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nanites and nanobites

  • 03-02-2006 4:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭


    Okay this could be long winded and very wrong but i'm going to put my theory's out there.
    If any of you out there have read Michael Critchon's book prey you'll be all familiar with the idea of nanites and nanobites, for everyone else they are like microscopic robots and they work in the same way swarms work,as they go around as one. I'm surprised i didn't cop this on sooner after seeing the episode where ecko stares down the cloud of black. I'm pretty sure if you watch that episode you'll hear the sounds of photos being taken in the swarm and flashes of light. In the book, the u.s government are developing nanites for use in war basically to spy on enemies. A swarm of nanites escapes and begin to kill the people but they also take photos of them and towards the end of the book they start to imitate the people in the book. They use the images to make themselves look like the people so they become clones of the people. The reason this happens is because they are programmed to imitate the natural swarms and swarms act as one to scare off threats to their habitats.
    Its actually a problem they have programming them. But if you look a couple of threads back someone posted a link to that piece of script that was supposedly leaked. It says that jack gets attacked and his attacker is actually him. This is really similar to the book i read.

    I'll move on to nanobites, these are basically identical to nanites but nanobites are developed to make use of there natural surroundings and act like they are the surroundings i.e imitate the sounds and texture of the surroundings so as not to be detected. They are way more intelligent than nanites and even have the ability to manipulate their surroundings to give themselves matter. For e.g the ones that are apparently being developed in the u.s can pick up small pieces of dirt so that when they camoflage in with the surroundings so that if someone touches them they feel like what they look like i.e a branch or whatever.

    I think that the cloud we saw is a swarm of nanites and that explains the appearance of polar bears,horses and jack's father. I think some government agency developed these and put them on the island to either imitate surroundings for spying. I have no idea about the numbers but i think i have a good idea what the hatch is all about and its not far removed from what i've read on this forum. If you want to hear it let me know and i'll post it but if you want me to shut up i'll gladly do that aswell.
    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭smiles


    requiem1 wrote:
    I'm surprised i didn't cop this on sooner after seeing the episode where ecko stares down the cloud of black. I'm pretty sure if you watch that episode you'll hear the sounds of photos being taken in the swarm and flashes of light.
    :D
    They're not taking photographs... if you rewatch as pause it, they're showing flashes from Eko's life.

    http://www.zlew.net/thoughts/?p=89


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭sprinkles


    Interesting theory. Sounds a bit strange though, saying that I haven't read the micheal Critchon book so I can't comment on its scientific soundings. However it would exlpain alot.

    Post your theory on the hatch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    smiles wrote:
    They're not taking photographs... if you rewatch as pause it, they're showing flashes from Eko's life.

    http://www.zlew.net/thoughts/?p=89
    Just played it back,Sounds like a room full of accountants doing taxes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭OFDM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭requiem1


    didn't mean to do that it just happened i posted on the other thread as i said i'm pretty new to this and sorry if i make mistakes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭requiem1


    sorry actually had no idea the nanites theory had been around for a while just thought i'd post it. As for my theory about the hatch once again the same applies if someone else posted it fair enough and if its wrong or disproved i don't mind either.
    I came across this in college and crossed referenced with a couple of my lecturers just to make sure the theory is concrete. But basically i was studying super computers and the idea of processors of high frequencies releasing large amounts of electromagnetism. When you make a supercomputer it is basically comprised of generally over 600 hundred processors in parallel.This displays so much electromagnetism that if you have any electircal devices or even watches on you and you are in the presence of the supercomputer while its running generally the devices get messed up. I talked to one of my lecturers about this and he told me that in order to stop this occuring to people working in the presence of these that they originally housed them in large cases made of different alloys. But people started to feel sick around them and get headaches and nausia and this was due to the fact that the alloys became basically big massive magnets and attracted any metals that passed near them. We all know that when jack stood next to the wall in the hatch his key on his necklace was attracted to the wall. Another really interesting thing my lecturer told me was that the really oldschool original computers used to have reset codes that started up a process after the task had been completed but the only thing that annoys me about this is that if theres a computer under the hatch it will more than likely be a modern one and that kinda contradicts that last piece of info but i thought i'd let you ponder it. So in summary i'm almost in agreement with the satelite theory previously posted cause i found out aut the 108 minutes thing around the same time as i found out about the computer and i though between the nanites the satelite and the supercomputer it would all go together quite nicely. Feel free to critcise cause as you'll see by my postings i'm new to the boards thing and mightn't have heard as much as you guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭sprinkles


