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Bus Atha Cliath, A Violent Journey

  • 03-02-2006 2:46am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭


    Was talking to a mate of mine in the pub last night and he was telling me about his new job and the commute he takes everyday.

    He then told me that one morning he was getting off and there was a woman with a child at the bottom of the stairs (in the way of everyone ) so it was hard to get by.

    He was about the fourth person to step around her and his bag grazed (and I cant stress this enough GRAZED) the childs head.

    The woman went nuts and started slapping my friend in the face( I know, I laughed too) my friend, being a passive and shy person apoligised and quickly left the bus.

    1stQ - What would you have done.

    2ndQ - What would you have done if it was a man.


    /edit

    I chose not to put this in as to see what peoples responses where,

    The lady in question was a non-national, one of our earliest ones.

    I wonder will the attitudes change?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭el rabitos


    i'd have promptly gave the glowing new mother a punch in the eye and spit in her other one, as i walked off the bus with a beaming smile on my face


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    1stA:
    I'd fúckin deck her and steal her shopping.

    2ndA: I think a man would have more class than using violence as a first resort and would probably understand that some things are accidents and would accept an apology without making a scene.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Devon


    Definitely sounds like one of those "would have had to have been there" scenarios. Can't judge what I would have done based on the scant detail provided.

    On the slapping: It is possible to restrain someone, even in a confined space, without unloading fist loads of punches to the face.

    Should have told the driver what happened and had him call the police. You have a ton of witnesses there who would have seen the indicent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    he should have fell to the ground screaming

    "AH MY TONSILS HAVE EXPLODED!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    1stA - Let Hulkmania run wild

    2ndA - He wouldnt have slapped me if it was a man


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  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Gator wrote:
    1stQ - What would you have done.

    2ndQ - What would you have done if it was a man.
    1) I would have told her to fúck off! And say "You think that was bad? What do you think of this?" - And belt the child in the head with the bag.

    2) I would have kicked the living shíte out of him if it was a man, although I would probably laugh if a man ever slapped me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭gaf1983


    Just before Christmas '04 I was flying home from Paris and fairly late for the flight, was among last people on, and in my rush when I reached up to the overhead department to put away one of my bags, my backpack, containing a very heavy 2-pint glass form Oktoberfest, swung round and CLOCKED some guy on the forehead. He squared up to me, which in fairness he was fairly entitled to do, even though it was an accident, so I just apologised and nothing came of it. Had we been on a bus rather than a plane he mightn't have backed down so readily.

    To answer your question I suppose tell her to grow up. Why not sue? God knows we don't get enough personal injuries cases in the Irish courts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭mickymg2003


    I'd just laugh in that situation..Then call the guards. Sounds like a complete bitch but then again i wasn't there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    PORNAPSTER wrote:
    1) I would have told her to fúck off! And say "You think that was bad? What do you think of this?" - And belt the child in the head with the bag.
    Legend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Gator wrote:
    1stQ - What would you have done.
    I'd have laughed at her, told her it's her own ****ing fault for sitting in a stairwell and then to stfu before I get angry.
    2ndQ - What would you have done if it was a man.
    Well a man probably wouldn't 'slap you in the face' the way some women think they have the right to
    so it probably wouldn't have got to such a level. But if a man(?) 'slapped me in the face' I'd probably give him a shove then finally a few digs until I got thrown off the bus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    PORNAPSTER wrote:
    1) I would have told her to fúck off! And say "You think that was bad? What do you think of this?" - And belt the child in the head with the bag.

    That really made me laugh. :D

    Agree with the posters who said a guy probably wouldnt have over reacted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    emm... theoretically...

    1stQ - Probably call her names, eg.: skank, tramp, junkie, knacker, etc., then leave

    2ndQ - Hit him back!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭joe_chicken


    I would laugh at her... laughing at angry people only makes them angrier and therefore more funny...

    If she got that angry though, there must of been another reason for it.
    So if she didnt actually hurt me, i'd just try to forget about it and think that she'll feel bad about it when she cools down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,562 ✭✭✭connundrum


    1st - I woulda calmly got off the bus, then I would've pushed the bus over onto it's side. "How're you gonna get home now ya fat trampskank?". Then I would have disappeared into the night.. or maybe not, depending on the AM/PM situation. :v:

    2nd - Repeat 1st, except I would've stamped on his foot before I pushed the bus over - rendering him unable to escape the overturned bus. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 Blue Peter


    I would have said "excuse me, can I get past please?" to the woman with child, smiled, and made my way by her.

    Are people so remote from each other that they can't use basic manners to resolve what should be a complete non-situation?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    Gator wrote:
    one morning he was getting off and there was a woman with a child at the bottom of the stairs (in the way of everyone ) so it was hard to get by.

