Security Guard-ai???

xzanti · 08-12-2005 9:20am #1

Iv seen this a lot lately... I find it quite funny actually, security guards are dressing more and more like the actual Gardai, not just their attire but their cars... The first time I saw it was about a year ago, a fiesta with an illumius green stripe down the side of it pulled up along side me and for a second I actually mistook it for a Garda car.. Yesterday on my way home I saw something similar but now they actually have sirens on the roof???

WTF does a security guard want with a siren?? Its not like they're exempt from having to obey traffic lights??? Is it just a gimmick or what??

Red Alert · 08-12-2005 9:26am

the worst is when these trappings get the guys jumped up so they think they can do whatever they want. i really don't like the security guards in the new dundrum shopping centre. they seem like a pack of **** who are playing at being cops. they are unhelpful, rude and think they're running some sort of military airport.

RedRaven · 08-12-2005 9:36am

Red Alert wrote:

the worst is when these trappings get the guys jumped up so they think they can do whatever they want. i really don't like the security guards in the new dundrum shopping centre. they seem like a pack of **** who are playing at being cops. they are unhelpful, rude and think they're running some sort of military airport.

Yeah I noticed this a couple of years ago, I think the whole reason for the cars etc looking like Gardai ones is for the benifit of drunk people and the like...unless you are 100% on the ball it would be hard to tell the difference if your drunk as F**K!!

joejoem · 08-12-2005 9:39am

Have you ever seen the gimps in UCD? I was a member of the gym there for 6 months and those guys are OTT. If you stand at your car too long they come over and ask you to move on. Honestly, while talking to someone on a Saturday afternoon in the gym car park I was asked to move on..... Anywhere remotly busy you will see them in there half garda/half centra uniform walking right over to groups "Steaking them out" waiting for something wrong, its like something out of a comedy. Like a whole task force of Deputy Duey ala scream

RainyDay · 08-12-2005 9:44am

Red Alert wrote:

i really don't like the security guards in the new dundrum shopping centre. they seem like a pack of **** who are playing at being cops. they are unhelpful, rude and think they're running some sort of military airport.

I spotted them stopping a group of teenage Spanish students from taking photo's of each other the other day in Dundrum. Though it has to be said, the guy did it in a polite, friendly manner.

stevenmu · 08-12-2005 9:50am

It's a psychological trick to get people to think they actually have some kind of authority, which they almost never do.

joejoem · 08-12-2005 9:51am

RainyDay wrote:

I spotted them stopping a group of teenage Spanish students from taking photo's of each other the other day in Dundrum. Though it has to be said, the guy did it in a polite, friendly manner.

For the purpose of mational security? Is Dundrum really a nulclear weapons factory?

Dyr · 08-12-2005 9:59am

tbh i think its the opposite thats happening, cops uniforms are looking more and more like security gaurds. God be with the days when coppers dressed in semi- military uniforms. You knew where ye stood then, not like the friendly lite blue crap they wear now. They'll be in garda trackies next

:v: <sure its no wonder kids these days have no respect

robinph · 08-12-2005 10:07am

xzanti wrote:

Yesterday on my way home I saw something similar but now they actually have sirens on the roof??? WTF does a security guard want with a siren?? Its not like they're exempt from having to obey traffic lights??? Is it just a gimmick or what??

And the Guardi are not exempt from the traffic laws either and are liable to get charged with driving offences if they break a red light or speed and cause an accident during a chase for example.

xzanti · 08-12-2005 10:18am

Bambi wrote:

tbh i think its the opposite thats happening, cops uniforms are looking more and more like security gaurds. God be with the days when coppers dressed in semi- military uniforms. You knew where ye stood then, not like the friendly lite blue crap they wear now. They'll be in garda trackies next

Well thats true also... Its a b*tch really cause you used to be able to see them a mile off.. Now you could be beltin through the lights and there they are.. In there little navy jump suits looking at you Oooooops

ronbyrne2005 · 08-12-2005 10:25am

ever see the security guy in "naked camera" on rte???? very funny, or dom jolies security guy LOL
in new zealands capital christchurch they employ private security companies to police the city centre,saw a documentary on it, they have nearly all the powers of regular police,i dont wanna see our police going down the privatised route but judging by the performance of the gardai lately they couldnt be much worse

Dyr · 08-12-2005 10:44am

robinph wrote:

And the Guardi are not exempt from the traffic laws either and are liable to get charged with driving offences if they break a red light or speed and cause an accident during a chase for example.

