Single men happiest in the land, says poll

Capt'n Midnight

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=138683220&p=y386838xx&n=138683829

“The average age of marriage is increasing year on year as men and women actively choose to stay single for longer.

“This delay in taking on particular responsibilities allows men to spend more money and time on their own leisure habits and the more comfortable they are with their independent cash rich lifestyle the less likely they are to want to change until they are absolutely ready.”

The report said there are 2.88 million men in Ireland – 0.84 million in Northern Ireland and 2.04 million in the Republic – which amounts to 49% of the population.

By my reckoning that means there are 57,600 surplus women on this Island

Binomate

Single for life tbh. That's my plan.

See also:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=50680648&postcount=51

pyure

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

By my reckoning that means there are 57,600 surplus women on this Island

and yet im still single...sigh

Peteee

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

By my reckoning that means there are 57,600 surplus women on this Island

If they are surplus, are they going cheap?

Civilian_Target

You can have one, the other 57,599 are for me.

simu

All the posts in PI are made up then - I knew it!!!!

Binomate

simu wrote:

All the posts in PI are made up then - I knew it!!!!

You hardly needed this thread to tell you that.

simu

Binomate wrote:

You hardly needed this thread to tell you that.

Yes. But. Yes.

ronbyrne2005

i like women i do.

rubadub

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

By my reckoning that means there are 57,600 surplus women on this Island

Yeah but in reality there is not some niteclub with 57,600 women gumming for dick. It does mean there are about 104 women for every 100 men which sounds better than saying 49%.
But again back to reality, there are not 4 women hanging around at the end of the night. What the survey doesnt mention is that women live longer than men, so those extra 4 are auld grannies. If you actually did the figures you may find there are less women per man in a particular age group. Birth counts may show this. Anybody know the ratio?

BigArnie

rubadub wrote:

Yeah but in reality there is not some niteclub with 57,600 women gumming for dick.

...but if anyone finds one, could they please PM me and let me know where it is.

Capt'n Midnight

rubadub wrote:

Yeah but in reality there is not some niteclub with 57,600 women gumming for dick. It does mean there are about 104 women for every 100 men which sounds better than saying 49%.
But again back to reality, there are not 4 women hanging around at the end of the night. What the survey doesnt mention is that women live longer than men, so those extra 4 are auld grannies. If you actually did the figures you may find there are less women per man in a particular age group. Birth counts may show this. Anybody know the ratio?

OMG - thats what the Bingo Halls are, a place to store 57,600 grannies !!

Wertz

CIA world fact book is good for that kinda thing...or the national statistics office...

Sparky

i knew being single for longer than i should be would pay off

ronbyrne2005

by the way does anyone know how the sexes-male and females.tend to be born in roughly equal ratios,ie 1:1 ? i presume it something to with genetics ,but what determines sex? i know some mothers who had 4,5 or 6 males in a row! if that was random then the odds would be .5^6 or a one in 64 chance. i know that crocodiles emerge from their shells a certain sex due to the ambient temperature in their nest ,so if global warming continues one sex will vastly outnumber the opposite sex in crocs?

Cake Fiend

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

By my reckoning that means there are 57,600 surplus women on this Island

So at least 100 attractive ones!









/me runs...

MorningStar

Don't we also have a very high rate of suicide in males?

I think this chould be where polls really don't tell the truth or show the difference in what people say and what people feel.

Lux23

That poll doesn't make sense as the majority of suicides are single males and men who remain single die younger as well. Men need women more then women need men.

Tha Gopher

Rubadub- iirc there are very slightly more baby boys born than girls, something like 101/100 or 102 maybe. However, the fact young males are more prone to early death (cot death, car accidents, violent death, drinking paraffin for a dare at 15) evens it out pretty much by the late teens/early 20s. Im sure all of us have a family down the road or whatever where your mother has said "their son woulda been in school with you but died when he was 3". Dont have the figures but from life experience alot more young males seem to die.

In later life, earlier death of men causes the ratio to tip well into the female side.

