Carlow.biz

Fortune

Hi.

I registered Carlow.biz two years ago. I havent been able to come up with
anything I could do a website on, other than a business directory (but that
would be quite a large project).

So I'm looking for appraisals (your opinion on its current/future value to reseller
and enduser).

I had it appraised about a year ago at the very popular Domain Name Forum,
DNForum.com. They average appraisal was about €400. Though most of the
people appraising were Americans, and none were Irish.

I'd like to know how much you think it would be worth from an Irish Perspective.
Thanks in advance.

ChicoMendez

Fortune wrote:

I'd like to know how much you think it would be worth from an Irish Perspective.
Thanks in advance.

the price you paid for it!

dahamsta

Appraisals on something like that are a waste of space. Aside from it being too specific, people don't generally want BIZ domains, they and INFO never really took off. If someone actually wants it, ask how much they'll pay for it. If no-one has asked, you'll be lucky to sell it as you'll have to approach people and they'll be in the position of authority. If this was the case I'd either sit on it until someone approaches me, or more likely just let it expire.

adam

mneylon

I'd give you a couple of times the annual registration fees, but not a cent more

Fortune

How can you say it BIZ and INFO never really took off when there are more than 1,291,676 BIZs registered and more than 2,405,264 INFOs registered (http://www.whois.sc/internet-statistics/)

They both have also had strong sales. Here are some recent ones;

Alice.biz - €3,000 = $3,634
eBooks.biz - €1,760 = $2,135
Funds.info - $22,246
Meningitis.biz - $15,000
Musical.info - $13,936
SantaClaus.info - $12,307
Cards.biz - $11,750
Find.biz - $10,630
Südtirol.info - $10,308
Auto.biz - $7,966
Maschinenbau.info - $7,772
BES.biz - $7,139
Wetten.info - $6,895
Pets.biz - $6,500
Offshore.biz - $6,500
TravelNet.info - $6,231
Juego.info - $5,909
Leather.info - $5,861
Dad.info - $5,556
Chinese.info - $5,500
Safe.biz - $5,189
Manhattan.biz - $5,000
Broker.info - $5,000
WhitePages.biz - $4,995
Marketing.biz - $4,748
Golfreisen.info - $4,906
Adventure.info - $4,708
Pauschalreisen.info - $4,507
MyHouse.biz - $4,500
Manhattan.info - $4,500
HTML.info - $4,300
Physician.info - $4,150
Degrees.info - $3,800
ChurchOfChrist.info - $3,750
Pauschalreise.info - $3,606
OGM.info - $3,602
GEP.info - $3,576
Attest.info - $3,559
Suez.info - $3,500
New-York.info - $3,500

Also see;
http://dnjournal.com/archive/domainsales/2004-expanded-newtld.htm
http://dnjournal.com/archive/domainsales/2005-expanded-newtld.htm

So I would say plenty of people want .BIZ and .INFO domains, and they did take off. Nothing like .com, but no-one can expect them to reach that level in all honesty.

Anyway. I think I'll hold onto it for a few more years.

mneylon

You may have forgotten that a lot of the growth in .biz and .info is inflated by the promotions the registries and registrars have run over the last 2 years. They basically gave away .info domains!

Another thing worth mentioning is the perceived validity of .info and .biz

Many spam filters will score mail from .biz and .info domains higher than mail from other domain extensions. This is not a coincidence

dahamsta

Fortune wrote:

How can you say it BIZ and INFO never really took off when there are more than 1,291,676 BIZs registered and more than 2,405,264 INFOs registered (http://www.whois.sc/internet-statistics/)

As compared to 36m COM domains. It's also worth noting the deletion statistics, INFO has dropped by a million in less than a year (April 2005) and although COM deletions outweigh current registrations, that's over the entire existence of COM. BIZ has dropped by a higher percentage in what, 2-3 years?

It's also worth noting the domains you've listed value for -- they're valuable. With no offense intended, CARLOW.BIZ isn't going to be valuable to many people, and it certainly isn't going to be valuable on the world stage, like the domains listed.

You asked for opinions, you got one. I can't help it if you don't like it.

adam

Fortune

I value all opinions, whether I like them or not. I'm very greatful that you took the time to reply to this thread. I'm not saying Carlow.biz is worth much or anything at all.

However I am saying that .biz and .info certainly are not failures, and comparing them to .com isnt right. Since .com has been around since 1985, and .info/.biz have been around for only a few years.

dahamsta

Perhaps "failure" is a bit harsh on the grand scale, perhaps they'll become more popular in time.

However I personally only have one of each (one defensive, the other defensive+adminstrative); the numbers don't add up; I don't know anybody in the business that cares about them; and I wouldn't advise my clients to use them (I manage portfolios).

That to me is not a successful TLD at this point in time. Or, to put it another way, they never took off. See my point?

adam

mneylon

We hold a growing number of them, but they are primarily defensive registrations.. I can't think of many that are being used as the primary domain except one where the .info is used for their open source project and the .biz is aimed at the paid support options (the .com is being squatted)