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People stealing things!

  • 10-02-2006 3:33pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭


    I was talking to a few people and the subject of theft came up. I mentioned how I couldn't understand it as why seemingly normal people stole things. General people in their 30s with good jobs stealling a cd are somethings similar. I was shocked to hear friends tell me they have done stuff similar. I would expect some people to mention childhood stuff but I was shocked as adults and recently.
    I was expecting people to say things like I never returned it or at least I really hated the person and I wanted revenge etc... No just theft. No fancy moral issue where by people avoided tax.

    I remember being surprised out how much theft happened in college but I always put that down to immature people but now I think that people are just like that.

    Have I somehow missed something? Do people really just steal things for kicks and want?


Comments

  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    *hi-jacks thread*

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    Maybe I do it from time to time for kicks really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Knackers tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    adrenaline rush. like wealthy bored housewives stealing toothbrushes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Spicy Lauren


    Never stole things in shops. I'm far too honest for that.
    I might have stolen a few hearts though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭MorningStar


    Zulu wrote:
    Knackers tbh.
    That's what I thought but check with your firends you might be surprised. Stealing from a pub seems to be perfectly acceptable by everybody but me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I stole stuff when I was teenager but thats about it. Even if I found money in the street I would hand it in, karma.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭Femelade


    i never steal , the guilt would be too much for me to handle.
    A girl i work with stole a €50 voucher for a clothes shop , i had in my work jacket, she borrowed mine one day and it was gone when i got it back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    That's what I thought but check with your firends you might be surprised. Stealing from a pub seems to be perfectly acceptable by everybody but me.
    ...oh well ...emmm ...ahhh. I may have pulled a pint for myself, in a late bar, after it was closed. ...but I was drunk, and I was prepared to pay, and I'd already lined their pockets, and they wouldn't serve me, and I did ask....


    ...no excuse, it's stealing, guilty as charged. I should apologise. Ah well there's a lesson here somewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Spicy Lauren


    Femmy wrote:
    i never steal , the guilt would be too much for me to handle.
    A girl i work with stole a €50 voucher for a clothes shop , i had in my work jacket, she borrowed mine one day and it was gone when i got it back.

    Yip. Thats the worst when someone you know robs you, but you have no proof whatshowever that it's them who did it. My entire original cd collection got stolen off me last summer. I'm still not over it. 100's of CDs man!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭Uthur


    I don't get any buzz from stealing stuff. There's nothing I need so badly
    that I'd nick it rather than pay. If I could swipe a million quid without
    any chance of being caught I'd think about it...maybe :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Peaadina


    Yip. Thats the worst when someone you know robs you, but you have no proof whatshowever that it's them who did it. My entire original cd collection got stolen off me last summer. I'm still not over it. 100's of CDs man!

    Thats grim! I had a load of cds pinched aswell, and I know who did it too.
    But I could never prove it. It will come back to her tenfold. I still get pissed off when I look for one of the ones that are gone.
    One of them was dear to me as my mother bought it in canada and it was a special version. Oh I am getting mad now at the cow! :mad:
    Apart from grapes as a child the old catholic guilt gets to me so I wouldnt nick anything!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Yip. Thats the worst when someone you know robs you, but you have no proof whatshowever that it's them who did it. My entire original cd collection got stolen off me last summer. I'm still not over it. 100's of CDs man!


    How the hell did you have your entire CD collection nicked? If you don't mind my asking. That's just mad!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭MorningStar


    Zulu wrote:
    ...oh well ...emmm ...ahhh. I may have pulled a pint for myself, in a late bar, after it was closed. ...but I was drunk, and I was prepared to pay, and I'd already lined their pockets, and they wouldn't serve me, and I did ask....


    ...no excuse, it's stealing, guilty as charged. I should apologise. Ah well there's a lesson here somewhere.

    Yeah I think people with high morals and punishment friendly change their tuen when you point out stealing is stealing no matter what. In a country obsessed with the belief of rip off ireland they can justify theft or as many think it "fair".

    That is ignoreing the other theft like tax avoidance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Once woke up the morning after being on the lash all night and discovered one of those fancy erdinger pint glasses in my hall....don't remember taking it. Only thing that springs to mind that i've stolen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Spicy Lauren


    eo980 wrote:
    How the hell did you have your entire CD collection nicked? If you don't mind my asking. That's just mad!!!

