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pointless word

  • 03-12-2005 5:19pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭


    Is instantaneous a pointless word?

    Is there a marked difference between "The results were instant" and "The results were instantaneous"?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    ullu wrote:
    Is instantaneous a pointless word?
    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭ullu


    Ok, what's the difference between the two examples i gave then?


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    using instant in that sentence is gramattically wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭ullu


    Thanks, why is that?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    no it's not,
    ullu, there is either no difference between the words in some contexts like awesome and brilliant but in cases they are used differently.
    Instantaneous Speed - speed at any given instant in time.
    If something happens instantly it happens immediately. If something happens instantaneously it also happens immediately but at the same time very quickly. Instantaneous and instantaneously are used only in a restricted range of contexts:
    * The Beatles songs are instantly recognisable - everybody seems to know them.
    * When I saw Barbara crying I knew instantly what was wrong.
    * Death was instantaneous for all the people in the car when the bomb exploded.
    * The airbags for the driver and front seat passenger inflate instantaneously on impact in a
    head-on collision.


    get the difference?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    not sure you can use the verb "to be" with instant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭ullu


    Thanks Tar, the reason I wondered is because instantaneous is a direct derivative of instant. Obviously "The results were instant" and "The results were immediate" have the same meaning but are independent words. It just struck me that instantaneous (rightly or wrongly) was a needless derivative with the exact same meaning.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ullu wrote:
    Is instantaneous a pointless word?
    Doubleplusquick is an unword.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    RuggieBear is right. Fowler's Usage (my own copy, not online) says so...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    I would say myself that the main difference is that "instantaneous" usually implies that another action took place at the same time e.g.

    "He shot himself in the head...death was instantaneous" In other words occurred at the same time as he popped a cap in himself..

    "The air bag inflated instantaneously...(when the car hit the wall)

    "Instant" doesn't seem to convey the presence of another action....


    Ah .. Its good enough for me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    ullu wrote:
    "The results were instant"
    Is instant is a noun in this sentence? I find it uncomfortable to say.

    I would say "The results were immediate" or "We got instant results".


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