    He was about the fourth person to step around her and his bag grazed (and I cant stress this enough GRAZED) the childs head.
    ... one morning a woman got on the bus with her child. None of the apathetic wasters on the bus stood up to give her a seat because they were all too hung over and had to get a few beers into them before another productive day robbing people's mobile phones and ipods. The stink of cannabis smoke from upstairs was enough to keep her on the bottom deck, but there was nowhere even to stand except the bottom of the stairs where one person after another barged into her, 'excuse me' being way too much of an effort. One thug almost knocked her child off his feet with his bag, and continued to shove his way past without even an apology...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    all you could do is laugh at her and tell her to **** off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,639 ✭✭✭Iago


    1. I'd of wondered why some of the posters in this thread hadn't given up their seat to a woman with a young child in the first place so that she didn't have to stand at the bottom of the stairwell

    2. Would become very irrelvant if there were a modicum of decency left in Irish people anymore

    I despair, I really do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    this is why i hate people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭IceHawk


    Why give her a seat? She isn't inherantly more deserving of one than anybody else on the bus, just because she has a child with her. The question wasn't about whether or not she should have been standing anyway, it was about how you would react to her slapping you in the face.

    I'd probably just laugh it off, but if it was serious I'd report it to the bus driver and get her thrown off. Let her walk if she can't use a bus politely


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    1 - I would have called Chuck Norris

    2 - Followed by MR. T


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭joe_chicken


    Blue Peter wrote:
    I would have said "excuse me, can I get past please?" to the woman with child, smiled, and made my way by her.

    Are people so remote from each other that they can't use basic manners to resolve what should be a complete non-situation?

    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Tobias Greeshman


    Yes Chuck would introduce a wielding round-house to solve the situation. lol
    1. I would of shouted abuse at her, maybe said her baby was ugly, that'd definitely make me feel a lot better.
    2. I probably would of shouted abuse at him, or if needed be introdude my knuckles with his face. He is carrying a baby so ya can't exactly kick the s**t out of him really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭joe_chicken


    Iago wrote:
    1. I'd of wondered why some of the posters in this thread hadn't given up their seat to a woman with a young child in the first place so that she didn't have to stand at the bottom of the stairwell

    2. Would become very irrelvant if there were a modicum of decency left in Irish people anymore

    I despair, I really do

    hahaha.... cuchulainn would have come and made them all get up?

    Old Ireland's dead and gone my good friend and it has been for a while

    Bad manners is no excuse for violence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Binomate


    l'd have apologised to the child. I'd then have the bus driver stop the bus and demand an apology from the slag in question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Gurgle wrote:
    ... one morning a woman got on the bus with her child. None of the apathetic wasters on the bus stood up to give her a seat because they were all too hung over and had to get a few beers into them before another productive day robbing people's mobile phones and ipods. The stink of cannabis smoke from upstairs was enough to keep her on the bottom deck, but there was nowhere even to stand except the bottom of the stairs where one person after another barged into her, 'excuse me' being way too much of an effort. One thug almost knocked her child off his feet with his bag, and continued to shove his way past without even an apology...

    Ah, let me hazard a guess - the Number 13 bus?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭AngryBadger


    Either the woman in question is a total knacker. or she was under a ridiculous amoutn of stress for whatever reason that day, and your' friend unluckily just happened to be the brunt of it. unacceptable, but what can you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    I would have asked to get by, instead of barging my way through.

    John


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    IceHawk wrote:
    Why give her a seat? She isn't inherantly more deserving of one than anybody else on the bus, just because she has a child with her.
    Here we can link up with the peak oil and nuclear power threads.
    Think how much power could be generated from Chivalry, consideration and manners spinning in their graves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Yeah I'd have punched her in the mouth, I'd never hit a woman first, but if any one starts a fight it deosn't matter what age or gender they are they should expect to be hit back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    I would have undressed and made sweet sweet love to her. After some Kernel loving, she would realise that violence and anger are never the answer, and she would have left the bus happy and content with the world. A believer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭AngryBadger


    Kernel wrote:
    I would have undressed and made sweet sweet love to her. After some Kernel loving, she would realise that violence and anger are never the answer, and she would have left the bus happy and content with the world. A believer.

    lmao this brother is laying down some phat truth :D but how would the other people on the bus have felt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    lmao this brother is laying down some phat truth :D but how would the other people on the bus have felt?

    Hell they could join in, no problem. There's enough love for everyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Dooom


    gaf1983 wrote:
    Jcontaining a very heavy 2-pint glass form Oktoberfest, swung round and CLOCKED some guy on the forehead

    LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    el rabitos wrote:
    i'd have promptly gave the glowing new mother a punch in the eye and spit in her other one, as i walked off the bus with a beaming smile on my face


    No you would'nt


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Sounds like your typical welfare whore. She's probably in the same class as those 4x4 buggy wielding welfare scum that just push their buggies straight out in front of a car without even looking expecting you to stop and then getting all worked up if the child is so much as looked at. Hypocrasy at the highest.

    She shouldn't have been standing there in the first place, what did she expect. I wouldn't hit a woman but she would have have been on the receiving end of some serious advice if that were me she touched and she would be the one with the red face when I was through!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,639 ✭✭✭Iago


    jester77 wrote:
    Sounds like your typical welfare whore. She's probably in the same class as those 4x4 buggy wielding welfare scum that just push their buggies straight out in front of a car without even looking expecting you to stop and then getting all worked up if the child is so much as looked at. Hypocrasy at the highest.

