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bad play or unlucky

  • 30-01-2006 6:42pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26


    SE last frday,100 freeze out....
    last 3 players with pretty much equal stacks.i fell confident about winnings against two tight players ,both have gotton very lucky to be in final three..
    the two player limp so i raise with 2,3 o/s in the bb.one folds and other player calls somewhat reluctantly .
    blinds were 1000/2000 and i raised 5000 more.
    flop comes 2,3,6 rainbow giving me bottom two pair so raise all in hoping for a call as it might look like a bluff on my part..i was sure i was ahead and the player called....
    what do you think he called with..let you know outcome later


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    well there's the obvious 45. When you say you raise all in, Did you bet all in or did he bet and then you raised all in. Really annoys me when players say raise when they mean bet.For this precise reason.

    if you bet all in, what were the stack sizes?

    i'm guessing it was the small blind who called preflop.
    We need more info!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 bombinator


    3 players left in tournament ..
    we hasd equal enough stacks
    .............im in the bb and other two players limp in so i re raise to 5000<average stack about 20,000>he calls my 5000
    he checks the flop in small blind, so i re raise all in with my two pair..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    A6?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭loosecannon


    he prob called with the gutshot?? maybe A5?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    he prob called with the gutshot?? maybe A5?

    that would be very unlikely if he is a tight player as described, an overpair is most likely from whats been said, dont see a tight player calling 25% of his stack pre flop with 45.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭careca


    66 or AA (and hit a higher two pair)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    deffo not AA unless he was a moneky.
    he woud have raised preflop with AA and even if he wanted to limp he would deffo reraise after the initial raise with it.
    if he is a thight player as u said he was then A6 woulddnt really fit here either.
    big paires like KK,QQ,JJ,TT are not possible again for the same reason as AA is not possible unless he is a moneky.
    66 is a very possible.
    22 ,33 are possible but unlikely seen as you have one of eash and there is one on the flop.
    77 ,88,99 is very possible here and kinda fits the profile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    4,5 for the straight


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Norwich Fan Rob


    cant think of many hands id like to limp on the button, then call a 5k raise, unless trapping with a monster (which i would do if i had u pegged as loose as he probably did), originally thought 88, 99, but if he limps that on the button 3 handed i hate that play, now im thinking maybe AA, and another 6 fell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 bombinator


    well he called my all in with out hesitation and turned over pocket 2s...
    i could not believe it as i had 2,3 also...
    hes hand held up and i was gone..............was my mistake here playing 2,3 trying to steal the blinds with the 5,000 raise and should i have put more tought into going all in ..
    or i just think the hand plays itself really and i could not fold bottom two pair with just 3 players left


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Norwich Fan Rob


    i hate the way he played it, any flop with no 2 on it and he has to fold and has done 25% of his chips.
    He played it wrong on several streets.
    Nothing wrong with your raise, its good not to let people limp on your bb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    Even tight players losen up sometimes, especailly when they're in the money... not sure you would have gotten away from a loss even if you limped, bottom two pair isn't a bad hand, hate playing two pair, always nerbvous of trips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    bombinator wrote:
    well he called my all in with out hesitation and turned over pocket 2s...
    i could not believe it as i had 2,3 also...
    hes hand held up and i was gone..............was my mistake here playing 2,3 trying to steal the blinds with the 5,000 raise and should i have put more tought into going all in ..
    or i just think the hand plays itself really and i could not fold bottom two pair with just 3 players left
    he was a donkey playing the hand like that.to actually even limp here is a mistake not to mention limpimg and flat calling a big raise.
    he should have folded or raised preflop.even better reraise you raise but that would take a really good player to do that.
    so unlucky with the way the hand played out .however you said villian was tight.thight players would not play that hand that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    bombinator wrote:
    3 players left in tournament ..
    we hasd equal enough stacks
    .............im in the bb and other two players limp in so i re raise to 5000<average stack about 20,000>he calls my 5000
    he checks the flop in small blind, so i re raise all in with my two pair..

    1. you did not reraise preflop. you raised.
    2. you did not reraise on the flop. you bet.

    If you're reading about poker it is important to understand there is a huge difference between moving in on a checked pot and raising or even reraising.
    Unlucky though that he had pocket deuces. He played them horrendously!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    had the same hand last week on the button with 5 players left, there was one limper, I push all-in, knowing they would need a massive hand to call it.

    He played the hand poor, but you were unlucky. If it had been a AK flop you would have got away from the hand.

    I wouldn't have push on the flop do, I would have check and let him bet for 2 reasons, 1 for information, ie overpair, 2 to get more chips of him and let him think he's stealing it. Than come over the top.


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