    Bit off topic, but basically I went out for a few minutes and left that guy (who was supposed to be a mate) in the house. The next day I realised the bookcase was gone. He was the only person in the flat between the moment I had the bookcase in my hands and the moment I realised it had gone missing. Yes obviously I did ask if he packed it in his rucksack by accident, but he said he was innocent. Since then, I hold a grudge and can't talk to him anymore. No way. It's like being raped, man!

    Anyway, not to worry. I wrote a song about it. I cant wait to play it in front of loads of people and dedicate the song to him. That's my own little revenge ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    People do seem to think fleecing pubs is ok, perhaps because they fleece us?
    I remember my mate going mental when another guy said he found a discarded wallet, probably pickpocketed as it was thrown in a bush, the finder nicked a €5 hmv voucher and handed the wallet into the cops, it had ID's and other cards & stuff. He justified the €5 for his time. On the same night he was told this the same guy who was going mental came back from the bar pleased to bits since the barman gave him €10 too much in change!

    In busy pubs with barmen ignoring me, busy serving busty blondes I have pulled my own pints, right in front of them, and then walked off. A free pint tastes lovely. I remember asking mates if you saw a case of booze worth €20 or a €20 note on the ground and could only take one, which would you take? many go for the booze, there is something about free booze...:v: :v:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    Hang on, when you say stealing a cd, are you talking about walking into hmv & taking a cd without paying for it, or taking a blank cd home from the office? I just had a picture in my head of the second one when reading your post for some reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭MorningStar


    skywalker wrote:
    Hang on, when you say stealing a cd, are you talking about walking into hmv & taking a cd without paying for it, or taking a blank cd home from the office? I just had a picture in my head of the second one when reading your post for some reason.
    I wasn't refering to shops but theft from work seems to be fine in most peoples' eyes too. I meant from other people including work colleages and "friends".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    Ahh ok. Taking a cd from work, rightly or wrongly I just dont equate with stealing. Taking things from other people is just a scummy thing to do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    I was in Toronto a few years ago when there was a big black out and flights were cancelled. I decided to buy a sandwich and drink as I was waiting on my flight. The guys operating the sandwich place were charging twice the price for everything just because they could take advantage of the situation. I decided not to pay at all and stole the food and drink. You may say that's wrong but I don't agree.
    But that's not the only time I have stolen. It doesn't bother me too much, it all evens out karma wise anyway I reckon. I think of myself as a bit of a selfish Robin Hood with commision charges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    eo980 wrote:
    How the hell did you have your entire CD collection nicked? If you don't mind my asking. That's just mad!!!

    I had a mate this happened to too. They just smashed in the back window of his gaf and took the lot (about 500 cds iirc?). Anyway the insurance covered it and on his first trip into town he went into hmv and bought about 100 albums in one go.

    I used to be like someone earlier on this thread and would feel pissed off to lose my collection but now I don't really care. If the lot got nicked I'd probably spend the insurance on something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Siogfinsceal


    five finger discounts are more common than you realise. Its the rush of it I mean it doesnt matter if you have the money its just taking it from a shop instead of paying for it. its not like stealing from a mate or a


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭MarinoMark


    five finger discounts are more common than you realise. Its the rush of it I mean it doesnt matter if you have the money its just taking it from a shop instead of paying for it. its not like stealing from a mate or a

    There is a website dedicated to the noble art of "five finger discount" as you put it...here http://www.genepool.addr.com/shoplift.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    Love the part that says magicians don't pay for anything. So because they are so good at misdirection they just steal everything they want. What a clown


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Yeah I'd be of the opinion that stealing form a pub, work or a large shop is well, not ok, but not not ok, if that makes sense and I have done so in the past, but I personally think stealing from another person is ****ing dispicible and would never do it, and I would intervene if I knew someone had stolen something from someone else. I know some one is going to point out that stealing from a pub is like stealing from the owner but its just not, I can't justify my double standards so don't ask me too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Hi,

    This thread has inspired me to quit my job. I plan to do interviews for as long as it takes to get a job in the Civil Service. I will work hard and diligently for as long as it takes to get transferred into the office of the Revenue Commissioners.

    Then I will steal.....

    I will pocket staples, biros, sellotape, notebooks, the screws in the doorframes, the little sachets of sugar in the tea-room and on bright days the light bulbs from their fittings. I will pilfer the blutack from behind calendars and the hoover-bags from the press where the cleaning lady keeps the nilfisk 900. I will cause the 13amp fuses from all of the plugs to vanish and remove all of the mouse-balls from the mouse(s).

