Mike or Tom....?

Dub13 · 15-12-2005 12:16am #1

Ul....but a good deal.

I think it was Mike...

DeVore · 15-12-2005 12:20am

It was Tom but some of the comments were hilarious.

"I think its Mike now that he's playing better" <-- WHAT?!

DeV.

Dub13 · 15-12-2005 12:30am

I was convinced it was Mike.

Unlucky

DeVore · 15-12-2005 12:37am

Its hilarious to hear these comments... why were you so sure it was Mike?

"Tom wouldnt have that big a stack" was another of my favourites.

DeV.

Shortstack · 15-12-2005 12:49am

They probably thought it was me as a bubble finish was coming....

Well done Len, hopefully I will be playing against you! There can't be that many players with an English passport signed up to paddy power. Mind you if it was just me playing I would find a way to bubble

DeVore · 15-12-2005 12:50am

That teddy is a fúckin animal player!

DeV.
ps: Karl any chance of getting the transcript for that tourney, some of the comments were class!

karlh · 15-12-2005 12:33pm

shouldnt be a problem

at one stage you said you were mike! that's where i got confused!

always had faith in you Tom.

so explain the headsup match to me....

DeVore · 15-12-2005 12:44pm

I don't recall saying I was Mike but its possible, given Mike and I have (or at least are perceived to have) very different styles, its good to keep the opponents guessing

Headsup... online.... whats to explain. I picked the wrong hand(s) to get clever with and it came up tails.

DeV.

PPP-Pit Boss · 15-12-2005 12:52pm

Just to dispell any myths surrounding Len's nationality he qualifies for the Irish team as he holds an Irish Passpot. And of course won the tournament (that helps)

karlh · 15-12-2005 1:00pm

DeVore wrote:

I don't recall saying I was Mike but its possible, given Mike and I have (or at least are perceived to have) very different styles, its good to keep the opponents guessing

Headsup... online.... whats to explain. I picked the wrong hand(s) to get clever with and it came up tails.

DeV.

i was very tired and watching you while in bed (hope that makes you feel wired) but it seemed that once the deal was struck with equal stacks you were both all in preflop within a few hands, you calling with A2!?

i expected a long headsup match tbh

so Len is confirmed and you'll be there anyway to keep an eye on your 30% among other things. i have a feeling you'll make it onto the team somehow!

*cut to tom dropping something into Andy Black's camomile tea*

DeVore · 15-12-2005 1:16pm

The last hand is haunting me a little. Obviously I did do something wrong but here was the thinking behind it.

Firstly I play tight generally, but heads up thats not such a good idea! I knew Len knew it was me but I put a little doubt into his head with some well timed moves on his blinds when we were short handed.

We'd made a deal but that didnt really affect the way I played the hand.

I smooth called and Len raised me to 3000ish. I reraised to imply a monster. Unfortunately I reraise the wrong amount and put 9000 MORE on top rather then making it 9000. Len thought about it for a good while then put me in with A8. Now, at this point I've put him on A8-J or a middling pair though I feel he has AT or some such.

I have 20k left and the pot stands at 46kish (I'm recalling this from memory here, but I think this is accurate).

I figured given the swings and roundabouts that I had a 30% shot at the pot. So, its on the edge but I also thought Len might be pushing me around (he was the more aggressive headsup). Considering that I will only have 20k to his 70+ if I fold and I made a crying-call.
I played poorly headsup but other then that I'm happy with my play lately.
Considering Limerick, SSF and now this game... 1,2,2 aint a bad record for my last few games.
Considering we have the SE 500 coming up and PE's 350 in Galway next week, I'm going in feeling confident.

DeV.

Hectorjelly · 15-12-2005 1:54pm

What cards did you have? What were the blinds?

karlh · 15-12-2005 2:29pm

afaik blinds were 800/1500 and they were evenly stacked on 45k each!?

youre results recently speak for themselves tom. just interested i nthe hand. remember you saying headsup was just a crapshoot and it leading to that series with spiritus.

Dub13 · 15-12-2005 2:35pm

DeVore wrote:

Its hilarious to hear these comments... why were you so sure it was Mike?

Mike said something last week on a thread,something about transferring cash to PP to try and qualify for something.

I put 2 and 2 together and got 8.:o

DeVore wrote:

"Tom wouldnt have that big a stack" was another of my favourites.

That was also me...:D I also said "we will find out who it is when they bubble.."I hope I did not jinx you.

Fatboydim · 15-12-2005 4:06pm

Hand history below..... I figured the chances were that I had the best hand. But that if Tom had a better hand than me IE: AK AQ AJ it would still be worth the all in... as if I lost I'd have 42k in chips approx to Tom's 68K. So it was almost a free go to knock him out. And there was a good chance he would fold of course.

At the stage we made our deal we were both even in chips - I think there is skill in heads up play for sure... but the luck element is huge.

MTT Table 1 5883495-164 Holdem No Limit 600/1,200
[Dec 15 00:15:53] : Hand Start.
[Dec 15 00:15:53] : Seat 2 : Lenco has $75,960
[Dec 15 00:15:53] : Seat 4 : Antesup has $34,040
[Dec 15 00:15:53] : Antesup is the dealer.
[Dec 15 00:15:53] : Antesup posted small blind.
[Dec 15 00:15:53] : Lenco posted big blind.
[Dec 15 00:15:53] : Seat 2 : Lenco has Ad 8h
[Dec 15 00:15:58] : Antesup called 600
[Dec 15 00:16:01] : Lenco raised 2,400
[Dec 15 00:16:04] : Antesup called 2,400 and raised 9,600
[Dec 15 00:16:13] : Lenco called 9,600 and raised 62,760 and is All-in
[Dec 15 00:16:29] : Antesup called 20,840 and is All-in
[Dec 15 00:16:29] : Showdown!
[Dec 15 00:16:29] : Seat 2 : Lenco has Ad 8h
[Dec 15 00:16:31] : Seat 4 : Antesup has 2d Ac
[Dec 15 00:16:40] : Board cards [9d 8d 2c Qd 3s]
[Dec 15 00:16:40] : Seat 2 : Lenco has Ad 8h
[Dec 15 00:16:40] : Lenco has Pair: 8s
[Dec 15 00:16:40] : Seat 4 : Antesup has 2d Ac
[Dec 15 00:16:40] : Antesup has Pair: 2s

Dub13 · 15-12-2005 9:47pm

did you get the transcript yet...?

DeVore · 15-12-2005 10:33pm

>[Dec 15 00:16:04] : Antesup called 2,400 and raised 9,600

That should have read Antesup calls 2,400 and raises 7,200. which would have left me with about 23k rather then 20k and I might well have dropped the hand. Ancient history now though. On the plus side Amp reckoned I didnt seem to pissed off about missing it (he's wrong I'm gutted, absolutely gutted) but the fact is that last year I won and won and won and this year I'd won feck all up to Limerick and my game sucked.

It wasnt bad luck (or I'd have been on here complaining about it lol), I just wasnt playing, I mean really concentrating or being a problem to others on the table.
As Daithio put it to me "I used to fear you on the tables and I don't any more". So right now, gutted as I am, I'm still glad to have the recent return to last years form, especially going into the xmas tournies and there are still chances left for a ticket so we'll see if I can't win one but no doubting that that was a wasted opportunity (apart from the 30%... which may yet become my biggest payday!)

Len, the payout for the MTT is
50k
30k
20k as far as I know.

The winning team gets 110K between them so if you win and Ireland wins, thats 160k. Or 48k for me.

Yeah, that would do fine Len. No cheques, just grubby 50's please. *cough*

DeV.

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