Canon EOS-300D help

Subliminal

Hi all, need help quick!

I currently have a sony dsv f505v digicam, but i have been given the offer off a friend, for a Canon EOS 300D for 100 Euro. If i bought this, i would have to sell my current camera to manage funds. Is it worth it?

The camera seems perfect exept you cant preview image in lcd before taking it, and that worries me for things like macros etc.. What should i do, the EOS300d is mint condition, all original contents included, only 6 months old. Shud i get it and sell my sony? Any advice apriciated.

Alun

€100 !!!!???? He could sell it for many times that here on boards.ie or on buy and sell. Is it hot or something?

Valentia

Bargain of the year!!! Go for it. You'll get used to not having a preview very quickly. Does it have a lens?

JackKelly

Subliminal wrote:

Hi all, need help quick!

I currently have a sony dsv f505v digicam, but i have been given the offer off a friend, for a Canon EOS 300D for 100 Euro. If i bought this, i would have to sell my current camera to manage funds. Is it worth it?

The camera seems perfect exept you cant preview image in lcd before taking it, and that worries me for things like macros etc.. What should i do, the EOS300d is mint condition, all original contents included, only 6 months old. Shud i get it and sell my sony? Any advice apriciated.

Canon 300d usually cost ~€550 so 100 is an absolute steal....unless, as said, its hot.

Because it's an SLR, your not meant to able to preview images in the viewfinder, as the image is only captured on the sensor after the shutter opens.

FX Meister

If you don't want it then buy it and I'll give you €150 for it

DotOrg

Subliminal wrote:

The camera seems perfect exept you cant preview image in lcd before taking it, and that worries me for things like macros etc..

every professional photographer uses SLR's or Medium Format cameras, where you have to use a viewfinder instead of an LCD, it's much much better on a SLR as the viewfinder is so much bigger than what you get on point and shoot cameras

even if my Canon dSLR's had a preview in the LCD, I'd never use it, I prefer seeing what I'm taking with my own eye through the lens

Subliminal

Hi all, and thanks for your help, yes ive gone for it! I would not even look at an item if i even THOUGHT it was hot, but my friend is a photographer, and got this as an impulse buy 6 months ago. he said hes selling it at this price, as he knows i am only starting off into photography, and wants to give me a helping hand In fact, he has the reciept for it as well. Im going to sell my sony f505v, i like it very much, it has personality ( Do you want camera with that lens lol ) but if thi camera is as good as you say, then i will. Thanks all for clearing that up for me, my biggest worry was the macro thing, without an lcd preview, but as you say, i can soon get over that. And yes, theres a 18-55mm lens included.

Appriciate the quick replies, and thanks..

Sub

Fajitas!

Good luck with the camera, I'm using the same, find it great.

Subliminal

Hi, getting this in the next day or two, was just wondering, what is the X Magnification of a 18-55mm lens? Its probably a silly question, but ive no idea!
Is it 3X? im judging 18 X 3 = 3X Optical? Please help me grasp this!!

Thanks in advance.

Oh and Cheers Fajitas.

boxoid

well if you dont buy it, i will...
you can get a hack for the preview.

TheGreatest

Valentia wrote:

Bargain of the year!!!

Exactly,

Subliminal, enjoy the camera.I prviously owned one. You will love it.

Zombrex

Subliminal wrote:

Hi, getting this in the next day or two, was just wondering, what is the X Magnification of a 18-55mm lens? Its probably a silly question, but ive no idea!
Is it 3X? im judging 18 X 3 = 3X Optical? Please help me grasp this!!

Thanks in advance.

Oh and Cheers Fajitas.

Once you start using proper SLR lenses the idea of x3 zoom or x4 zoom isn't really used, those are just terms for lay people

Things also get complicated when using digitial SLRs because everything is relative to the size of bit that captures the image, be it the film or the CMOS sense in your Canon 300D

Basically this is the way I think about it when working out what lense does what (the exact details may be abit off) ...

a 200mm lense will produce an image in focus on the back of the camera that is diganonally 200mm in size.

of course that image size is actually much bigger than the back of the camera. A 35mm film has a diagonal size of about 50mm.

So out of the 200mm size "virtual" picture, only the centre 50mm is actually exposed onto the camera.

