Looking for Sponsorship for Vienna

NickyOD

Hi Guys,

I'm going to be playing the E-WSOP €2,000 buy-in main event in the Vienna Poker festival, March 2nd-5th. I'm not looking for backers for my buy in but I am looking for a sponsor to soften the cost of my other expenses in return for wearing their gear, setting up a link to your site on my blog and whatever else goes with being sponsored.

If anyone might be interested in sponsoring a handsom, well spoken, errr... up and coming young Irish professional please send me a PM.

Sorry for the spam but since so many of us have asked for backing here I didn't think it would be a problem.

Thanks

Nicky.

Benglian

This is just my two cents Nicky.

You appear to be very serious about goung Pro and very proffesional about your Poker.

What you should do is put together a small 'Info pack' about Poker in general, Poker in Ireland, the exploding popularity of it, and the Press (TV, radio, newspaper) exposure that poker is receiving. How it is only going to get more popular, and how a 'dynamic', 'innovative' company like 'insert company name' can't afford to miss this 'outstanding' opportunity. Talk it up a bit.

Then talk about you and your 'high profile' 'already known in Ireland', 'press exposure' factors, your 'very popular' blog etc etc. Harp on about your 'tremendous' results, and how terribly bright the future looks, EPT's TV games. Sell yourself.

Set out a little what you are looking for in terms of putting you in for events/travel costs/etc. etc. and how much it will cost them. Might even be worth talking to one of the guys who has sponsorship (Roy the boy, andy etc) to see what they actually get. Don't forget to mention the WSOP !!

Set out what you offer in terms of mentioning your sponsor/s incessantly in your 'constant' press interviews, wearing all thier gear 'all the time' etc etc

Then post out a copy of this to any and all 'Big companies' marketing managers who you think might be remotely interested in spending some of their humoungous budgets on such a great, fun, exciting and exploding(!) way.
Go outside poker, try and drag in mainstream companies.

I think you might get lucky and have a couple of bites. I mean there is bound to be someone out there who recognises your incredible 'potential marketing value'.

I might be inclined to even try the 'consider your offer amongst all the others I have had coming in' reply to initial interest as well.

Bottom line is a day out of your life for writing it all up, a few copying costs, and the price of a few stamps.....

Just my two cents....has to be worth a try before everybody else try's it?


Post how you get on...Oh, and don't forget me when you're rich and famous, I might need a lend one day....

Daithio

Looking for one big sponsorship deal will be tough enough though Nicky. Divide it up in to shares and sell them on, I'm sure there'll be loads of people interested in having a stake in you.

NickyOD

Daithio wrote:

Looking for one big sponsorship deal will be tough enough though Nicky. Divide it up in to shares and sell them on, I'm sure there'll be loads of people interested in having a stake in you.

Since I don't have a lot of experience I don't think its fair for me to ask for too much. I don't need any help with the buy in anyway, and I've secured a deal with Vegas Baby poker to wear their gear, and linky my blog in return for covering some of my expenses. I think that's more than I could hope for considering I don't have a good record in big tournament but I am certain that its only a mater of time before that changes as I've had several four figure cashes in online multis in the last 2 months and I don't even play that many. Also when it comes to getting financial backing for tournaments I think you're better off trying to get your flights, accomodation, expenses wtc. covered before your buy-in, that way when you finish ITM you don't have to give so much to backers.

DeVore

Don't sell yourself cheap or you devalue not only yourself but others too. That said the lack of a big tournie win is a bit of a problem. Not that I don't think you are good, in reality you are. In the perception of reality, well thats a little trickier

I stand by my assertion that JacoRama is a sponsored player because he has a wide selection of sunglasses and changed his name.


DeV.

Dub13

We should start some kind of boards fund,kind of like a pension fund.All cash invested into boards players,there are plenty of people out there who would back the top end players from this forum.It just needs abit of management.

DeVore

Dub13 wrote:

We should start some kind of boards fund,kind of like a pension fund.All cash invested into boards players,there are plenty of people out there who would back the top end players from this forum.It just needs abit of management.

Thats an interesting idea but who decides who are the Top End Players?

DeV.

Dub13

DeVore wrote:

Thats an interesting idea but who decides who are the Top End Players?

DeV.