The amount of people who look about 40-42 you see now with kids of 3 or 4 is astounding. Wouldnt want to be a real old parent like that myself tbh.

fischerspooner

Yes being single is the best thing ever. Currently I have a girlfriend and I long for the times where I could get drunk as I want, sleep with who I want, and do whatever I want without it affecting anyone. There are pros and cons but being single is the way forward. Unfortunately sometimes women grow on you and it becomes a can't live with/without them situation. Now all I get is hassle about moving in with them, the bloody future, holidays, making stupid plans etc. etc. I long for no responsibilities. I can only imagine how awful it must be to have children too .

Lux23

Lux23 wrote:

That poll doesn't make sense as the majority of suicides are single males and men who remain single die younger as well. Men need women more then women need men.

There's nothing to suggest that the number of male suicides in Irland is linked to a need for female companionship. I could as easily say that the majority of suicides in Ireland occur because of an involvement with an Irish woman.

joejoem

It all depends on wheather the girl wrecks your head on not I think. If your seeing someone that straps herself to your ankle and wont let go, you are unhappy 80% of the time. If she does her own thing and you get on well together and everything is kept easy breezy then its great. But being single is a good feeling most of the time. Nice to have a bed to yourself, cook for one. Plus the sex is so stress free.

Pighead

Heres Pigheads poll(easy tigers!) having chosen 5 posts at random from the single thread in the cuckoos nest.

Really depressingly cry themselves to sleep at night unhappy: 100%
Really carefree i couldnt give a fcuk if i'm single or not: 0%

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2948076&postcount=32

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2945657&postcount=5

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2945797&postcount=6

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2948636&postcount=94

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2974840&postcount=177

QED single people are terribly unhappy and feel a profound need to be loved by someone.(anyone)(anything)

Considering I've been single most of my life, I'd say that I enjoy it. Sure there are times when i'd like to have a girlfriend, but for the most part my life being single is fine.

Depression about being single for me might come about After a failed interaction with a woman. But depressed about being single other than that? few and far between.

But then the majority of my friends in relationships want to be single, and the majority of those single, want to be in a relationship. Go figure.

Shabadu

It depends on the circumstances. I know a many miserable people in destructive relationships, and some people in very happy ones.

I think there a lot of unhappy relationships because many people are subscribing to this 'never comprimise, expect perfection' view that comes through all major media nowadays. There are no relationship quick fixes, there is no perfect person. To have a happy relationship, I believe you should try to be flexible, compassionate, affectionate, giving and confident. You really reap what you sow.

Amazotheamazing

While that might be true Shabadu, I'd say an awful lot of people are in unhappy relationships just because they're going out with mentalists.

Shabadu

Amazotheamazing wrote:

While that might be true Shabadu, I'd say an awful lot of people are in unhappy relationships just because they're going out with mentalists.

:v:

rubadub

Lux23 wrote:

and men who remain single die younger as well.

I heard that before and was also wondering how they work it out, and if there could be faulty presumptions made due to the stats.(just like the above ratio with no mention of elderly women).

i.e. do they add up all the men who died in the last year and average out their ages, say 70, and then figure that more single men died at a younger age? I would have no doubt that this is the case makes perfect logical sense, but gives no proof that married men live longer (in the way people would think it infers). If a 10year old boy dies, a 70yo single man and a 2 men married men die age 60, then you add them up and the average age of death is 50. But it appears that the single "man" died well before that, so the average age single men die is 40, and the married guys are 60.

They are saying the average man marries at 34 here so anybody dying before that is going to really mess up the figures.
I hate stats with no reasoning or comments/notes to explain oddball figures.

Lux23 wrote:

Men need women more then women need men.

Because of the single thing? Do single women live longer than married women?
I also find it odd when these commonly quoted surveys are sexist, I have never seen the answer to the question I just asked. Another one is the old one of "the average man thinks of sex every 6 seconds", -oh my god-shock,horror. They are making out as though men are depraved perverts, but I have NEVER seen the same stat about women, they probably think about sex every 7 seconds, or every 3seconds!

Nimrod's Son

Lux23 wrote:

Men need women more then women need men.

I have to disagree with this. Based on various couples I know, it always seems to be the woman who's a bit more clingy (for want of a better word). Either that or men are better at concealing their need - a possibility I suppose.

pork99

I remember there was a survey of relationships and behaviour a few years ago where one of its conclusions was the single men would be "condemned to" a future of "drinking, take away meals, video games and one night stands".

