Longer Hours - Less Aggro

HelterSkelter

From http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13504166,00.html

Violent crime appears to have fallen since the relaxation of liquor licensing laws in England and Wales.

The Home Office said figures show serious violent crime dropped by 21% during the final three months of last year, compared to 2004.

Many police forces reported a drop in the number of alcohol-related arrests over Christmas.

There had been fears the new laws allowing pubs to stay open later would create more anti-social behaviour.

Pubs and clubs were given the option to apply for 24-hour licenses under new legislation - but many opted to just extend their opening hours on weekends.

The staggered closing times are believed to be reducing some flashpoints.

There had been calls for license-holders to pay more towards policing town centres that suffer binge-drinking problems.

In the last year, officers were given the power to issue on-the-spot £80 fines to bar staff caught serving drunken customers.

tbh

Its like what chairman Mao said when asked about the impact of the French Revolution - it's too early to tell yet. Wait till the summer and if the figures are down then, I'll start to belive it.

py2006

The only reason there is alot of fighting and crime on the streets is because all the scumbags pour out of the pubs/clubs at the same time!

People are lashing the drink back before final orders and bailing out onto the streets! Some people order themselves 3-4 drinks when the lights flash and knock them back before they are told to leave!

With longer hours people are coming and going at different times!

Fighting Irish

HelterSkelter wrote:

There had been calls for license-holders to pay more towards policing town centres that suffer binge-drinking problems.

:rolleyes: how about we just fine the people who are binge drinking that makes more sense, the license holders aren't forcing anyone to drink

rubadub

Fighting Irish wrote:

:rolleyes: how about we just fine the people who are binge drinking that makes more sense, the license holders aren't forcing anyone to drink

Damn right, thats like asking people who's fancy cars attract theives to pay for policing of them.

Or newsagents to pay for lung transplant operations for smokers.

Boggle

Its like what chairman Mao said when asked about the impact of the French Revolution - it's too early to tell yet. Wait till the summer and if the figures are down then, I'll start to belive it.

Those 2 yokes in front of your head are for watchin... try usin them next time you come out of a pub at closin time. Notice all the drunken fools crowded around pissed off at having to go home? Guess what happens next...

toString

3 months is not long enough to see the effects of longer hours. Having lived in the UK for a couple of years, its my opinion that fights at weekend that did occur were more violent. It wasnt uncommon to see blood on the main street of the city I was in on a Sunday morning.

fischerspooner

it just wont happen here, I think the people in the Dail are too conservative to ever allow us to have this luxury. We can go on about the nanny state etc. but what's the point it'll never change, there are probably loads of boring, young, soon-to-be-politicion types on this website who will say it's fine the way it is etc. etc. Well it doesn't suit all of us, I should be able to have a beer whenever I see fit. This subject really gets on my nerves, I don't see why the rest of europe should be allowed go out whenever they want but not us, it's F**KING RIDICULOUS JESUS AHHHHHHHHH.

constitutionus

notice the way this was kept on the hush hush in the media today? bare MINIMUM reporting of it because the nanny state brigade actually want to lowere the hours we have:rolleyes: the last thing they want is 24 hour pubs in this country could that could lead to people being treated like adults or something

when you compare this to the 800% increase in speeding violations thats been everywhere to day ya have to ask questions

we live in the 21st century with a good proportion of the population working late hours because theyre dealing with america or hong kong but god forgive they can get a pint after work with their mates in a bar at 2 or 3 am:rolleyes:

fischerspooner

we could have the government and publicans on their knees begging us to drink late if we just took a stand on this and boycotted bars and pubs for a week or two. I would gladly do it but as I said there are too many people out there who are happy with the laws the way they are and wouldn't bother. Striking on pubs would also bring down the prices dramatically.

Zebra3

The government should simply pass a law giving responsibilty for licencing laws to local councils.

Dublin is a major European city and can't be expected to use the same closing time as a small rural village with a population of 100.

constitutionus

Zebra3 wrote:

The government should simply pass a law giving responsibilty for licencing laws to local councils.

Dublin is a major European city and can't be expected to use the same closing time as a small rural village with a population of 100.

ah but that would make sense and not involve spending millions on an enviromental impact study so they could shovel your tax money at their mates and as such will never happen:D