I have not taught it through I was just thinking out loud.Something like once a year open up the fund for 4 weeks build up the cash,in effect sell blocks for a said price.Then all investors vote in a committee to handle the cash for the next year.Then a player can approach the committee and inform them of what big games they plan on playing and the committee can decide if the boards fund want to take a stake in that particular playing playing in said tournament.



I think its something we should look into.If we go broke we go broke but it would be fun and keep us stuck back at home interested.We would also be helping more boards players play in big games which can only be a good thing.

Ste05

I must say this is a great idea, a nice way to have an investment in solid players that you know will play well, have a proven track record, and if you've invested in multiple solid players, it must reduce the variance on the investment as a whole, also gives you a real interest in these tournaments cos you'll have an investment in them.... I like the committee idea too. I wouldn't like other people making decisions with various peoples money. I think there'd have to be a set % majority decision rule, so we can actually make decisions....

Obviously 1 vote per share, not just 1 vote per person. But you'd need to also need to make sure that one or two big investers, don't end up making decisions with other peoples money, but hopefully there wouldn't be any disputes, because the top proven players are pretty obvious I would have thought....

Culchie

Ste05 wrote:

I must say this is a great idea, a nice way to have an investment in solid players that you know will play well, have a proven track record, and if you've invested in multiple solid players, it must reduce the variance on the investment as a whole, also gives you a real interest in these tournaments cos you'll have an investment in them.... I like the committee idea too. I wouldn't like other people making decisions with various peoples money. I think there'd have to be a set % majority decision rule, so we can actually make decisions....

Obviously 1 vote per share, not just 1 vote per person. But you'd need to also need to make sure that one or two big investers, don't end up making decisions with other peoples money, but hopefully there wouldn't be any disputes, because the top proven players are pretty obvious I would have thought....

Great Idea, just like a share investment club, except the 'shares' are boardsters.
I've mooted this point for a while, but the 'committee' side of things really puts structure on it.

Dub13

Ste05 wrote:

Obviously 1 vote per share, not just 1 vote per person. But you'd need to also need to make sure that one or two big investers, don't end up making decisions with other peoples money, but hopefully there wouldn't be any disputes, because the top proven players are pretty obvious I would have thought....

This is a small problem but I am sure we could work something out,you want to in courage as much investment as possabile but also dont want the fund taken over by one or two big investers.

The way I see it the committee could operate in two ways.

1)Take full control of decision's and decide between themselves were the money goes.This would be a big responsibility if the fund gets big,but it would cut out a monopoly of big investors deciding were the cash goes.


Or

2)The Committee would filter out all offers which don't seem attractive such as to fund Rory into the free roll,or Doc to go on another bender.The Committee could then report back to investors with a short list and then its down to a good old fashioned vote.


This is all off the top of my head,maybe with more time we can come up with other ideas.Or we could conclude that its to much hassle.

DeVore

I'd be happy to do this but I am worried about Boards invovlement. I dunno how the other Admins might react, I can always ask them. Or we can do it separately. It doesnt need much to do it.

DeV.

Dub13

DeVore wrote:

I'd be happy to do this but I am worried about Boards invovlement. I dunno how the other Admins might react, I can always ask them. Or we can do it separately. It doesnt need much to do it.

The link between investors does not necessarily have to be boards,but I think some kind of a link is a must at least we all know each other here.

Dub13

ps:Sorry Nicky for hijacking this thread.

Culchie

DeVore wrote:

I'd be happy to do this but I am worried about Boards invovlement. I dunno how the other Admins might react, I can always ask them. Or we can do it separately. It doesnt need much to do it.

DeV.

Boards Co. Ltd wouldn't be involved ... it's best to keep it seperate, but for 'boardsters' as such ... i.e the people that post here.

Dub13

It would be kind of like a group of mates buying a greyhound,but we are to smart for that we are going to hedge bet and not risk it all one one player.

Culchie

Dub13 wrote:

It would be kind of like a group of mates buying a greyhound,but we are to smart for that we are going to hedge bet and not risk it all one one player.

Yeh

Greyhound/EPO = Doc Farrell/Erdringer

Dub13

Culchie wrote:

Yeh

Greyhound/EPO = Doc Farrell/Erdringer

I have always wanted to name a Greyhound or Horse,maybe if this gets off the ground we could name a Player .

DeVore

Culchie wrote:

Boards Co. Ltd wouldn't be involved ... it's best to keep it seperate, but for 'boardsters' as such ... i.e the people that post here.

