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Tough decision in double chance last night

  • 01-02-2006 6:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭


    I'd like your thoughts on the following hand which saw me bow out of the double chance in the Fitz last night. Blinds were 100/200, I had approx 3000 chips. I have only just been moved to this table and saw a dozen hands or so and therefore have no reads on anyone, although the table did seem reasonably loose.

    I was dealt pocket tens in the Big blind, there were two limpers in early position. MP (6000 chips approx) raises to 500, SB folds.What do I do now?
    Surely calling is not an option is it allows the limpers to get in cheaply, not giving my tens much hope.
    After some thought, I raised to 1500 (half my stack). Limpers fold, MP calls reluctantly. Flop comes K Rag Rag - two of which are diamonds. I go all in for the remainder of mine, he reluctantly calls with Q10 of diamonds. Unfortunately he spiked a diamond on the turn, leaving me feeling rather unhappy.

    What I'm anxious to know, is what ye thought of my raise? I'm aware that medium pairs decrease in value when my total chips make up only 10 orbits. Was all-in the obvious choice for a raise?

    Also, would I be correct in assuming that it was 50-50 after the flop? I don't believe his call of my all-in to be out of order.

    Really appreciate some analysis on this one. Thanks


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    If you were prepared to stack on the hand, then move all-in preflop.

    Raising to 1500 essentially let him call 1000, to win the 2.8k pot + 1500 more of your stack (you are really not likely to fold postflop). So he gets 4.3:1 which is not bad odds, and he has position.

    Folding can be considered if you think that villain is really strong, but most likely TT is good enough here.

    Calling is the worst option as the price is too high relative to your stack.

    I push here hoping to pick up the 500+200+200+200+100= 1300. Well worth getting without a flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    fuzzbox wrote:
    I push here hoping to pick up the 500+200+200+200+100= 1300. Well worth getting without a flop.

    Yes. Making it 1500 would be best if you were desperate for action, but with TT you'd like him to go away if he has something like KJ. I would be more comfortable going 1500 if I had QQ, or if I had some kind of esoteric read on the other player that he would read the all in as weak but would fold for 1500 (I never get these reads, but plenty of people here seem to).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    easy push,unless you know the raiser to be very solid.
    the worse thing you can do here is small reriase.
    your out of position and TT is not a hand that you want ot be playing it out of position with that small stack.
    be happy about the pot that you will pick up by pushing .
    TT is a decent hand preflop but very often will turn in to muck after the flop .specially when there is more betting to take place.


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