzeretti

I agree with Iago. This is quite obviously a bad beat but the manner in which you got yourself beaten should be called into question.
Not the best of play from UTG so early on in my opinion.

*Golly, did you get my PM?**

RoundTower

He played the hand fine and is moaning about a bad beat. I'm going to start a new thread about better use of the bad beat sticky.

a-k-47

being honest im not moaning about the bad beat its laughable its the re raise all in with 7,3o that i was posting about. was just showing yis that i bet VERY strong UTG and to get re raised with that was well, insulting LOL...and tx round tower , i agree this thread shudnt really be here, but i hope u understand why i posted it here. remember d name ull make money. gl im off boozin!

DeVore

Um am I missing something here? You big raise under the gun (screams of AJ or medium pair). He sticks you in with 73 in the rebuy period. You're own display of strength should convince you that since he must know this, he has a dominating hand to yours (TT-AA). He might think you drop because he's read you correctly for weakness. Instead you call where you quite possibly shouldnt (barely getting 2:1 for your 740? where you are quite likely to be 5:1 dog), and he outdraws you?

Is that about the sum of it?

Otherwise he could just be an idiot looking for action on later hands or to get lucky here and now during the rebuy period.

Um, its a mini adventure tbh.

DeV.

a-k-47

why wud u raise big utg with aj or mid pair, its a hand to call or min raise utg, depending on the level on the tourn etc.

He might think you drop because he's read you correctly for weakness

i dont think x9 bb shows weakness utg,

Instead you call where you quite possibly shouldnt

final stages in a tourn that would be the correct move yes.

any chance closing this thread.

azzeretti

a-k-47 wrote:

why wud u raise big utg with aj or mid pair, its a hand to call or min raise utg, depending on the level on the tourn etc.



i dont think x9 bb shows weakness utg,



final stages in a tourn that would be the correct move yes.

any chance closing this thread.

Have you just got back from the boozer?

a-k-47

no, going now, feckin pizza......cheeky

DeVore

Let me ask you, would you raise x9 BB utg with AA or KK?


Would you do it with AK?


So what do you think he thinks you have?

"why wud u raise big utg with aj or mid pair, its a hand to call or min raise utg, depending on the level on the tourn etc. "

Myabe thats what you think on reflection but in point of fact what you actually did was raise 9xbb with it. Um, hoist by your own petard I think!

You're perception of what you should and shouldnt do with that hand != what you ACTUALLY DID with it.

Is there a possibility that he nailed exactly what you had, played back at you and you couldnt drop an over played hand??

(I haven't exlcuded that possibility that he's a total m0ng, but its hard to find m0ng's that think 73 is a good hand, even on the internet.... so why do YOU think he did it?)

DeV.

MrPillowTalk

DeVore wrote:

Let me ask you, would you raise x9 BB utg with AA or KK?


Would you do it with AK?


So what do you think he thinks you have?

"why wud u raise big utg with aj or mid pair, its a hand to call or min raise utg, depending on the level on the tourn etc. "

Myabe thats what you think on reflection but in point of fact what you actually did was raise 9xbb with it. Um, hoist by your own petard I think!

You're perception of what you should and shouldnt do with that hand != what you ACTUALLY DID with it.

Is there a possibility that he nailed exactly what you had, played back at you and you couldnt drop an over played hand??

(I haven't exlcuded that possibility that he's a total m0ng, but its hard to find m0ng's that think 73 is a good hand, even on the internet.... so why do YOU think he did it?)

DeV.

lol, end of discussion

DeVore

I just can't shake the idea that somewhere on some forum is an identical hand history where a guy called debear is writing:
"so I massively reraise this guy cos I know he has a medium pair or AJ or something, cos like, he sure doesnt have a premium hand and I want to snap off his over bet but he just can't let it go!! I've 7,3 but you know, thats not important. Anyway, I make a 4-flush on the river. Man is he ever steaming!!"



I'm not raggin' on ya A-K (well not much anyway ) but the biggest improvements I've ever had in my game is when I've sat and really honestly thought about my game and why I got nailed. I've noticed good players do that and beat themselves up about any flaw, bad players blame the cards, their luck, the river, the muppet idiot who called them... anything but how their chips got put at risk so casually. I'm trying to be the former and not the latter myself....

DeV.

peeko

Thats a very good way to look at the game. And yet a very hard one. I think this comes with a lot of experience. Sometimes after a few beats it's hard to sit down and look at the game objectively. Being all tilty it's so easy to call peeps muppets, and blame them and the cards. But at the end of the day that approach isn't going to get you anywhere. The only assumption I try to make about the game is that I know very little and still have SO much to learn, no matter how good I'm playing at that moment.

Hard luck AK, better luck next time

a-k-47

ok ok ok i know its was poor play, its very rarely that i would raise mid pair like this, was out of character but in fairness whos gona fold after that bet in a 10$ rebuy lol.

Let me ask you, would you raise x9 BB utg with AA or KK?

depends on the table im at and how long im there really to see what kind of action the table is giving?. i dont think there is ONE way to play this hand utg, flat call and hope for another raise , min raise,4x, or just go all in. depends on the manner of the table if you ask me.

DeVore

True but 9xBB UTG wouldn't signal a premium hand. That in itself might make it an interesting way to play it but too often you'll find yourself on the next hand 30 seconds later. You can't afford to not make chips with those hands when Pok'ar gifts them to you.

DeV.