    What do you base this observation on? The fact that we have one side of the story from someone who, lets be honest, is hardly going to start a story to one of his mates with the line "yeah, so I whacked this child in the face with my bag, and the mother actually had the cheek to hit me" the fact is that he MAY have grazed the child, and he MAY have hit the child a lot harder than he thinks/admitted to.

    Or is it maybe based on the fact that she is getting public transport so therefore she must be in the same class as the buggy wielding welfare scum that you seem to have such a hatred of? I can tell you this much, if anybody hit my son as they walked past and didn't have the decency to apologise they would get a lot more than a couple of slaps in the face.

    Your comments make you out to be a bigot and an ignoramus, which puts you in a lower class than buggy wielding welfare benfit receivers.
    She shouldn't have been standing there in the first place, what did she expect.

    You're right she shouldn't have been, but seen as nobody wants to get up and let her and the child sit down she didn't have much choice now did she? Would you recommend that she walk to her destination instead?

    I wouldn't hit a woman but she would have have been on the receiving end of some serious advice if that were me she touched and she would be the one with the red face when I was through!

    Well you wouldn't hit a woman, maybe there is some small spark of decency in you after all...maybe.


    By the way it's Hypocrisy not Hypocrasy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭no leaf clover


    Iago wrote:
    I can tell you this much, if anybody hit my son as they walked past and didn't have the decency to apologise they would get a lot more than a couple of slaps in the face.....

    You're right she shouldn't have been, but seen as nobody wants to get up and let her and the child sit down she didn't have much choice now did she? Would you recommend that she walk to her destination instead?




    Well you wouldn't hit a woman, maybe there is some small spark of decency in you after all...maybe.



    O most new buses anyway there is a space for buggies, i was brought up fairly "old fashionadly" (i dont care about spelling) and would have (and have done) gotten up for the woman, but A: the guy in question didnt have a seat to give up so thats irrelevant, and as i said there is a space for buggies and it should have been there even if she wasnt sitting.

    And it was also said the guy apolagised perfusively for his ACCIDENT, and there fore she had no call for hitting him, the woman had either high stress levels at the time or has a short fuse and a bad temper, the problem with people today is that everything is about them, every ting has to be perfect, and parents are either way too protective over their children or dont give a damn. When i was a goss i was burned with a cigarette in a public place by a stranger by accident, my dad didnt hop on him and beat him, either did my mam, they ACCEPTED it was an accident and let it slide. thats my 2cents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    I would have punched her in the ovarie(s) and then yelled ''bring it own biatchhh''!! Then started throwing shapes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    1. feigned being hurt worse than i was and shout "assault assault, youve all seen it ! im the subject of racist abuse, im being oppressed, im being oppressed" and shamed her off the bus

    2. big fat nothing, because a bloke would NEVER put the kid there in the first place being blessed with the intelligence not to block stairwells, doors, escalators.....:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭toffeapple


    1. It wouldnt have happened in the first place because i would have told her to move..and she would of

    2. he wouldnt get a chance to raise his hand.

    but people are different and i understand your mates position...he should of smacked the kid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Smurfpiss


    1. sneeze on her.

    2. sneezer on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Kernel wrote:
    I would have undressed and made sweet sweet love to her. After some Kernel loving, she would realise that violence and anger are never the answer, and she would have left the bus happy and content with the world. A believer.

    same answer for question 2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    BlitzKrieg wrote:
    same answer for question 2?

    No unless he was an exceptionally good looking man, like, me.

    On a side note, tonight on the way back from the pub, I was accosted by young chavs. I hadn't got time to make love to their girlfriends, so I ended up beating a couple of them, being hit by a breeze block and trampled on the head. Much more painful on my skull than it would have been on my willy with the love option.

    Ah well, next time I go out I will have to wear my velcro tracksuit that I can easily rip in half and show my muscles in the moonlight. Anyway, gotta sign off coz my skull hurts. Ouch! Make love not war people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    it hurts to be cool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    tba wrote:
    it hurts to be cool

    Yepp, it hurts even more to be mouthy! :)

    EDIT: Maybe it was my REO Speedwagon T-Shirt..... hmmm.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭jaggeh


    Iago wrote:
    By the way it's Hypocrisy not Hypocrasy


    If you are going to correct someone on spelling you better damn well make sure that you have run a spell checker over your own words

    its Benefit not benfit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭fischerspooner


    I bet she was Nigerian. From my experience they are the rudest women I've ever met. And dole scroungers, I never see female black immigrants working in Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭toffeapple


    I bet she was Nigerian. From my experience they are the rudest women I've ever met. And dole scroungers, I never see female black immigrants working in Dublin.
    I work with 2 nigerian women..their accounts..and good ones aswell


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭fischerspooner


    thank you toffeeapple you've changed my views


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