Worst ebay fraud ever?

nlgbbbblth

Check out this feedback.

qz

After all the negative feedback, it's partly the buyer's fault.

Another victim of this scam

:rolleyes:

chump

that is harsh

but if you look back the bulk of the negative feedback started on the 17th of Dec...

A lot of people probably ordered it a few days before that, and then awaited delivery, and bam come 16/17th Dec all the bad rep arrives.

Winning Hand

That sucks, although he does have some preceding suspicious feedback that would of put me off dealing with him.

spiderlegs

Dodgy seller!!

the_menace

I'd never buy anything that valuable on eBay. The most I ever bought was concert tickets (100 Europes for 2 tickets to see Doves last month off a user with loads of positive feedback - they were fine!) and that's about as much I'd ever spend on eBay. There are too many dodgy, dishonest c**ts on there. Just like in real life

super_furry

He didn't take PayPal - only cheques and Western Union. If that doesn't set off alarm bells I don't know what would.

Ri_Nollaig

i never trust anyone who doesnt accept paypal, yes i no people have used scams with that too but it just looks too dodgy when they have it written in big red bold writting "paypal not accepted"

/edit should have refreshed before posting

i'm really afraid ive become a victim im using ebay now 6 months i bought an mp3 player for my dad for xmas sent over the 83 euro for a creative nano,
he had 98.9 positive feedback so i wasnt worried but then i noticed very so often people complaing that he kept saying the bankers draft sometimes took really long to process AND OR WITHDREW FROM TRANSACTION
now ive brought up a dispute because it been 4 weeks and he keeps saying i'm waiting on the bank to accredit so i'm taking it to ebay
the person i feel most sorry for is my dad i got him other presemts too but he really wanted a mp3 player
i'm so f**kin mad

Mr E

When the very first line of the description is "No PayPal and any type online payment auction", alarm bells start ringing.

alisher71 is probably on a beach in hawaii at the moment.

biofreak

The guy is clearly producing his own positive feedback with more people he apparently dealt with saying "Super quick payment" and "A+++"

heggie

nah i'd say he was a legit seller, but his account might have got hacked with one of those fake emails, then others use his account to sell lots and run.

Sam Vimes

looks like a hacked account to me. but the guy wouldn't accept paypal so i wouldn't have bought off him. still i won't be buying anything on ebay til these people are refunded

Ri_Nollaig

after reading tro some of the feedback it says they he/she was scammed by someone using paypal lol

koolkat

I've bought lots of stuff off e bay but only through paypall. luckily i,ve not had any problems. Did you hear about all the people who sold empty xbox boxes? they got banned for life but really the buyers should have noticed that they did not say the boxes contained the console. one guy bought the empty box and then put it back on ebay saying that he in selling it as he bought it

AngryBadger

Two things about his advert stick out

1) No Paypal - not even going into that
2) Really bad english, vs. really good english, this may seem prejudice, but a staple of dodgy transactions and scams is really poor english, often the people behind these things seem to lack proper understanding of basic grammar, if you read any of the spam e-mails that spammers edn out, they al have the sam trademark bad grammar, i reckon it's one guy responsible for all the scams myself

Ri_Nollaig

yeah the bad grammer does stand out, they often just copy and paste words in

Bluehair

Wow thats incredible, somehow I doubt it was a hacked account it looks to me like some personal(financial?) problem or other made him decide to quit trying to earn money through ebay legitimately and go out with a bang.

Judging by the average amounts for the auctions he scammed he's probably more than $30,000 up! :eek:

The poor folk who got scammed have gotton organised pretty quickly and even have setup a website with his picture here.

Best of luck to them I say..

raheny red

That bloke looks like Alfie Moon from Eastenders but you have to squint your eyes and he has to lose weight!!:p :eek: :rolleyes: )

leeroybrown

Bluehair wrote:

Wow thats incredible, somehow I doubt it was a hacked account it looks to me like some personal(financial?) problem or other made him decide to quit trying to earn money through ebay legitimately and go out with a bang.

Some of the fraudsters will probably trade up their rating to make themselves seem trustworthy before going in for the kill. A friend got defrrauded of the cost of a pair of good quality decks when a trader turned like this. He got a mail from eBay a couple of days after paying (via Paypal).

It's best to stick to Paypal unless you're dealing with a very rebutable reseller. It's also worth remembering that the standard Paypal account only comes with a limited level of fraud insurance.

ButcherOfNog

stupid greedy people, ebay clearly states the safest way to pay, yet these eejits ignored the advice and are now whinging at ebay. "Use paypal or you can get ripped off", how hard is it to understand and follow that?

GLaDOS

holy crap, 26 pages of that!,

Sam Vimes

leeroybrown wrote:

Some of the fraudsters will probably trade up their rating to make themselves seem trustworthy before going in for the kill.

i dunno cos he's been doing it for two years and he only had two negative feedbacks in that time. seems an awful long time to build up rating

Nightwish

how stupid can people be??? especially buying high value goods such as iPods, why would you deal with someone who wont use Paypal???

