help on overclocking

awhir

could anyone give me on any advice on overlocking my amd x2 3800+.i just bought a zalman pure copper cooler.and got a guide here http://www.overclock.net/overclock.php?file=articles/overclocking-guide.htm

so any adive pls.

Khannie

You have the overclocking guide.....what else (in particular) are you looking for?

If you're nervous about actually applying the flower, then don't be. Just use arctic silver, spread it thinner than thinly spread butter (2 grains of rice size should be enough to cover a socket 939 chip) with a flat edged knife (I use my swiss army knife). Plop the cooler on, and bob's yer uncle. Let it "settle" for a few days before overclocking. Arctic silvers performance improves after a few days AFAIK.

Edit: You don't want that guide. You want an Athlon64 specific guide as the memory controller is on-chip. There's a link to one over on overclocking.ie 's forums.

jor el

Can I ask why? You have a top of the range processor, so you won't see much of an improvement in performance by overclocking it. It's like buying a McLaren F1 and wanting to put NOS in it. Overclocking wrong can also damage your system, and will almost certainly reduce the life span.

advice on overlocking

Yeah, don't do it. Unless you really, really, need to get that extra speed, don't overclock.

Sorry to be not much help, but I've always wondered what the fascination is with overclocking. Back when I had a P90 and clocked it at 133MHz, that was over a 30% increase in performance straight away. With the pipelining, extra cache, DDR memory and so on now, the raw CPU clock speed doesn't make that much of a difference I think.

SouperComputer

you won't see much of an improvement in performance by overclocking it.

That depends entirely on what you are doing with the computer. Video processing is one thing that a good overclock will help. I have a P4 1.8 @ 2.6 to testify. Certain games respond well to CPU speed increases as well as CAD and 3D rendering packages.

With the pipelining, extra cache, DDR memory and so on now, the raw CPU clock speed doesn't make that much of a difference I think.

I dont understand this bit, are you trying to say that changes in memory technology have negated the need for number crunching?

DDR is bloody ancient for a start! Some P1's had at least 512Kb of L2 cache, in some cases 1Mb.

For sure windows wont boot any quicker, nor will apps launch any faster, but that's not why people overclock anyway!

riptide

Souper... i will add one thing to it though... some apps do boot faster... some that are very processor hungry on start up. I have an MSI TV/Radio card. For some reason unknown to me it takes a long time to initialize... I'm talking 60 seconds!!!!:eek: at full 100% processor usage... don't ask me why... The chip that i had at the time was a mid range Pentium. I ramped the FSB by 20% and then tried the radio.... it took just over the 50 seconds. (I started the radio up a few times first before I took recorded times to take out any delays caused by harddrive activity out of the equation).
So the conclusion was the drop in time needed to start up was directly proportional to the overclock factor... ie 10%.

But as Souper says... MOST apps when starting up really depend on the HDD speed and the HDD health.

riptide

I double posted.... Boards... sort out the web server!!

riptide

SouperComputer wrote:

DDR is bloody ancient for a start! Some P1's had at least 512Kb of L2 cache, in some cases 1Mb.

http://compreviews.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.overclockercafe.com/Articles/DDR%5Fvs%5FDDR2/index.htm
DDR2 certainly is the way forward... but at the moment... it may not be worth the extra cash....