    I think it's possibly the most "complete" theory to date. Food for thought indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    Tip: Dont watch Red Dwarf and Lost in the same night.


    kdjac


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    The nanite theory is dismissed here by Javier Grillo-Marxuach, Writer, Supervising Producer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭requiem1


    yeah thats cool someone already told me in a different thread that was taken down but i'd say don't always believe what you read cause they've dismissed alot of ideas and if they keep going the way they're going they'll have noway to finish it off so what they dismiss may well be true. I've read people dismissing the maya theory because mel gibson's apocoliptica is coming out but i'd say its one of the strongest theories out there. The one really cool thing i heard the other day was my friend got to see test screenings for the last episode(2x11) and he said they showed him three different episodes all with the same basic idea but all three lead off into different things, he won't tell me what but it looks like they're looking to see how people react and are writing the script accordingly. (Oh my friends american and he went back for x-mas and his mother has something to do with the series but the whole family are all very hush hush about the whole thing which sucks for us but its kinda understandable considering shes earning a living from it). but thanks for the spot anyway:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭doh.ie


    requiem1 wrote:
    The one really cool thing i heard the other day was my friend got to see test screenings for the last episode(2x11) and he said they showed him three different episodes all with the same basic idea but all three lead off into different things

    I seriously doubt there were three different endings shown in a screener, for several reasons. First up, this was the lame-o Jack episode - its actual ending was him asking Ana Lucia how they'd go about training an army. Unless they had several different versions of *that* scene... maybe, but I'd be curious as to what the other potentials were.

    I also doubt there were three endings because it's not possible to write/produce/plan next episode with so many potential tangents depending on a test screening. It is likely your friend saw a test of the episode which had some final scenes missing audio or polished graphics (like say, Eko meeting the monster), but I don't think three endings are depending on test audiences so close to airdate.
    requiem1 wrote:
    he won't tell me what but it looks like they're looking to see how people react and are writing the script accordingly.

    They write so far in advance and have plotted each episode months back - this can't be how they're doing it. Yes, for pilot episodes with months of tweaking before the September premiere, there is time to toy with the plot/recast/change endings, but not during the broadcast year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 791 ✭✭✭fightin irish


    requiem1 wrote:
    sorry actually had no idea the nanites theory had been around for a while just thought i'd post it. As for my theory about the hatch once again the same applies if someone else posted it fair enough and if its wrong or disproved i don't mind either.
    I came across this in college and crossed referenced with a couple of my lecturers just to make sure the theory is concrete. But basically i was studying super computers and the idea of processors of high frequencies releasing large amounts of electromagnetism. When you make a supercomputer it is basically comprised of generally over 600 hundred processors in parallel.This displays so much electromagnetism that if you have any electircal devices or even watches on you and you are in the presence of the supercomputer while its running generally the devices get messed up. I talked to one of my lecturers about this and he told me that in order to stop this occuring to people working in the presence of these that they originally housed them in large cases made of different alloys. But people started to feel sick around them and get headaches and nausia and this was due to the fact that the alloys became basically big massive magnets and attracted any metals that passed near them. We all know that when jack stood next to the wall in the hatch his key on his necklace was attracted to the wall. Another really interesting thing my lecturer told me was that the really oldschool original computers used to have reset codes that started up a process after the task had been completed but the only thing that annoys me about this is that if theres a computer under the hatch it will more than likely be a modern one and that kinda contradicts that last piece of info but i thought i'd let you ponder it. So in summary i'm almost in agreement with the satelite theory previously posted cause i found out aut the 108 minutes thing around the same time as i found out about the computer and i though between the nanites the satelite and the supercomputer it would all go together quite nicely. Feel free to critcise cause as you'll see by my postings i'm new to the boards thing and mightn't have heard as much as you guys.

    Kinda like that idea tbh.


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