Mimikyu

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aquigley

heggie wrote:

nah i'd say he was a legit seller, but his account might have got hacked with one of those fake emails, then others use his account to sell lots and run.

Not in this case. They seem to have skipped town, literally.. UHaul out the front as the negative feedback was hitting the account.

It looks to be a regular well planned, build up your profile then cash out big time with 1000 fake items for sale in the run up to Christmas. The big mistake for those people hit was paying by draft or cheque. I did that back in 2002 before PayPal was common but not these days.. Sheesh..

Lots of stung and irate people out there:
http://alischersucks.blogspot.com/

Petition: http://www.onemadguy.com/alisher71sux/

Try a search for "Alisher71" in google news, it bring up 58 stories now but I bet this will grow to hundreds in the coming days.

Aaron.

Hobbes

spiderlegs wrote:

Dodgy seller!!

If I was to speculate I would say the seller is legit.

There is a known scam through phishing where the owner of the account has it hijacked. They basically use his good points to sell a scam, then when the scam falls flat the original owner gets hit for it.

Happens quite a lot.

[edit] just saw post above mine. *doh*

Siogfinsceal

Just goes to show you should always check the feedback. There is worse than this going on. Bought an item from ebay a while ago had a bit of trouble with the guy but got the item in the end. Bought a similar item on ebay the other day and it was from a different seller but when I checked my paypal account its the same guy!!! This really p*sses me off cos theres no way to see negative feedback and not buy- they switch to a new persona on ebay very quickly. I love ebay but I never spend more that 30 euro on an item its not worth the risk. There was a watch dog programme on recently highlighting the dangers cos an english teenager made thousands sellign goods he never had.
Oh, bought an item yesterday too and when I went to check it says this guy is no longer an ebay registered member. Thats disgraceful ive no idea if I will ever get my stuff now. Theres no way ebay should have allowed him to close his account until he had delivered all the stuff he sold

Triton

I'd be hugely surprised by anyone who bought anything from that account.

nlgbbbblth

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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I'm not registered for Paypal and have bought over 200 items on ebay [books, records, DVDs, CDs]. I pay by bank draft [US, UK] or bank transfer [ Europe]
Been stung once. Lost £12.

BigArnie

It's the risk you take with eBay really. Never buy anything too expensive.

WhiteWashMan

yeah, actually i nearly got hit by one of those stupid ebay emails that asks you to verify your account becuase of hackers etc.
i was so convinced because it even had the warnings up saying that ebay would only ever use your name etc on its emails, and then i noticed this one didnt.
and thats when i twigged.
felt pretty stupid after it, but i just went straight into my account and changed my password immediately.

i also would never buy anything from ebay if i couldnt use paypal, having said that, i think its a bit unfair to say that anyone who buys things of expense from ebay are stupid.
not everyone is as au fait with teh interweb as some people are.

Wertz

I've made a lot of big purchases on eBay over the years; 600 quid on a monitor, 260 on an mp3 player, 300 on some DJ equipment and loads of sub-€50 items from all over the world...most of the larger value items from the UK but some from US...never had a moment's trouble....but then before I buy or bid I always check through ALL the sales the seller has made on the feedback page and in some cases will contact other ebay members that have bought from the seller, as well as the seller themselves to see what sort of person I'm gonna be dealing with...
It's ALWAYS been through Paypal. Any item I search for, I also use Paypal accepted as a search criteria to weed out cheques/money orders...I simply don't trust paper transactions with strangers in another country...

This scam has been well thought out and run, but building up your feedback with lots of small slaes through alt accounts is a well known tactic and should be easy enough to spot unless the item links go dead (after 3 months).

If this guy scammed 200 or so people out of ~300 quid apiece, then that's 60 grand he/she scooped

pcwares

eBay has a new policy that sellers cannot offer western union or demand cash as a payment method. Its common sense to avoid these. Definitely though even a powerseller it can happen that a seller goes rogue and getting eventually suspended for seller non performance. Its not common - less than .01% overall.

Buyer -> some on this thread said they would never buy a luxury item on eBay. Thats a farce - yes use common sense however there are ways to protect your transaction. Butcherofbog there advises correctly - paypal {(paypal reversals etc)and become paypal verified and get insurance up to 500 nicker. Check out escrow for high price items such as vehicles and luxury items. Escrow is a holding house for dough. Google it. My mate bought a mini cooper from england for very little and used this service and found it very good.

sellers -> use your bidder management tools (my ebay ->preferences) and dont send a replacement or refund until you have the product back or money back - simple as. Verify the address with paypal prior to shipping. Insure it if its high price and put the additional cost into the bin listings and use your auction to drive traffic.

Trevor macdonald is a twat and totally blew it up prior to christmas but i think you'll find that the eBay monster does alot more good than bad. You can add in a small percentage of your sell to charity automatically and upload your listings to google to gain more exposure for sweet f.a. - how bad eh.

however it has its crude underbelly in fairness