That would be why gardai who plough into bus stops and kill some poor old dear can expect to be charged for it just like joe public...

:v: < that bus stop was resisting arrest and you know it!

joejoem · 08-12-2005 11:06am

I keep thinking the title of this thread (Security Guard-ai???) is Security Guard-artificial intelligance???

I'm dissapointed each time that its not this security guard

xzanti · 08-12-2005 11:08am

joejoem wrote:

I keep thinking the title of this thread (Security Guard-ai???) is Security Guard-artificial intelligance???

I'm dissapointed each time that its not this security guard

Well Im terribly sorry if one is disappointed... I shall endevour to post more little robots to keep one amused in the future...

Sparky · 08-12-2005 11:12am

RainyDay wrote:

I spotted them stopping a group of teenage Spanish students from taking photo's of each other the other day in Dundrum. Though it has to be said, the guy did it in a polite, friendly manner.

yeah you need a permit for that.

joejoem · 08-12-2005 11:20am

xzanti wrote:

Well Im terribly sorry if one is disappointed... I shall endevour to post more little robots to keep one amused in the future...

Your kindness and consideration will not be forgotten. I hear the robot rabbit is all the rage with young women these days, might be a good discussion topic....

xzanti · 08-12-2005 11:23am

joejoem wrote:

Your kindness and consideration will not be forgotten. I hear the robot rabbit is all the rage with young women these days, might be a good discussion topic....

No I think its the rampant rabbit your thinking of.. Nothing whatsoever to do with Security... at all...

Dyr · 08-12-2005 11:27am

joejoem wrote:

I keep thinking the title of this thread (Security Guard-ai???) is Security Guard-artificial intelligance???

I'm dissapointed each time that its not this security guard

hmm..if them yokes are made in hong kong then it might explain where those 700 chinese gardai are coming from

:v: <can they program it with a culchie accent but?

joejoem · 08-12-2005 11:51am

Bambi wrote:

:v: <can they program it with a culchie accent but?

lol

xzanti wrote:

No I think its the rampant rabbit your thinking of.. Nothing whatsoever to do with Security... at all...

Is he any relation to the duracell bunny? I hear he can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on..........

xzanti · 08-12-2005 12:28pm

joejoem wrote:

lol

Is he any relation to the duracell bunny? I hear he can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on..........

I think hes a second cousin if Im not mistaken

Evac101 · 08-12-2005 1:28pm

joejoem wrote:

Have you ever seen the gimps in UCD? I was a member of the gym there for 6 months and those guys are OTT. etc etc etc

Having done that job 4 years ago (ish) while the IT Crash was making my life a misery I can assure you that the security guards dislike talking to the people in UCD just as much as you dislike them talking to you ;P

However.... they are under orders regarding behaviour that UCD considers unacceptable or to be discouraged and, on the majority of the campus, in view of security camera's which may or may not be supervising them at the time. If you have a problem with their behaviour, take it up with UCD - thats where the orders come from

funk-you · 09-12-2005 1:46am

rent-a-cops tbh, they have sweet fa more powers than you or i. more of a deterrant than anything else.

"move along there please"
"NO"
"ehh......i'm off to call the real guards "

Must be a fairly sucky job to have to do though but going on power trips is ridiculous.

ek942 · 09-12-2005 4:17am

Sparky-s wrote:

yeah you need a permit for that.

