Opinions please

shoutman

Hey guys.

Its not often that these situations arise for me, but afterwards I always end up wondering if i got enough money out of the situation, I decided to have a go preflop for a semi-bluff to continue on the flop.
So as seen i get the nuts on the flop getting a full house. I am always worried about losing players especially hoping someone will hit the flush.

I end up getting about 900 to add to my stack before this hand was played.

Was it enough or should I have raised flop or the turn?

Was the reraise on the river the right size?

I have no real reads on players other then they appear to be decent tight enough players with no real calling stations (surprising enough for a 5+1mtt)


this was a 5+1 mtt (big rake i know)
** Holdem Freezeout:Table 7 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money


It was near enough to the start of the tourney and having not played a hand bar one which i eventually folded
- Captain_Coke sitting in seat 1 with $1680.00 [Dealer]

- BigMentalist sitting in seat 2 with $980.00

- mickjagger1 sitting in seat 3 with $1535.00

- panayz sitting in seat 4 with $2460.00

- andy32 sitting in seat 5 with $1380.00

- -sharkeky- sitting in seat 6 with $2460.00

- dryad1 sitting in seat 7 with $1255.00

- greengiant sitting in seat 8 with $1550.00

- arabs1983 sitting in seat 9 with $1775.00

- shoutman sitting in seat 10 with $1135.00



BigMentalist posted the small blind - $15.00

mickjagger1 posted the big blind - $30.00



** Dealing card to shoutman: Ace of Diamonds, 9 of Clubs

panayz folded

andy32 folded

-sharkeky- folded

dryad1 called - $30.00

greengiant called - $30.00

arabs1983 folded

shoutman raised - $120.00

Captain_Coke folded

BigMentalist called - $120.00

mickjagger1 folded

dryad1 called - $120.00

greengiant called - $120.00



** Dealing the flop: 9 of Spades, Ace of Spades, Ace of Hearts

BigMentalist checked

dryad1 checked

greengiant checked

shoutman checked



** Dealing the turn: Queen of Clubs

BigMentalist checked

dryad1 bet - $90.00

greengiant folded

shoutman called - $90.00

BigMentalist called - $90.00



** Dealing the river: Queen of Spades

BigMentalist checked

dryad1 bet - $120.00

shoutman raised - $400.00

BigMentalist folded

dryad1 called - $400.00

shoutman shows: Ace of Diamonds, 9 of Clubs

dryad1 mucks:

shoutman wins $1580.00 from the main pot



End of game 395962935

Any suggestions are much appreciated

regards
Luke

Legend_DIT

Hey luke, here's my €.02 :

Checking the flop was right move, with that board and last to act if no-one's made any move yet follow suit and hope that the turn improves somone's hand...

when driad made a bet on the turn, 1 player was gone immediately and had you re-raised, I think you might've lost everyone owing to your raise pre-flop. I like the call here.

The 2nd queen is a perfect card for you as long as driad isn't holding pocket Q's he will probably have a weaker full house or a flush. Your raise is a good size for me. with such little info on the table so far, I think it's hard to assess with what sized bet, he would feel it was too much to call. I've ignored mentalists play in this because driad was first to act and it's unlikely he had anything too large, he was merely hangng around until it got too expensive I feel.

Overall I think it was good play, but I don't have online experience and my analysis is probably all wrong! It's a thumbs up from me however.

Norwich Fan Rob

Since the other guy didnt have an ace, u got as much as u were ever gonna get from this. (in fact im surprised u got as much as u did)

Gholimoli

Well I don’t like the pre flop raise, you have position yes but your very likely to get called by an A that has you dominated. I may raise here if my Ax was suited because then I would be doing it for the flush value which if it hits would be the nuts. but with A9 your very likely to loose a big pot if a single A hits unless you post flop play is very good and also your opponents are willing to keep the pot small with a hand like AT or AJ which would still beat you but for less amount.
However back to situation in hand:
The flop check is standard.
But you should raise the turn bet. You have some one betting 120 with one more card to come. Its true that if you raise here the person behind you that is yet to act will prob fold but then again with that kind of board you were not gonna get much out of him anyway. you can make that 120 from the original raiser. if the original raiser has any sort of hand or any sort of draw he will deffo stay for another raise to see the last card but if you wait till the river and he misses his draw ,he is not going to pay you anything on a busted draw. and if you reraise and he folds ,well then you were never gonna get much out of that hand .

Drakar

Completely different question.... I've always avoided games like this (5+1) as the rake is such a high percentage (I play 15+1 turbo on Pokerstars), however I'm wondering if I'm missing something: Perhaps it would be in people's interest to be in games with people who are happy to pay 20% rake. The play would have to be considerably worse, but it'd be interesting as these people may not be quite as grindy as people are in other tournaments...

shoutman

Gholimoli wrote:

Well I don’t like the pre flop raise, you have position yes but your very likely to get called by an A that has you dominated. I may raise here if my Ax was suited because then I would be doing it for the flush value which if it hits would be the nuts. but with A9 your very likely to loose a big pot if a single A hits unless you post flop play is very good and also your opponents are willing to keep the pot small with a hand like AT or AJ which would still beat you but for less amount.
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If you read the start of the post you can see i said i played the hand as a semi bluff not because i think its a premium hand.

As for your other points i think they are very valid thanks for the input


Drakar by turbo do you mean three minute blinds? if so i find that these type of tournements are complete crapshoots.

I had previously played on pokerstars where the rake was .50 cent but i just got pissed off, so far i have found that the level playing at low limits on ladbrokes is just far better then that of pokerstars, and as i dont play online poker purely to make money i am happier getting sucked out less on ladbrokes cause there arent as many all iners on any hand kinda guys

Hectorjelly

You want to get money into the pot and you only have 3 streets - checking that flop is bad play unless the stacks are shallow

shoutman

what sort of a bet would you reccommend hector, if i bet it would probably be two times the big blind, lower then my original bet anyway. I was concerned that if i bet they would automatically put me on an a as i raised preflop

Hectorjelly

shoutman wrote:

what sort of a bet would you reccommend hector, if i bet it would probably be two times the big blind, lower then my original bet anyway. I was concerned that if i bet they would automatically put me on an a as i raised preflop

200 or more depending on how Id been playing recently. If you bet that flop people will assume you dont have an ace.

shoutman

ah right i see where you are going, but i had been playing uber tight up to this point.

Cheers for the advice people