So say you are taking a picture of a man standing in a park infront of you. Using a 200mm lense you point the camera at the man.

the 200mm "virtual picture" will include the whole park, trees and all, including the mans head in the centre. But the 50mm in the centre that actually falls onto the film, and that you see when looking through view finder is of just the mans head.

so you end up with a detailed picture of your mans head full size on your 35mm film. This is what we think of when we think of zooming in on something to say a power of x10, where as the 200mm terminalogy explains the idea differently as if you were blowing the scene up to really big size (200mm) and then just taking the small bit in the centre as the light to expose your film to (the 50mm in the middle).

if you swapped around for a 300mm lense the virtual image would be 300mm and the 50mm area in the middle that falls on your film would have an even closer up picture of your mans head.

if you swapped around for a 50mm lense, the virtual image produced by the lense would match almost perfectly the size of your 35mm film (remember it is 35mm down the side, the diagnol length is 50mm) so everything captured by the lense falls on the screen and you get the whole park

it works in reverse when you get smaller than 50mm. A 15mm camera produces the same detail as you saw in the with the 50mm lense but this is now smaller than the 50mm. So around the edges you get other details like houses beside the park and cars down the street.

The problem is the size you expect your final image to represent changes if the part that is exposed to light is not the same size as a 35mm camera

As you are using a 200mm lens and you have took a picture of the mans head with your 35mm film camera (50mm diagnol remember). You get his whole head in the picture

If you then take the same picture with a Canon 300D that has a smaller size CMOS sense (not sure exactly but say it is 40mm across), you will be missing some of his head.

So if you are used to working with film and move to digital you have to do a bit of rethink in your head because a certain size lens will produce a different image in a digital camera than in a film camera

Hope that helps ... have some diagrams at home that might explain better, will post them up later.

Subliminal

Hi all and thanks again. As things have worked out, my mate got offered 350 for the camera, and as i cant match that, he sold it. Really devistated, had my mind set on it now. Im going to sell my F505V, and try and get a DSLR. Wont be nearly as good as this one though. If anyone is selling a DSLR or simelar camera, please let me know, thanks.


Sub

conorgriff

Well with the limited knowledge I have, as far as I know the 300d came with the EF-S 18-55 mm lens. If you look here you'll find a review of your camera and all the specs you'll probably need on it.

An excerpt from the lens review on that link I gave you siad "This lightweight 'consumer' lens performed remarkably well considering its relatively cheap price ($100 included with the EOS 300D). It's clearly a little soft at maximum aperture (almost all lenses are), but stopped down it produced good resolution at wide angle and average resolution at full telephoto. It's not going to break any resolution records but overall it's a useful, light and relatively good lens."

just skip to the lenses sections in the dropdown menu at the top of the page and on the second lenses page it refers to the macro ability of the supplied lens.
If however your friend doesn't give you the lens then you'll obviously have to buy one

Hope that's of some help

Subliminal

Thanks for the headsup, but He sold the camera for 350.
Now looking for a DSLR. And depressed.

conorgriff

What the hell? Your mate sold the camera after promising it to you?


--ah I missed your previous post about him selling it, bummer

Subliminal

conorgriff wrote:

What the hell? Your mate sold the camera after promising it to you?


--ah I missed your previous post about him selling it, bummer

Yes he did... :mad: Mates..what would you do without them!

conorgriff

that sucks man, well just save your ass off

Zombrex

Subliminal wrote:

Thanks for the headsup, but He sold the camera for 350.
Now looking for a DSLR. And depressed.

That suck man ... €350 is more what the camera is worth though, €100 is very very cheap for a camera that costs €700 new.

You can pick up a decent second hand film SLR for about €100 if you want to go the film route

Progen

Can't belive how lucky you got.

I paid 600 for my SLR. including; 1GB / 128mb CF cards, polarizer/skyline filters, 18-55 EF-S lens + hood. Original mint box, only 5k shutter actuations, software/cd's, cables, dust caps, etc.

Now I've a tripod for it, Sigma 28-300mm f3.5-6.3 lens+hood, Sigma 100-400mm lens, battery grip, Canon EX Speedlight.. A basic setup good enough for professional shoots.

And its only a small step down from the ever popular 350D...


For a 100 euro, you more or less cutt his hand off in the process ! !


Oops.. I take being lucky back.. I just read how he sold it to someone else...

Hard luck dude. Plenty of bargains on Ebay... Just shipping will sting ya!