You need a permit to take pictures of teenage spanish students? Well I'm not going to start paying for something that i've been doing for free for years.

The Real B-man · 09-12-2005 4:51am

They cant legally have sirens(except on private property) on there cars they can however have lights except blue ones as is the norm for the emergency/voluntary services they cant go threw red lights either

secuirity guards are just cop wannabes:rolleyes:

Our man in Havana · 09-12-2005 7:31am

The Real B-man wrote:

secuirity guards are just cop wannabes:rolleyes:

Or Templemore rejects.

Ruaidhri · 09-12-2005 8:57am

Bond-007 wrote:

Or Templemore rejects.

You're thinking of bouncers :v:

Evac101 · 09-12-2005 9:17am

Or people who take the job to pay the bills. Your attitudes folks seem to be, in the main, very snobbish about this profession/job/whatever. Guess web egalitarianism is a myth? Surprise, surprise.

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Though Xzanti's post below makes me realise I may be a little touchy regarding this

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xzanti · 09-12-2005 10:02am

Evac101 wrote:

Or people who take the job to pay the bills. Your attitudes folks seem to be, in the main, very snobbish about this profession/job/whatever. Guess web egalitarianism is a myth? Surprise, surprise.

Well the thread was originally about the fact that they're attire and transport seems to be morphing slowly into that of the Gardai... With regards to the personality of each individual member of the profession I suppose everyone is different and there are always those who will abuse their position, I personally know a few security guards and like you said they only do it to pay the bills and are the nicest people you could meet IMO...

magpie · 09-12-2005 10:53am

TCD Security are particularly egregious offenders in the "Dress Like a Real Rozzer" stakes.

Incidentally, I always thought Impersonating a Police Officer was a criminal offence?

Riamfada · 09-12-2005 3:16pm

Im a part-time security guard and I dont like any of the people I meet. Mostly rich little drunky daddy boys who think they are hard. Its funny cause when you do get hastle , those people wait till they are at least 7 foot away before calling you whatever , then high fiving all their mates. Its a job I do to get me through college. Im not a wannabe anything and the people I work with are more in league with gangland bosses then the gardai.

Just cause some of you wern't let into a club once in your lives for no reason means you feel big about coming online and slagging off security like the men you are?

One more thing: the bloke in the uniform dosnt want to dress like that, Its the COMPANY UNIFORM you tits not the man waring it. Morons.

oq4v3ht0u76kf2 · 09-12-2005 3:32pm

Grimes wrote:

*blah blah blah* Morans.

I never do this... but the irony here is so strong.

Riamfada · 09-12-2005 3:39pm

Sorry . I find it hard to type because im actually and southern hick. Now woo me my intellectual better.

As for powers. You can be refused entry
Put out of a building
If you raise a fist to security hes legally entitled to do what he wants once you dont die
He is there to call restrain a suspect if needs be while the gardai come

oq4v3ht0u76kf2 · 09-12-2005 3:46pm

Chillax man, just found it funny... couldn't give a **** how smart you are, the irony in your post was amazing!

bounty · 09-12-2005 4:07pm

grimes has got a chip on his shoulder

ive never had a bad experience with a security guard, id probably just ignore them if they didnt show respect

and who cares what they wear, its irrelevant

Red Alert · 09-12-2005 4:52pm

a permit? who do the centre think they are?

Riamfada · 09-12-2005 5:06pm

bounty wrote:

grimes has got a chip on his shoulder

I actually do. And Im sorry. Its a job where you are spoken down to by so many people. And I find its the well to do crowd that really treat you bad. Cursing at you and ignoring you. Its a tough job and it aint nice

StupidLikeAFox · 09-12-2005 5:16pm

Security guards arent there to be nice. Personally if i was a security guard i would adopt an attitude of being a prick for my working hours, esp. a bouncer in a nightclub. They are doing a job and have to be alert at all times. Who cares if they are being ignorant, you could be glad of them if some knacker pulls on you.

Security Guard-ai???

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