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a photograph i took

  • 10-12-2005 11:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭


    some fantastic light in dublin the past month, wa down on the beach around 10:30am this morning, got this, any opinions on it?

    1965.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭conorgriff


    Hey dot org, nice pic although Do you not think the exposure is a little off? It's over exposed in the centre of the sky and a couple of other patches and a little under exposed in the lower corners. Maybe that was the intention for some effect. I have limited knowledge but I suppose I'm just giving an opinion

    What lens did you use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭DotOrg


    shooting directly into a low sun will always produced some area that is over or underexposed.

    a large print shows that it's not actually overexposed apart fom where the sun is in the sky. computer monitors are all calibrated differently and generally very differently than what prints turn out like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭kjt


    Lovely picture, I really like it. The DOF on the pic is
    amazing. Its sort of a mystery/heavenly picture. I
    agree with Conor a little bit, Its only really noticable
    to me in the very middle of the pic. The extreme white
    in the sky. Then again, if that wasnt there it could look
    quite dull. :)

    Nice job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭conorgriff


    yeah that's fair enough, figured it might be the monitor cause I'm not on my own pc. What lens did you use, the wideangle really suits the photo. Nice perspective


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭larryone


    If I was in the advertising department for Guinness, I would buy that photograph from you. Looks like something they would use =0)
    I think it looks great (but being a n00b I know nothing about overexposure (apart from the obvious))


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    I love it, the clouds to the right are amazing.

    What Camera and Lens did you use and what changes did you do after?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    kjt wrote:
    The DOF on the pic is
    amazing.

    Is it just me, or is the DOF large in that image, meaning that everything is in focus, meaning that there effectively really isn't any DOF?

    S.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭conorgriff


    yeah the dof is huge
    prob a typo - or misunderstood term


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 896 ✭✭✭Subliminal


    excellent pic dotorg, i think larryone is right, its making me want a pint right now! Im only learning, but was wondering

    A: What camera did you use?

    B: Did you take it in b&w, or in colour and make it b&w in photoshop etc?

    C: Did you use a polarising lens to help the reflections?

    Great pic, really like it.

    Sub


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    Personally, I'm not too keen on the photo. The difference in exposure is too great for my liking. I personally would probably have just concentrated on the water and left the sky out of the frame completely - it wrecks the exposure and the water is a lot more interesting anyway.

    The histogram on that image is weird too - was that a case of photoshop > Auto Levels and Auto Contrast?

    S.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭conorgriff


    well I would think the histogram just shows that the exposure was bad apart from the narrow spike in the middle which is unusual, but an equally dramatic shot would have been possible without the exposure problems from a different angle I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭kjt


    sinecurea wrote:
    Is it just me, or is the DOF large in that image, meaning that everything is in focus, meaning that there effectively really isn't any DOF?

    S.
    What I meant was that there's alot of dept within the pic..........
    Wrong use of dof?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    The depth of focus is the "range" of focus within an image. In DotOrg's photograph, pretty much everything is in focus, which means there is a large DOF.
    If you take this image from me (please ignore the watermark - I'm trying to change those) you'll see what I'm talking about.
    Only one part of the subject is in focus - which means there is only a small range of the image in focus - which is a small depth of focus.
    So in a small DOF, only a small part of the image has a sharp focus, in a large DOF you can see everything clearly.

    I hope this helps clear things up :)

    S.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭DotOrg


    the part of the sky that is white is the sun, so yes, the sun is overexposed, impossible not to

    large dof from my canon 10-22mm lens used on my canon 20D

    i did several changes to colour, then made a duplicate layer, converted it to B&W using curves in photoshop, then blended the B&W layer into the colour layer using multipy

    then merged the layers and converted the whole image to B&W using curves again

    I cropped off a lot of the foreground as it was so dark it wasn't adding anything to the shot and the square format was trying (poorly) to emulate a MF camera


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭alb


    DotOrg wrote:
    the part of the sky that is white is the sun, so yes, the sun is overexposed, impossible not to

    A graduated ND filter would help lessen it a bit.

    Also in reference to what other people have said about DOF, it's a great DOF in this pic because it's so big. It's in focus from the immediate foreground all the way back. A great DOF can be a very large DOF or a small DOF depending on the picture in question so it can be a bit confusing I guess :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭King Eric


    Hey DotOrg, out of interest, any chance cud you post the original photo before it was photoshopped, just to see the difference


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Nice shot, very nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,889 ✭✭✭Third_Echelon


    Really like the pic...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    DotOrg wrote:

    large dof from my canon 10-22mm lens used on my canon 20D

    Nice, How do you find that lense? Im looking to get it when I get my 350D. How much was it and what are the good bad points? I would love the canon, but I may only be able to afford the Sigma version.

    S.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Great, Great Photo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭DotOrg


    i love the canon 10-22mm lens. bad points are the price and it doesn't have a wide enough aperture for low light photography, everything else about it is superb

    i can post the original shot but i shot it in raw format so i still have to decide on what parameters to apply to it like white balance etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭DotOrg


    1/400th
    f10
    iso 200
    10mm lens
    shutter priority

    below is the raw image with no parameters touched at all
    i might play around with it again and do lots of burning and dodging to get exposure more even throughout


    IMG_1965.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭DotOrg


    i wasn't actually out there to shoot the scenery, was shooting a band, this is one quick edit of the band out there

    1979.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    WOW. Very nice shot.

    S.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭Valentia


    The first pic reminded me of another one I came across on Trekearth the other day http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/France/photo283724.htm

    I have no problem with the exposure but, unlike your second pic, it lacks a focal point. I like your PP work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭Flipflip


    Unusually, I think the under and over exposure really sits well in this pic.

    Especially the underexposure in the low corners, it just suits the pic nicely, keeps your attention on the main part of the pic.

    And yeah, the DOF is ****ing unreal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭DotOrg


    with a 10mm lens, the problem with dof is that you can't get shallow depth of field, if you want something sharp and the background out of focus, it just ain't gonna happen when shooting that wide


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