    All small stuff you notice, I will keep this up for decades, by retirement age I aim to have several rented garages filled as well as utilising all of my home storage.

    - At my retirement party I will prearrange a diversion and while they all look away I will steal the cake before they can eat it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭0utshined


    Yeah I think people with high morals and punishment friendly change their tuen when you point out stealing is stealing no matter what. In a country obsessed with the belief of rip off ireland they can justify theft or as many think it "fair".

    That is ignoreing the other theft like tax avoidance

    Evasion. Avoidance is perfectly legal.

    I'm surprised you've found so many of your friends do it. I don't think I'll ask my friends in case I get a similar answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭giggles


    I was shocked to see a girl steal a coat from PENNEY's .... how bad woud things have to be to rob from there where everything is cheap as chips1


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  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    I stole yore ma.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Have an old penchant for stealing posters from places and road signs/traffic cones. But im a student so its allowed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    PORNAPSTER wrote:
    I stole yore ma.

    :D Roundy like... :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 521 ✭✭✭EOA_Mushy


    Raiser wrote:
    Hi,

    This thread has inspired me to quit my job. I plan to do interviews for as long as it takes to get a job in the Civil Service. I will work hard and diligently for as long as it takes to get transferred into the office of the Revenue Commissioners.

    Then I will steal.....

    I will pocket staples, biros, sellotape, notebooks, the screws in the doorframes, the little sachets of sugar in the tea-room and on bright days the light bulbs from their fittings. I will pilfer the blutack from behind calendars and the hoover-bags from the press where the cleaning lady keeps the nilfisk 900. I will cause the 13amp fuses from all of the plugs to vanish and remove all of the mouse-balls from the mouse(s).

    All small stuff you notice, I will keep this up for decades, by retirement age I aim to have several rented garages filled as well as utilising all of my home storage.

    - At my retirement party I will prearrange a diversion and while they all look away I will steal the cake before they can eat it.

    *Cheers you on*

    Excelent idea dude! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭MarinoMark


    Raiser wrote:
    Hi,

    This thread has inspired me to quit my job. I plan to do interviews for as long as it takes to get a job in the Civil Service. I will work hard and diligently for as long as it takes to get transferred into the office of the Revenue Commissioners.

    Then I will steal.....

    I will pocket staples, biros, sellotape, notebooks, the screws in the doorframes, the little sachets of sugar in the tea-room and on bright days the light bulbs from their fittings. I will pilfer the blutack from behind calendars and the hoover-bags from the press where the cleaning lady keeps the nilfisk 900. I will cause the 13amp fuses from all of the plugs to vanish and remove all of the mouse-balls from the mouse(s).

    All small stuff you notice, I will keep this up for decades, by retirement age I aim to have several rented garages filled as well as utilising all of my home storage.

    - At my retirement party I will prearrange a diversion and while they all look away I will steal the cake before they can eat it.



    LOL:D Classic reply...touche !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I stole a shot glass from some club a few weeks ago :( In my defence, I was pretty drunk! It was a souvenir though, cos it was my friend's birthday, and his first shot.

    No regrets!

    Because I wasn't caught ¬_¬

    I don't make a habit out of it though :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Raiser wrote:
    Hi,

    This thread has inspired me to quit my job. I plan to do interviews for as long as it takes to get a job in the Civil Service. I will work hard and diligently for as long as it takes to get transferred into the office of the Revenue Commissioners.

    Then I will steal.....

    I will pocket staples, biros, sellotape, notebooks, the screws in the doorframes, the little sachets of sugar in the tea-room and on bright days the light bulbs from their fittings. I will pilfer the blutack from behind calendars and the hoover-bags from the press where the cleaning lady keeps the nilfisk 900. I will cause the 13amp fuses from all of the plugs to vanish and remove all of the mouse-balls from the mouse(s).

    All small stuff you notice, I will keep this up for decades, by retirement age I aim to have several rented garages filled as well as utilising all of my home storage.

    - At my retirement party I will prearrange a diversion and while they all look away I will steal the cake before they can eat it.


    Just got confirmation - am starting my new job on Monday 2 weeks. I'll be starting as a clerk, general office work and a small bit of admin. A good foundation nonetheless.......


