Anarchist Youth Collective

*Sam*

Just a quick message to announce the formation of a new anarchist group, aimed at teenagers and students.

We have agreed to hold our first meeting on:

Saturday December 10th
at 1pm
in St. Nicolas of Myras (Francis Street).

For those who are not sure where that is, we will be meeting outside the Trinity College Gates at 12.30.

The day will be divided into three sections, including:

1) A quick/interesting introduction to anarchism. Also, a brief talk on the anarchist groups and the general state of anarchism in Ireland.

2) A screening of a number of radical films, highlighting previous actions both nationwide and globally.

3) An open meeting with the purpose of forming a youth based anarchist group.

Please do come along!

contact- faganfest@eircom.net
or todayeire@hotmail.com

Thanks.

ANarcho-Munk

Anarchism doesn't work.

*Sam*

ANarcho-Munk wrote:

Anarchism doesn't work.

Your entilted to your opinion.

OLP

ANarcho-Munk wrote:

Anarchism doesn't work.

nothing works:rolleyes:

1936

Hi Sam
Is the rebranding of the TODAY group

Ah sorry i see from your email address it is
Good Luck with it

Matthewthebig

seem like a bunch of prats to me

ANarcho-Munk

OLP wrote:

nothing works:rolleyes:

Yore ma wasn't working last night either!!!!!!1!!1!

*Sam*

1936 wrote:

Hi Sam
Is the rebranding of the TODAY group

Ah sorry i see from your email address it is
Good Luck with it

TODAY failed for a number of reasons. Lack of support and members. Too many goals. No contacts in the political scene already.

This group is the coming together of a few teenage anarchists, with a realistic goal and tons of enthusiasm.

Thanks for the support, pop down or email me if ya want.

*Sam*

Matthewthebig wrote:

seem like a bunch of prats to me

Loving the support.

Cheers.

qz

So what's your "realistic goal" then?

Matthewthebig

same thing they do everynight qz: try to take over the world

qz

Matthewthebig wrote:

same thing they do everynight qz: try to take over the world

Shower of muppets.

Johnny Jukebox

Hey Sam,

Out of curiousity, what has this got to do with Punk ?

Have you posted the same notice on, say, the Jazz/blues forum ?

Gonna riot on my own

JJ.

Doctor J

The day will be divided into three sections, including:

1) A quick/interesting introduction to anarchism. Also, a brief talk on the anarchist groups and the general state of anarchism in Ireland.

2) A screening of a number of radical films, highlighting previous actions both nationwide and globally.

3) An open meeting with the purpose of forming a youth based anarchist group.

That looks more like a business seminar than anarchy, very organised indeed. Will there be tea and biscuits too?

1936

Not involved in this initiative and i don't know Sam but thought i would try and deal with some of the sh#t thats been posted up anyway just in case someone thats interested is turned off by the inane comments.

1: Anarchy isn't against organisation just hierarchical forms of organisation.
2: In relation to the "shower of muppets" "won't work" posts start a thread in politics on why anarchism doesn't work and we can have a proper debate.
3: I assume Sam posted it into the Punk section because much of the scene is infused with Anarchist thinking and many Punk bands and Punks would consider themselves Anarchist.

*Sam*

Johnny Jukebox wrote:

Hey Sam,

Out of curiousity, what has this got to do with Punk ?

Have you posted the same notice on, say, the Jazz/blues forum ?

Gonna riot on my own

JJ.

Well theres no anarchist or political youth section. Punk in my mind has a lot to do with anarchism.

That clear things up ok?

*Sam*

Doctor J wrote:

That looks more like a business seminar than anarchy, very organised indeed. Will there be tea and biscuits too?

Of course!

dregin

*Sam* wrote:

Punk..... has a lot to do with anarchism.

Ya obviously haven't been listening to the latest Blast offerings being sprouted about around here then

Johnny Jukebox

*Sam* wrote:

Well theres no anarchist or political youth section. Punk in my mind has a lot to do with anarchism.

That clear things up ok?

Er, no, not at all.

The *symbolism* of anarchy was used by Vivenne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren in manufacturing the imagery around the Sex Pistols and their other endeavours circa 1974 - 1978. Rather than quote a myriad of supporting references, I refer you to "Englands Dreaming" by Jon Savage, widely regarded as an authorative work.

The association between punk and anarchy was created and is maintained by the marketing department.

*Sam*

Johnny Jukebox wrote:

Er, no, not at all.

The *symbolism* of anarchy was used by Vivenne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren in manufacturing the imagery around the Sex Pistols and their other endeavours circa 1974 - 1978. Rather than quote a myriad of supporting references, I refer you to "Englands Dreaming" by Jon Savage, widely regarded as an authorative work.

