Long run?

Running Bing

Im sure this question has been asked before but I had a search and couldnt find anything, so Im just wondering how long is long run? How many hands or hours must I play to get stats that accurately reflect my play? Thnaks.

staringelf

infinity..................................and beyond


no seriously. the long run in sng's anyway is at least 10,000

although you should have a fair idea of your long run expectation after about 3 or 4 thousand i think.

cah games i don't know....someone else more knowledgable will help you with that

Ste05

1,000,000 hands should probably about cover you, :rolleyes:

DeVore

If its major tournies you are talking about, then its probably longer then your lifespan simply because you'd probably only play 6-8 a year and even thats a lot. In STT's and Cash games I'd expect it to be lower (and lower again, respectively).
The is a thread in this forum (started by La Fortezza) about a discussion on 2+2 on this very topic.

DeV.

Running Bing

sorry I really should have said that I play only cash games.

Marq

Realistically, 100,000 hands should give you good approxamations of what your hourly expectation is in any particular game. It will take far fewer hands to see if you're a winning player a the same game. Reliable information will start to emerge after 10,000 - 20,000 hands (about 300 hours play on a single table online). for live play, it's obviously more difficult to track, but I think taht after 200 - 300 hours at a particular game reliable information regarding expectations should emerge.

For example, after 350 hours of the 1/2 Hold'em Omaha cash game last year I can reasonably say that my expectation in the game is €13.10 per hour. However, my standard deviation for the same game is €194, meaning that I can reasonably expect fluctuations of up to about 600 euro an hour, which sounds about right.

Hitchhiker's Guide to...

if you seach for Nicky O'D's posts, you'll find his analysis of his long-term. Quite interesting, also maybe check out his blog which is in his signature...