Watch out... technophobe about... help re:satellite

slightlytoasted

My virgin post.

Any help regarding the following is much appreciated:

I need to recieve live pictures (apologies for being cryptic), and I was told that I would need the following...

- 150 cm sattelite dish, that I could line-up with
- Intelsat 603
- Also a 4.2.2 receiver (or was it 4.1.1?)

Living just outside Dublin, is it possible to get the above set-up??? Where would I go to get it???

Once again, apologies for the rookie questions... as the title of the thread states... I'm a technophobe... but learning;) Gonna get my Atari 2600 out of it's box soon

watty

It would be the 422

Tricky as that is professional gear.
I'm not sure if a Skystar2 in a PC with ProgDVB if it does 422 with a plug in?

with a 1.5m you also need very strong pole and concrete.

This isn't going to be cheap.

slightlytoasted

Thanks for the info watty, appreciate it.

Sounds like a big job, but for what I need it for it would be worth it.

Any other input/views welcome

Thanks again.

watty

I think www.satellite.ie has only up to 1.1m dish, but if he has a 1.4m dish it might do.

He does do installs, but I don't thing he has a receiver that does 422

You can google for the receiver, but the dish is best bought local as the wieght puts up mailorder cost a lot.

A hole with at least a couple of tons of concrete.

At least a 2" heavy wall steel pipe. Mount dish close to ground to avoid wind torque.

I think with 60 Mph gust of wind the loading on a 1.5m dish can be several tons

This chart seems optimistic:
http://www.antennasystems.com/windchart.html

This one is in Newtons (force from wind)
http://www.ok1dfc.com/EME/Technic/wind%20load.htm

slightlytoasted

Thanks a million watty for all your help.

I am starting to make some progress into this project.

Much appreciated.

BrianD

Oh don't be cryptic, what's it for?

slightlytoasted

LOL, don't mean to be too cryptic BrianD... it's just that not many people can relate to it... it's to do with Betfair and live pictures (if you know what I mean).

Zaphod

slightlytoasted wrote:

My virgin post.

Any help regarding the following is much appreciated:

I need to recieve live pictures (apologies for being cryptic), and I was told that I would need the following...

An interesting 'virgin post'. I'm guessing some malarkey with horse racing & betting? You'd wanted to be sure those feeds aren't encrypted, as well as being in 4.2.2, before coughing out money. If it's just live news feeds you're after (ITV, BBC) you're fine.

slightlytoasted wrote:

- 150 cm sattelite dish, that I could line-up with
- Intelsat 603
- Also a 4.2.2 receiver (or was it 4.1.1?)

Wyzcom have 160cm for €290.
http://www.wyzcom.com/retail/satellite/viking.html

Mapling have a 180cm for €115 but it's sectional and prime focus which adds some complications.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=292698&highlight=fortec

Intelsat 603 is in inclined orbit meaning that, unlike the Astra satellites from where Sky transmits, it doesn't stay in the one spot but drifts in a figure of 8 fashion. So if your dish is fixed, it will only be able to see the sat for a few hours every day. If you want to have continual reception, you'll need to install an elevation actuator which moves the dish up and down in tandem with the sat. Alt. a cheap and dirty solution is to put a small motor onto the feedhorn instead and move that up and down.

For 4.2.2 reception, the cheapest method by far is, as Watty has mentioned, a Skystar 2 PCI DVB card, a decent PC (>1GHz CPU) and ProgDVB which has the requisite Elecard codec included as standard.

Alt., more expensive (~€500) is the QualiTV QS1080 which is a HDTV receiver primarily, but also does 4:2:2.
http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/hdtv.htm

slightlytoasted

Great post Zaphod... on the button.

Correct, it has to do with live pictures and real-time racing on the exchanges.

A couple of traders I know have the set-up (one in the U.K. and one in Holland), and it works for them.

What you have said about the Intelsat 603 drifting rings true, as I was told that the satellite would have to be "moved".

Excellent replies and very informative... if it wasn't for this forum, I'd still be scratching my head thrawling through google.

Not as expensive as I first expected either.

mjsmyth

sooooo emmmmmmmm............. you gonna give us some tips? Have paddypower a/c, will gamble!!

MJ

watty

It will just be the same pic as inside the offices.

Very little is unencrypted. There is often clear greyhound racing betting feed on 16E.

slightlytoasted

Exactly the same pictures.

Bookies pay £13k per year for it, and there is a 4 second (approx) advantage over ATR pictures.

Sponge Bob

better make sure you don't get an IBB broadband connection if you wish to arbritage that 4 second lead time then

watty

Yep pings on IBB 200 meters from Clarion were 150ms this afternoon with 50% timeout!