The association between punk and anarchy was created and is maintained by the marketing department.

''The political ideology most often associated with punk is that of anarchism. A lot of punk activism has been done in support of anarchist goals. Whether a punk subscribes to anarchism or not, he or she almost certainly is discontent with his or her government. Punks are often very active in trying to change their governing political systems to some extent. When punks engage in activism their demands can usually be described as progressive. Despite the similarities punk may have with the left wing, many punks perceive the efforts of the left as ineffectual and sometimes just as objectionable as the right wing''.

Punk nowadays as a lot to do with anarchism and vice versa. Whether its through anarcho punk bands, punks going to demos, punks and anarchists fighting together on the streets etc....etc...

OLP

So anarchism is the only way of thinking that's discontent with the present government?

Greg90210

OLP wrote:

So anarchism is the only way of thinking that's discontent with the present government?

I believe in the minds of many it is!
But anarchism doesn't work in the REAL world

Redleslie2

Greg90210 wrote:

I believe in the minds of many it is!
But anarchism doesn't work in the REAL world

It works if people understand what it is and want it to work, as Nestor Makhno for example did in the Ukraine. It's like saying the interweb doesn't work because nobody owns it.

dregin

The U.S. government owns it.

*Sam*

Yo,

This is TOMMORROW!

Meeting at 12.30 outside trinity college.

Cheers,

Sam.

Anarchist

1936 wrote:

Not involved in this initiative and i don't know Sam but thought i would try and deal with some of the sh#t thats been posted up anyway just in case someone thats interested is turned off by the inane comments.

1: Anarchy isn't against organisation just hierarchical forms of organisation.
2: In relation to the "shower of muppets" "won't work" posts start a thread in politics on why anarchism doesn't work and we can have a proper debate.
3: I assume Sam posted it into the Punk section because much of the scene is infused with Anarchist thinking and many Punk bands and Punks would consider themselves Anarchist.

Fact 3 is correct

Franky Boy

Johnny Jukebox wrote:

Out of curiousity, what has this got to do with Punk?

It's the stereotype that all punks are anarchists.
Quite silly really.

Ajnag

You are welcome along to attend a laize-faire day of anarcho capitalist fun outside the aib finacial offices in dublin on saterday.
Events include:
Whack the peruvian pesant piniata.
Spray the hippie with lynx competition.
Lecture: Why marxism will bring the downfall of the the free love economy and reduce us to sexless peons.

Before wraping it all up with a trip to the central bank to lecture the emo and goth kids the importance of free market economics capping it all off with the exploit a skanger treasure hunt[Bring pepper spray and soliciters no.]

We look forward to seeing you:

Redleslie2

Anarchist wrote:

Fact 3 is correct

Why isn't fact 1 correct.

Anarchist

I was referring to #3

ANarcho-Munk

Ajnag wrote:

You are welcome along to attend a laize-faire day of anarcho capitalist fun outside the aib finacial offices in dublin on saterday.
Events include:
Whack the peruvian pesant piniata.
Spray the hippie with lynx competition.
Lecture: Why marxism will bring the downfall of the the free love economy and reduce us to sexless peons.

Before wraping it all up with a trip to the central bank to lecture the emo and goth kids the importance of free market economics capping it all off with the exploit a skanger treasure hunt[Bring pepper spray and soliciters no.]

We look forward to seeing you:

Brilliant post!!

Ajnag

Thanks anarcho,
You'll be happy to know that we have secured a supply of "punk pants" from burma made from chinese puppy fur of which sony bmg will be supplying a pair with every copy of good charolettes next album.

As a result of our efforts on saterday, One hippy smells better, One goth and two-emo kids are now considering careers at morgan stanley, and a skanger has agreed to join the army so he can further a career in private security to protect profits in years to come.

Merry Commercemas!
And a Happy New Quarter to one and all!!!

1936

O.K All

The next anarchist youth meeting is on this Saturday(7th).
We are meeting at the gates of Trinity College @12:30.

If anyone is interested please come along or join our mailing list at AnarchistYouthIreland-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

thiscityburns

Ajnag wrote:

Thanks anarcho,
You'll be happy to know that we have secured a supply of "punk pants" from burma made from chinese puppy fur of which sony bmg will be supplying a pair with every copy of good charolettes next album.

As a result of our efforts on saterday, One hippy smells better, One goth and two-emo kids are now considering careers at morgan stanley, and a skanger has agreed to join the army so he can further a career in private security to protect profits in years to come.

Merry Commercemas!
And a Happy New Quarter to one and all!!!

If you were actually a funny person this would work, you're not.

Ajnag

If you were actually a funny person this would work, you're not.

Er? What?
Are you psyhic?
By what magical means do you determine "funny persons" over the internet?

And more importantly do's it involve punk pants? :v: