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Howth Junction and Donaghmede DART Station

  • 14-01-2006 4:43pm
    #1
    Stephanos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭


    Does anyone share my frustration with the mentioned station? It is, at present, a nightmare!


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  • #2
    Winters
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Or a heaven for graffiti artists, a blank canvas so to speak..

    Do you mean the structure or the name change? The concrete was just an excuse to keep CRH happy. The whole structure IS a bit excessive and Im not too sure how it is compatible with 4 track upgrade.

    I believe the name change came about after some local campaigning. As with common re-branding the 'Howth Junction' shall become less prevelant and dropped completely in 3 to 4 years.


  • #3
    Stephanos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Stephanos


    I mean the structure; the name change does not bother me.

    I had to face a torrent of verbal abuse from some charming teenagers. I must admit that I am nervous passing through it at night.

    The entire structure is no more than a hamster-run, designed to confuse people, and make them late for their trains.


  • #4
    patrickmooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭patrickmooney


    Hamster-run indeed. I've missed about two darts so far. Granted it's not fully opened yet, but at present if your heading south, you've to *guess* which platform the next dart is arriving as the displays are only visiable from platform level. To cross platform takes about 2 minutes and well over 100 steps. It's a mess.


  • #5
    EvilDoctorK
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭EvilDoctorK


    Winters wrote:
    The whole structure IS a bit excessive and Im not too sure how it is compatible with 4 track upgrade.

    I've often wondered how compatible any of the new access works on the northside DART stations would be with any future track upgrade

    there's enough concrete to build several bomb shelters gone into the (hardly used) access ramps at Harmonstown, Killester and Raheny ... they are right on the existing platforms so presumably would have to be removed if there ever was a 4 track upgrade ?


  • #6
    daymobrew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    Stephanos wrote:
    I mean the structure; the name change does not bother me.

    I had to face a torrent of verbal abuse from some charming teenagers. I must admit that I am nervous passing through it at night.

    The entire structure is no more than a hamster-run, designed to confuse people, and make them late for their trains.
    Give the station master (he's in Sutton) a call (Tom Lenahe 888-0201) and let him know about the safety aspect. He may be able to ask the Gardai to make regular stops there, or he might ask the drivers to be on the look-out (to report to the Gardai).
    Howth Junction info (and a link to the late AerDart service) and Sutton information.

    Irish Rail have a phone number to report anti-social behaviour: 1800-344-544. This might be useful after-the-fact.


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  • #7
    Stephanos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Stephanos


    I emailed the good people of Irish rail, on the only feedback mechanism on their site, but have received no reply. I keep meaning to follow it up because I am at the end of my tether with the whole thing.

    On the Donaghmede side there is a ticket booth they have opened so people do not have to go all the way over to the other side to purchase. Now this booth is only open on some mornings of the week. I am yet to figure out the logic to it. It was open this morning but the chap behind the counter said in order to purhcase my ticket I would have to cross the 'bridge' to the other side. This resulted in me evading fare.

    It's a farce!


  • #8
    lostexpectation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    its a long overdue uprgrade, I guess alot of work goes into providing ramps and lifts for the less able, which explains it hugeness.

    I not sure about the split and covered bridge for safety would preferred a open one....

    i thought there was a security there most of the time at the mo


  • #9
    Stephanos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Stephanos


    lostexpectation wrote:
    its a long overdue uprgrade, I guess alot of work goes into providing ramps and lifts for the less able, which explains it hugeness.

    I not sure about the split and covered bridge for safety would preferred a open one....

    i thought there was a security there most of the time at the mo

    The walkover atClontarf Station provides wheel chair access but is nothing like the vastness at Howth Junction-Donaghmede (HJD). Understandably, HJD Station is different as it is a junction should it have been so immense?

    The presence of security varies considerably. During the week you might see it a number of times per evening, and then see no sight of them another. The DART station's construction allows for 'loiterers' and the likes to stay out sight, of the security guards, by hanging around on the steps that lead to the walkway.

    It's a mess for so many reasons. The construction is nearly complete and so few of them are rectifiable.


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