Surely that should have been single men "can look forward to" a future of "drinking, take away meals, video games and one night stands"?

Amazotheamazing

If men needed women more than women needed men, surely there'd be alot more male orientated magazines about "getting her to marry you", "making the relationship work" etc, instead of, "making her sister want you" and "3somes, great idea eh?".
Men want women, I don't think men necessarily need them.

rubadub

Nimrod's Son wrote:

I have to disagree with this. Based on various couples I know, it always seems to be the woman who's a bit more clingy (for want of a better word). Either that or men are better at concealing their need - a possibility I suppose.

I think it was a more simple reference to the stat saying single men die younger, which I showed the blatant flaw in. Also there was no mention if single women die younger than married, so the statment cannot really be seen as logical.
All I know is that there are far more women I know actively seeking boyfriends than vice versa. I also notice far more women trying to "set me up"(and my other male friends) with their female mates, I can't recall a male friend trying to set a female up with one of their friends.

honru

Of course women need men, who's going to protect her from all the scary animals she may come across?

Sleepy

Amazotheamazing wrote:

If men needed women more than women needed men, surely there'd be alot more male orientated magazines about "getting her to marry you", "making the relationship work" etc, instead of, "making her sister want you" and "3somes, great idea eh?".
Men want women, I don't think men necessarily need them.

Definitely true in my opinion. I love women, I want them but I'll never need anyone. My ex used to find that extremely hard to take but the fact is I'm no less a person when I'm single than when I'm in a relationship (in fact, there's usually more of me when I'm single due to lack of exercise ). So, if I'm still a complete person as a singleton, I don't *need* a woman to live a complete and happy life. I'd prefer to share my life with someone special but I don't necessarily need to.

Besides, when you really think about it, would you rather your partner was with you because they needed you or because they wanted you?

Civilian_Target

Sleepy wrote:

I don't *need* a woman to live a complete and happy life. I'd prefer to share my life with someone special but I don't necessarily need to.

Besides, when you really think about it, would you rather your partner was with you because they needed you or because they wanted you?

You make a point. I just realised when you said that, I look at it in the same way. There's no point in being in a relationship to pass the time...

Blisterman

Well thats not true for everyone. My friend became a whole different person, when his girlfriend broke up with him. He's much quieter and introverted the last few months. I think he needs a girlfriend.

Lux23

I find alot of my male friends hate being single and they tend to jump straight into a new realtionship when the previous one ends. Two of my aunts are divorced and both moved on fairly quickly and have both successful realtionship. Whereas there ex husbands had left them for the single life but have both ended up miserable. It was a generalisation to say that men need women more then men but I do see alot of men in my life who would be nothing without their women supporting them. I don't see many women the other way round.

As for people who are clingy in realtionships they are suffering from low self-esteem and should realise they don't need a partner to legitimize their existence in the world.

fischerspooner

His spirit is broken and he's spineless for the time being but it should grow back like it does for most of us and he'll have tougher skin for it and probably wont allow himself to need a lass ever again, which is the way it should be. You should never lose your independence, single or not.

rubadub

Lux23 wrote:

Two of my aunts are divorced and both moved on fairly quickly and have both successful realtionship. Whereas there ex husbands had left them for the single life but have both ended up miserable.

Did they tell you they are miserable? the fact you call them aunts and the other ex-husbands (rather than uncles) would lead me to think that the aunts are blood relations to you so you are probably in close contact with them, is it the aunt who tell you they are miserable? (i.e. I doubt they would be saying the ex is getting along great without them!)
The fact the aunts moved on to find another man would sort of contradict your previous statement, but the miserable uncles sort of agrees with it. I just wonder if the aunts would be even more miserable than the uncles if they didnt find somebody else.
Either way it is all generalisations and individual experience.

Lux23

Well one of the is in and out of St Ita's and the other lives down the road from my parents and spends most of his spare time at my parents with his ex wife sister's family! I think both my aunt's realised how much fuller their life was going to be without their husband although it did take the a couple of years. Whereas their husbands have both lost out on alot.Im not saying men are hopeless, but they have a tendency to lean on their partners after they are with them a while. My own father would be dead by the end of the year if my mother left him. But I suppose I am just speaking from own experience and others may have seen different things.