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New gaming rig
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09-02-2006 4:03pm#1
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unklerosco wrote:<snip>
@CPU - Agreed
@ Motherboard - If the OP is willing to slot in another GFX card at a later date he should save some cash and not get an SLI board. Use the saved cash to get a top-of-the-range SLI board when (s)he is prepared to fork out for two GFX cards. Into the bargain, few games are able to take full advantage of SLI currently with it being a somewhat new technology..and as with technology, it will be outdated/cheaper soon enough so it'd be a waste spending so much on such trivial improvements as SLI over a 512MB GF7800 imo
@HDD, yeah, the extra cache will make significant difference over the 8mb one. The 10000 rpm drives would be better again but they are a bit overpriced at the minute
I'm not suggesting the cache will have such a massive effect like the CPU cache sizes do, after all this is a mechanical device and not low-level electronics we're talking about but it'll make a significant performance difference for a couple of euro extra.
@SoundCard - i was thinking about an XFI one, but again it'd be a savage waste if most of the compy's life was spent at lan partys where the full features of such a vastly superior card couldnt be explorded through a plain old set of headphones
I also wasnt suggesting the motherboard be changed for one with different onboard sound, but it would help to get one with better onboard sound if the OP wasnt interested in an extra soundcard for the above reason
As for the ASUS A8n-sli deluxe, the chipset fan on two of mine broke and left a nice burnt out nvidia chip for me, so i dont think they are the most reliable board...
The PSU is also a matter of choice, big names would be Thermaltake, Enermax or Antec, but i was only pointing out to the OP that more expensive isnt necessarily the way to go
As for Ram, a fast CCL wouldnt do any harm. If you're not trying to futureproof then skip the slowish 2gb for faster 1gb of ram
Cases are preference, and he was looking for opinions...my opinion is..i dun like it :P0 -
RoyalMarineComm wrote:with a budget of 2500 maybe make a few adjustments...
harddrive - http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=122429&cks=PRL ( 170.00 ) - think its a little small for a gaming rig..
motherboard - http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=316732&cks=PRL ( 224.00 ) - a great choice imo
Just a few notes on the recommendation 0 -
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RoyalMarineComm wrote:TouchingVirus wrote:Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyalMarineComm
with a budget of 2500 maybe make a few adjustments...
harddrive - http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=122429&cks=PRL ( 170.00 ) - think its a little small for a gaming rig..
as for the hard drive, might be a bit small, but in time he could always buy another or the larger one for 360 euro...
170 gigs is a lot to have for starting off.
might be smaller but the performance is un-rivaled.
Performance is superb, but its only a 74GB drive, 10 DVD games and a few programs and voila - no space
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RM05* wrote:the fx cpu looks great but is there any point I mean look at the price
The same could be said for alot of the things you have, i mean when in the near future will you peak 2GB of ram... or if you get a 512mb gfx card when will you peak that?
I'd go with the opteron ones like unkle mentioned0 -
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Motherboard wise, the Asus A8N-SLI Premium is passively cooled, and has every feature anyone would ever want. The MSI above also looks good, and has 2 x16 ports which will really be for future graphics cards, OR sound cards/physics card.
Not getting an SLI board, even if the second port is never used for SLI would be stupid with that budget, as SLI boards usually have the most extra features such as firewire/sata/better bios. Also resale value will be higher, AND it offers flexibility. Shaving €20-40 off the price to go for a non SLI board isn't worth it.
The Athlon 64x2 4400+ is where its at right now price/performance wise. It's 2 3700+ processors, and games are starting to take advantage of dual core. As people have said, getting an FX-57 would be pointless, the extra cost is NOT worth the little extra performance. In fact, the extra cost should go on an X1900XT as that WILL make a difference and almost outperforms two 7800GTX 256 in SLI (someone google to check that).
Get a seperate sound card, don't get a built in sound blaster, if you can't afford it in the budget now, make do with onboard for now, and do it properly later.
Monitors are what you spend your time looking at, and are well worth getting one that you are comfortable with, a 20.1" monitor might be more suited, and almost half the price of the 24" (even though the 24" are lovely).
The opty 144/146 prices are actually going up, in short supply, and not dual core. If you have any care for the future of your €2500 machine, GET A DUAL CORE CHIP.
2GB is becoming the standard config now for high end machines, its also not that much more expensive.
Hard drive wise, the WD Caviar 400gb gives very good performance and isn't at the insane prices of the raptor or 500gb drives.
Don't skimp on the keyboard/mouse either, as similar to the monitor, you'll be using them alot, try to make sure they're both USB based, as they'll last into future upgrades.0 -
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TouchingVirus wrote:RoyalMarineComm wrote:
Performance is superb, but its only a 74GB drive, 10 DVD games and a few programs and voila - no space
might only be a 74gb drive, but for starting out on a gaming rig i find its essential. then add another harddrive later on when more funds are available...
maybe the processor is a bit extreme at cost... the overclocked opteron 144 looks savage when done right. and saves a bundle.
and as astrofool said, dont scrimp on the mouse/keyboard or monitor.
probably the most wise thing would go all out on the mouse say..
the logitech mx518 usb.
as for keyboards, just go with what your comfortable either a gaming board or a standard layout.
the mouse is whats important... my first mouse was an rf optical...
had to buy new batteries every 4 days when gaming.. it sucked...
dont go with optical mouse's unless you got re-chargable batteries handy.0 -
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not much opinion available for it, read any of the mountain of reviews out there.
Pros:
Can be sli'd in future
single slot design
Cons:
Better available now at higher price
So if your budget can go higher, go higher, if it can't, stick It'll run anything thrown at it high res. Just remember to match it to the monitors output, a 1600x1200 monitor might need some eye candy turned off with that card, that the next card up might handle without problem.
If you get a mouse, get the latest/greatest, so either a Logitech G5 or Copperhead. The MX518 is virtually identical to the G5, but the sensor isn't as good. Either way, you'll get used to whatever you get, and proclaim it the best ever (everyone does, I talked to one guy try to argue the 518 was better than the G5 because the rubber had a different texture).
With the hard drive, it depends on your usage, if you know u'll use less than 74 gig, then get a raptor, if you're going to use more (have lots of music, movies and games on the machine), then get a 400gig drive.0 -
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RoyalMarineComm wrote:so did you decide on what your going to do?
and what your gonna buy?
raise your budget to get the latest and greatest or go with what you can afford now and maybe throw bit in here and there over the next year or so.
I think I will go with everything I hav there except for the cpu Im gonna go for the athlon 64x2 4400+, it seems like the 1 to get. As for the ram and hard drive etc. I will leave them for the moment and in the future update them
Thanks for all the great help guys, much appreciated 0
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