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    ColHol wrote:
    Have an old penchant for stealing posters from places and road signs/traffic cones. But im a student so its allowed

    Stole a bus stop back in my student days, along with the obvious traffic cones and flashing lights that they have near road works.

    We did have a bit of difficulty getting the bus stop into the house though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    If you leave your pimped ride outside my gaf for more than 2 & 1/2 minutes then you need not feel surprised when you come back to find it 'misplaced'. I do it for the rush tbh, but mostly for the love of the game :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭Cosine


    I've stolen a few pint glasses from pubs.

    I dont see anything wrong in taking promotional glasses as they are basically written off the minute the company gives them to the pub.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Whilst in college:

    Cardboard cut outs of Packie Bonner and Roy Keane.
    Pint glasses and shot glasses from pubs.
    Toilet rolls from the college (enough to do us the semester :D )
    The menu for the college cafe (don't know how we got that one, it was nailed to the wall!)
    Traffic cones, road signs etc.
    Shopping trolly.

    The usual student stuff. Those were the days. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭MorningStar


    skywalker wrote:
    Ahh ok. Taking a cd from work, rightly or wrongly I just dont equate with stealing. Taking things from other people is just a scummy thing to do.
    Ì think that is the problem people don't see the act of stealing as wrong but something they can justify if they feel wronged. If you feel that way you can't complain about other theft as these theives can justify stealing from you becasue you have it and they don't. The only difference they justify it for a different reason it is just wrong.

    I am not surprised people do that here especially businesses or places of work as they view of authority is so low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Funniest one was a friend of mine. they routinely had exchange students in the house. One of them (french kid) was stealing from the house day to day. People were noticing stuff going missing but never copped it might be him nicking it.

    Kid went out for a 2 day trip and the mother made up the room only to find he had hidden everything he had stolen in the bed. They reckon he was sleeping with the stuff.

    Kid got deported as soon as he came back from the trip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Hobbes wrote:
    Funniest one was a friend of mine. they routinely had exchange students in the house. One of them (french kid) was stealing from the house day to day. People were noticing stuff going missing but never copped it might be him nicking it.

    Kid went out for a 2 day trip and the mother made up the room only to find he had hidden everything he had stolen in the bed. They reckon he was sleeping with the stuff.

    Kid got deported as soon as he came back from the trip.
    Snap!
    Mate of mine had a French kid who was a complete tosser and used to boast about his huge gaf in France with three storeys and a basement games room.

    Stuff started going missing from the house, so one day the Dad went into the French kid's room, and saw a crystal ornament sitting in one of his bags. Searched the rest of his room and his bags and found tonnes of their stuff.

    Needless to say he lost the rag, threw the kid and his stuff out on the street and told the school to come and collect him, cos he had nowhere to stay that night :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭MorningStar


    seamus wrote:

    Needless to say he lost the rag, threw the kid and his stuff out on the street and told the school to come and collect him, cos he had nowhere to stay that night :D

    I know a guy who disliked the student staying with the family so he made it look like like he stole stuff. The father also kicked the inocent student out. My friend had been expecting a hot french girl but the mother had put down for boys only. In the end the parents never took anybody else as a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Cosine wrote:
    I've stolen a few pint glasses from pubs.

    I dont see anything wrong in taking promotional glasses as they are basically written off the minute the company gives them to the pub.
    haven't done it myself, but i do have about 10 glasses from my local. end of the night, outside smoking and waiting for everyone else to finish up before heading back to my place for cans. there is always someone bringing a half full pint glass with them.

    was fitting out a tile shop a few years back. all the orders for the displays were sent down twice, so me and the boss loaded up the van with the extras and i got to tile my hallway, porch and bathroom free of charge. i've justified it because i didn't get country money, meal allowance or entertainment allowance on that job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭bealbocht


    Ì think that is the problem people don't see the act of stealing as wrong but something they can justify if they feel wronged. If you feel that way you can't complain about other theft as these theives can justify stealing from you becasue you have it and they don't. The only difference they justify it for a different reason it is just wrong.

    I am not surprised people do that here especially businesses or places of work as they view of authority is so low.

    and some people who would find the idea of stealing a mobile phone or a bike awful, seem to have no problem buying them from "some guy" who is selling them at a knock down price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    bealbocht wrote:
    and some people who would find the idea of stealing a mobile phone or a bike awful, seem to have no problem buying them from "some guy" who is selling them at a knock down price
    Sure that's all on the east coast, isn't it?
    #edit/ it's all bolted down overe here...


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