Tunes that rip off other tunes and change the song words

wideangle

Examples would be:
Shikira - underneath your skirt - bangles - eternal flame
Westlife - you lift me up - bet middler - wind beneath my wings
Westlife - number one a few years back at christmas(dont know name)-Wings- mulikintire and (lean on me- been sung by many people)
Goldfrapp - oh la la - goin on up to the spirit in the sky (forget the artist)

Any one else have any..I realise they are not dance tunes, but its basically sampling,more like plagerisum or is it just coinsidental?:cool: Ive checked the sleeves of these singles and there were no samples or co written names mentsioned.

smeggle

Ride on Time - Black Box
Scritti Polliti (That was a classic lmao)

Father Ted and Father Dougal? <- do they count lol

Anima

They're called covers wideangle and of course its all legitamate.

Jay1971

Oasis, any song, any album.

Rip-off - pastiche if you're being polite - of post-Pepper Beatles, The Kinks, 70's Lennon solo material, Amen Corner etc. Some are so blatant it's frightening.

Still, it seems to work for them and their bank accounts and there's clearly a market for it, so fair play to 'em.

Seanie M

wideangle wrote:

Goldfrapp - oh la la - goin on up to the spirit in the sky (forget the artist)

Norman Greenbaum.

wideangle

They are not cover versions,if they were they would give credit to the writer of the song.The next time you hear that westlife crap single,sing the wind beneath my wings and youll see axactly what I mean.

Anima

Jesus Christ I give up.....

:rolleyes:

Hub

This has so much to do with dance/electronic :rolleyes:

smeggle

Hub wrote:

This has so much to do with dance/electronic :rolleyes:

Actually - your quite right (In a sence) it does. Most dance/electronica originated from samples of other peoples music, I think 'Revolver' by the Beatles is one of the most sampled of all time by DJ's and I remember loads of 'Music Politics', (fecking morons), about this way back then.

Anyway I often can pick bits out of tracks, especially intros that you would think are just direct rips sometimes. Heard a track yesterday that I reconised at least three other tracks in it - rarer is that but happens.

Thats not meant to detract from the early tracks in anyway as I've heard this happen across other genres including (Dare I say it?) 'Classical'...

I mean - how many tracks/songs used to use D, G, Em, C chords? If I start somewhere around the 40's - 50's the list would be at least two - three pages, (Or more).

What that has to do with dance/electronica I would think is it gives a deeper understanding of what your doing. It's about the use of sound in different rythmical patterns, wether those sounds be constructed by the user on a synth or a sampler. Technically if I use a sampler and take a segment of sound out of say 'Revolver' and adapt or use that segment in a track then I am plagarising. It's not my sound - I never made it originally so I have to either give credit or ask permission but who ever does?

Find it kinda interesting the argument for and against but I reckon as long as you give credit where credits due then I can't see the problem personally[?] It's the blatant rip offs that get to me

wideangle

The chords u mentsion are one of many three chord tricks,that are well known amongst producers.It has everything to do with dance music as it is at the production stage of a track be it a dance track or not.

Executive Steve

smeggle wrote:

I think 'Revolver' by the Beatles is one of the most sampled of all time by DJ's and I remember loads of 'Music Politics', (fecking morons), about this way back then.

not true... although it WAS one of the first ever pop records to make extensive use of tape loop sampling... the chemical brothers built their career on ripping off "tomorrow never knows"...


most sampled acts include james brown, lynn collins, ike and tina turner and the winstons - the vast majority of 80's hip hop and a large majority of old school breakbeat hardcore and jungle was built on about five or six drum breaks off these old tunes....

the main reason you see tunes with different lyrics but similar cadences to other songs is generally because whatever vocal tyhey originaly wanted to sample was too difficult to clear, so they rewrote the lyrics and got a vocalist to rerecord the sample.

happydude13

Led Zeppelin -- Stairway To Heaven

owes a rather substantial debt to

Spirit - Fresh Garbage.

Altheus

Like that Robbie Williams single that has the chorus just like "Everybody's Free (to feel good)"

eamonhonda

its not ripping off in most case its sampling which is a big part of music anyone into hip hop or dance/house will understand this i hope. I guarantee many of your favourite songs are people 'ripping off' old songs but u may not have heard the old songs in question! they pay for the samples and use them with permission!!

DJ_Spider

One band was the worst - Sigue Sigue Sputnik! :P

Nolanger

Supergrass' "Alright" has the same riff as Billy Idol's "White Wedding"

Nolanger

Nolanger wrote: »

Supergrass' "Alright" has the same riff as Billy Idol's "White Wedding"

And isn't their 'Pumping On Your Stereo' similar to Bowie's 'Rebel Rebel'?

jtsuited

a little more relevant to this forum -

the tracks Rykettid by Trentemoller and Beluga by Gui Boratto are almost identical. It's like one is a cover of the other, right down to the very unique chord structure.

strangely enough they were both released on the same label.

Jay D

what a ridiculous section to post ffs, pop maybe!?

turf

dani california.. best example?

shanethemofo

Anyone hear that new basshunter song? Completely rips off the song "daddy Dj"

Had to Lol that they would bother tbh

NUTZZ

shanethemofo wrote: »

Anyone hear that new basshunter song? Completely rips off the song "daddy Dj"

Had to Lol that they would bother tbh

Basshunter didn't rip off Daddy DJ. Daddy Dj was released in 2000, and Basshunter used a sample (legally!!) from the chorus, as the basis of his song "DotA" and the english version, "All I ever wanted". As for where the melody originally came from, well I'll let you decide, if you type 'pretty rave girl by DJ S3RL into youtube!!

Smegball

Why is this in Dance/Electronic????????

fabbydabby

Go to youtube and listen to Scorpio Rising by Death in Vegas... now listen to Matchstick Men by.. I think it's Status Quo.

Uncanny.

foundry

dani california

Nolanger

Pussycat Dolls' Don't Cha was a rip off of Swass by Sir Mixalot.

BumbleB

DJ_Spider wrote: »

One band was the worst - Sigue Sigue Sputnik! :P

Believe it or not , sigue sigue sputnik was produced by Giorgio Moroder. Who was one hell of a producer .


fresh garbage - spirit http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=F6J-RdkLzd0


pink -feel good http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=TpnjaBbrvdw


exactly the same song .