LUAS SOS..... Well um no actually

Undercoverguy

So your standing at the LUAS stop early one spring morning on your way to work and calmly minding your own business. The station is near a intersection and traffic is casually passing while passengers wait for the next LUAS. The out of the corner of your eye you notice a large lorry driving past through the intersection. As if watching a train wreck about to occur you see the tip of the lorry clip the overhead LUAS electricity cables carrying 50,000 volts.
Sparks Flying....
A Loud Zap is Audible...
People Start Running....
Women Start Screaming...

Suddenly the Cable Snaps and falls to the ground. You watch it horror as it swings onto bonnet of a car passing in the opposite direction. The driver quickly slams on the breaks and then quickly realising a LIVE Electrical cable has fallen he quickly curles up and the seat of his car powerless to do anything and trying to avoid all conductive objects in his car.

You quickly snap back to reality and realising the overhead line needs to be shut down pronto you quickly run to the SOS Station installed at every LUAS stop..... BUT WAIT!!!!!

They've been removed. (City Centre Anyway, Rest Disconnected)

So electricity stays on, sparks keep flying and man in car dies... END OF! (Story 100% False Obviously)

Am i the only one who thinks that removing these things are a major safty issue. Sure the above story is completely made up in my head as it was written but smaller or larger life threatening scenarios can and have happened in the past on tram systems around Europe. I realise Children/Skangers/Drunk Adults and SOS Buttons don't go together but the SOS Stations have been removed completely. Christ, Even a sticker with an emergency number for connex would have been better than noting. Before someone points out 999.... Remember we live in Ireland and no DIRECT line is up between 999 and Connex, despite what were told.

Gone West

the man in the car wouldnt die, or feel anything in fact.
the wires are high enough. (if they werent they would have been knocked down long ago)
the SOS boxes were too prone to abuse.

billy the squid

If a double decker bus can go under them then I am sure lorries can too. I could be wrong but aren't the cables the same height throughout the luas network.

toffeapple

FuzzyLogic wrote:

the man in the car wouldnt die, or feel anything in fact.
the wires are high enough. (if they werent they would have been knocked down long ago)
the SOS boxes were too prone to abuse.

Seen as how your named after the debut album of the greatest band of our age.....you speak the truth...even if it is a fu#king stupid thread

Sparky

im pretty sure there is some sort of trip devise in the nearest transformer, if a cable snaps, there is no circuit, so the devise should trip, also if it falls on the ground, its a current leak to earth without any resistance so a simular devise to an RCD would trip also.

BuffyBot

Undercoverguy wrote:

So your standing at the LUAS stop early one spring morning on your way to work and calmly minding your own business. The station is near a intersection and traffic is casually passing while passengers wait for the next LUAS. The out of the corner of your eye you notice a large lorry driving past through the intersection. As if watching a train wreck about to occur you see the tip of the lorry clip the overhead LUAS electricity cables carrying 50,000 volts.
Sparks Flying....
A Loud Zap is Audible...
People Start Running....
Women Start Screaming...

Suddenly the Cable Snaps and falls to the ground. You watch it horror as it swings onto bonnet of a car passing in the opposite direction. The driver quickly slams on the breaks and then quickly realising a LIVE Electrical cable has fallen he quickly curles up and the seat of his car powerless to do anything and trying to avoid all conductive objects in his car.

You quickly snap back to reality and realising the overhead line needs to be shut down pronto you quickly run to the SOS Station installed at every LUAS stop..... BUT WAIT!!!!!

They've been removed. (City Centre Anyway, Rest Disconnected)

So electricity stays on, sparks keep flying and man in car dies... END OF! (Story 100% False Obviously)

Am i the only one who thinks that removing these things are a major safty issue. Sure the above story is completely made up in my head as it was written but smaller or larger life threatening scenarios can and have happened in the past on tram systems around Europe. I realise Children/Skangers/Drunk Adults and SOS Buttons don't go together but the SOS Stations have been removed completely. Christ, Even a sticker with an emergency number for connex would have been better than noting. Before someone points out 999.... Remember we live in Ireland and no DIRECT line is up between 999 and Connex, despite what were told.

*rips up script he had been pimping to Hollywood agents*

THIS WAS MY TITANIC!!!!!!!!! YOU'VE RUINED MY CHANCES NOW! OMG! I WAS GOING TO CALL IT "TERROR ON TALLAGHT TRAM"

Blue Peter

Seen as how your named after the debut album of the greatest band of our age

Or possibly after the other Fuzzy Logic

FL is a problem-solving control system methodology that lends itself to implementation in systems ranging from simple, small, embedded micro-controllers to large, networked, multi-channel PC or workstation-based data acquisition and control systems. It can be implemented in hardware, software, or a combination of both. FL provides a simple way to arrive at a definite conclusion based upon vague, ambiguous, imprecise, noisy, or missing input information. FL's approach to control problems mimics how a person would make decisions, only much faster.

Calibos

Safest place to be in a thunder and lightning storm is in a car assuming the storm isn't a hurricane or accompanied by a tornado. So even if the luas cable didn't trip a switch, you would be quite safe in the car. Nothing to do with rubber tyres insulating the car either. Its to do with the car body being a Faraday cage in effect. Look here: http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_pls/vehicle_strike.html

Gator

Hmmm..a little too much "final destination" watching me thinks

Gone West

Blue Peter wrote:

Or possibly after the other Fuzzy Logic

IIRC I've been using fuzzylogic since before the SFA album came out.
anyways...

tba

egads they copied YOU!

rainbow kirby

Faraday cage was the first thing that came to mind here... as long as he wasn't touching metal in the car he'd be ok.

djmarkus

I may be mistaken but im 70% sure a faraday cage is only effective with static electricity, like a lightning hit, current electricity(what normal electricity is) would electrify all of the cage and if you touch the inside of the cage you would get electricuted.

stevenmu

No, a faraday cage will work with electric current. Unfortunatly a car is not a genuine faraday cage (if it was you couldn't use a mobile phone inside one) and you can still be electrocuted while in one.

Umiq88

theres got to be an earth leakage and other saftey things on it so if a cable snaps and earths it will trip so quick you wont get a shock

scenario 2 the driver has a epilectic fit the train is out of control(as far as out of control trains can go with rails and all) and goes hurtling towards and old lady who is crossing the tracks wheres the sos button???

Smurfpiss

scenario 3. it all blows up.
or ya get hit and despite the slow speed you have that weird blood disorder and you die.
scenario 4 they do a speed thing with a bomb going off under a certain speed.
point is, anything can happen. and you can only prepare for so much.
in all said scenarios there will be somebody with a mobile phone.
the guy getting electrocuted in his car had me in stitches! not very likely...