Yes, thats a better idea. I could set you (us?) up a private forum on Antesup. Best to keep this out of the public eye perhaps. Just so noses arent out of joint.

DeV.

Dub13

Good idea Tom.....A sub forum were we can trash out ideas,lets walk before we try to run.

Ste05

Excellent idea, great way to discuss things openly, yet behind closed doors..

ZZR1100

Ste05 wrote:

Obviously 1 vote per share, not just 1 vote per person. But you'd need to also need to make sure that one or two big investers, don't end up making decisions with other peoples money, but hopefully there wouldn't be any disputes, because the top proven players are pretty obvious I would have thought....

So who are the top proven players? Perhaps if Antes up set up their player profiles much the same way as the hendon mobs site the group of investors would be able to get a better idea about who to back. Presumably the top money earners / finishers in live games as those are the games which the players will be running

kincsem

Dub13 wrote:

It would be kind of like a group of mates buying a greyhound,but we are to smart for that we are going to hedge bet and not risk it all one one player.

Mmm .... let's see.

DeVore involved.....Greyhound.....Losing poker players.

I Know. Santa's little helper fund. :v: :v: :v:

OK Tom, your'e elected.

Seriously we do need a mechanism where -
1) people can take an interest in players.
2) players gain experience over a number of tourneys.

Imposter

To get somewhat back on topic (not really), is anyone else thinking of heading to Vienna?

I reckon i'll head down for a few days if i'm still living a life of leisure and i've no skiing planned. It's unlikely i'll be playing the big one but some of the smaller games and cash games would definitely be on the agenda.

Doc Farrell

Culchie wrote:

Yeh

Greyhound/EPO = Doc Farrell/Erdringer

Jeeze,

who was hammered yesterday and who was the only one there sober?

pot kettle black.

i only boose after a game, i never drink when i'm playing, ask anyone.

I have to change the car in the next few months so u can rule me out except for perhaps a specific amount on a specific player for a specific tourney which i nominate my character assassin Culchie to keep me informed about.

Right in this minute the only people I have personally played against and can vouch for as being good enough to invest in are Fatboy (man I love saying that name!) fatboy, big d, the o'callaghan boys, the antes up muppets, pokertroll and head and shoulders above all these of course, me. I left out a dozen others who are good enough but whose game I cannot personally vouch for.

The only way i can see this taking off is like this:

(and i'm probably mistaken)

have an 20 player tourney at 100e each for a 2000e ticket.

the winner gets the ticket and 20% of any winnings. the rest get 4%. the remaining is it 4%? goes to charity. the winner pays his own expenses.

that interests me. most likely other players will say 'well, why not just play for 100% of the ticket' and they may be right.

one other thing, if it does take off then players have to be invited to participate. there are 1 or 2 guys on the scene who i wouldnt want involved because they are arseholes. that doesnt include u roryc. i said doesn't! jeeze.

this forum has been successful because of the positive (mostly) vibe. but once money starts moving around instead of just egos then all hell could break loose. i don't want to sound like a doomsayer but

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

(yes, u)

anyway, whatever happens i will most likely not be able to afford it so thats my twopence worth.

carrigeen

Theres five heading from galway, fintan gavin dave curtis,vinnie o toole, derek murray , pat o callaghan were flying out on the 1st and back on the sixth flights are still cheap going out getting dearer coming back on the monday check the aer lingus web site

p

DeVore

I'm heading to report. Just occured to me that there might be an opportunity to bring my snowboard and try and kill myself again!
Imposter, you thinking about heading for the hills?

DeV.

Daithio

If I end up going I'll head snowboarding/skiing with you Dev. Let us know before you book flights, we could just stay on for 4-5 extra days.

Imposter

DeVore wrote:

I'm heading to report. Just occured to me that there might be an opportunity to bring my snowboard and try and kill myself again!
Imposter, you thinking about heading for the hills?

DeV.

Not a problem. Try booking flights coming into or going out of Salzburg (aer Lingus) if possible as it would leave things easier. I can organise accomodation for skiing if we get relatively accurate numbers. DeV you can organise the insurance

NickyOD

FYI. I am also travelling with the Galway crew. What a bunch of friggin' nutters they are.

Imposter

Bump.

How is (was) this in the middle of the 2nd page already! :rolleyes: