sky multiroom

Creamy Goodness

how's it going?

i have sky (full package the one with sports and movies) in the living room and now the parents want to put it into three more rooms.

i don't know if this is possible but from my knowledge this would cost
€15 x 3 per month plus the cost of the three extra boxes.

i was thinking if they wanted to go ahead with this that i'd get sky+ so to avail of it's glory.

can 4 boxes be connected to a dish? i know i'd have to get a Multi LNB.

also i doubt sky would be the best installer as they'd rape me for installation charges. Can independent installers carry out this work and give the mirror subscriptions aswell?

Heinz

You'd need 2 LNB feeds for the Sky+ and 3 more for the other boxes - so you'd need an octo LNB).

Sandals

You'd need 3 LNB feeds for the Sky+ and 4 more for the other boxes - so you'd need an octo LNB)

Sandals

fancy the chances we posted at the same tiem, your advice is wrong though its 3 and 4 not 2 and 3

Creamy Goodness

just looking at this page

so say if i wanted to get sky+160 and two more ordinary sky+ boxes it would cost

299 for sky+160
069 for sky+
069 for sky+

so it's 437 for the boxes one off payment (i hope ) and then 45 extra on top of my sub which i think is 62.50.

webbie

Sandals wrote:

fancy the chances we posted at the same tiem, your advice is wrong though its 3 and 4 not 2 and 3

Sandals I'm afraid your the one who is wrong. Sky+ only needs 2 feeds and assuming the Sky+ is one of the 4 boxes then it is 2 (for Sky+) and 3 (for the other 3 boxes).

Creamy Goodness

ohh i didn't realise that sky+ needed 2 feeds (i'm presuming one up one down) to the LNB.

i'll probably go for only one sky+ box then

Charlie

Sandals wrote:

fancy the chances we posted at the same tiem, your advice is wrong though its 3 and 4 not 2 and 3

I'm afraid you're wrong, a sky+ box only needs 2 feeds and a standard box only needs one. If you wanted 1 sky+ box and 3 standard boxes in your house, that would require 5 feeds. As a sky dish only has a quad lnb on it this would require a second dish, something which would be preety expensive and pretty hard to get off sky.

Creamy Goodness

so the most i could get off sky would be one sky+ box and two standard boxes?

Sandals

yup

webbie

charlie mchugh wrote:

As a sky dish only has a quad lnb on it this would require a second dish, something which would be preety expensive and pretty hard to get off sky.

Not true you can get an octo LNB which would support 8 feeds from a single dish. See link in first couple of posts in this thread.

webbie

Cremo wrote:

ohh i didn't realise that sky+ needed 2 feeds (i'm presuming one up one down) to the LNB.

i'll probably go for only one sky+ box then

You presumation is not correct, the two feeds is what provides the capability to view one channel while another is recording another (or to record two channels at the same time).

Charlie

webbie wrote:

Not true you can get an octo LNB which would support 8 feeds from a single dish. See link in first couple of posts in this thread.

Whilst that is true, i'm referring to sky dishes, so even if you fixed an octo on the dish, as stated in their own terms & conditions, the max amount of feeds one house can have is four so an octo would be pretty useless with sky digital.

stoneygossard

Guys,

You can get a "poly-LNB" which will run up to 12 feeds from one dish. Sky are now offering a package called "Pretty Polly" and they will allow you to connect up to 10 feeds into your home.

Stoney

watty

Neither Google nor the Sky site have any reference to Sky Poly packages.

Reference link?

Nor is there a "poly LNB". Reference link?

If you have a 4way or Quad lnb you can have as many feeds as you like using a distributon system.. 100s of feeds.

You can have
* As many FTA receivers as you like
* AFAIK As many FULL subscriptions as you like. Just the reduced price multiroom with phone line validation is limited.

You can feed an entire block of apartments or Hotel with a single dish. Only 4 LNB connections needed.

watty

Cremo wrote:

so the most i could get off sky would be one sky+ box and two standard boxes?

On reduced mirror sub.

You can get more paying full price.

legend99

just out of general interest how does that work?? 4 feeds I thought couldn't supply more than 4 different channels no matter what???

watty wrote:

Neither Google nor the Sky site have any reference to Sky Poly packages.

Reference link?

Nor is there a "poly LNB". Reference link?

If you have a 4way or Quad lnb you can have as many feeds as you like using a distributon system.. 100s of feeds.

You can have
* As many FTA receivers as you like
* AFAIK As many FULL subscriptions as you like. Just the reduced price multiroom with phone line validation is limited.

You can feed an entire block of apartments or Hotel with a single dish. Only 4 LNB connections needed.

Tony

legend99 wrote:

just out of general interest how does that work?? 4 feeds I thought couldn't supply more than 4 different channels no matter what???

up to now yes but this new lnb mentioned seems to do something differently, I've not seen one yet so I've really no idea how it works but I'm guessing its a quattro with a some kind of multiswitch built in. Anyone found a link for this poly lnb yet?

watty

legend99 wrote:

just out of general interest how does that work?? 4 feeds I thought couldn't supply more than 4 different channels no matter what???

If each of the four feeds is one of the four possible feeds (always true with a Quattro), the the distribution amps / switches etc in an apartment /hotel distribution sysetm each get all four signals (four coax). The distribution multiswitch feeding each Digibox simulates an LNB feeding one of the four unique feeds.

Some distribution systems can program a Quad and use it as a Quattro
A = Hor + "Low band"
B = Hor + "high band"
C= Vert + "Low band
D = Vert + "high band"

Are the all the signalls to get ALL the channels from a dish.

byte

http://www.wizardsatellite.co.uk/new_product-inverto_unicable_legacy_lnb__2db___3_splitters~pd10410--0.html

I wonder if that's the device there?

A PDF:
http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/bd/10465.pdf

Tony

looks like it uses freq shift technology

byte

Yeah, I wonder how reliable it would be?

watty

Ah.. This single cable device solves the Bandwidth issue of a Stacker.

The single cable does NOT have all the channels on the dish.

It would not be a good solution to Hotel / Apartment where the traditional system has ALL the channels on each outlet.

The single cable has only the actual channels wanted by the 4 or 8 (or whatever) compatible tuners.

Since the cable has the slection of frequency shifted channels (selected remotely by the tuner heads) ordinary cable TV style splitters that work to 2GHZ can split the signal to up to 4 boxes.

The cable does not have H/V or low/high band 22KHz signalling. It does have a signal sent from each tuner head to the single cable LNB (or adaptor on a Quattro or Quad is possible) to remotely select which channel is sent.

Cable length ought to be the same as normal.

It is kind of like 4 to 8 remote controlled tuners, each with a modulator on a different output channel.

The limit to number of receivers is likely 28 and number of PVRs 14 with this technology. Normally I'd guess you get a single cable LNB with 4, 8 or 12 "selectors" built in. (Up to 6 x Sky+ or 4 Sky+ and 4 regular Sky).

Larger distribution systems will still need the traditional system. Which will now need a different adaptor to feed the single cable twin tuner PVRS.