Guardian Angels?

Le Rack

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. The past while I've had a lot of sh!t in my life, whike being three years ish, I've tried suicide a fair few times but survived, evidently... I came to the conclusion that having tried to die so many times and failing, there's got to be some bigger reason for my existance, not been too worried about finding it just kinda accepting that it's there. Anyway this morning things got bad, very bad, by the afternoon, it was slightly better, to an extent at least, but this evening, I was drying my hair in front of a mirror and I constantly felt like someone was watching over my shoulder, not threateningly but that they were there. Being a fledling wiccan I know of it being possible to see things, paranormal things, with use of mirrors and stuff, but this was weird...

So basically does anyone know about gaurdian angels, the actual ins and outs and not what some teen site off google will tell me...

thanx!

Kernel

Le Rack wrote:

So basically does anyone know about gaurdian angels, the actual ins and outs and not what some teen site off google will tell me...

thanx!

You should never contemplate suicide, since it doesn't seem to bring any peace with it, and after a few days I find melancholy moods have a habit of changing and one finds a new and fresh outlook.

I suspect Sapien might be able to give you an esoteric or occult explanation of Guardian Angels, all I can do is tell you of the Catholic Church's standpoint on it.

http://www.catholic.org/saints/angel.php

solas

well, glad your still with us Le Rack. As a fledgling wiccan there is a possiblity that while expanding your awareness, your opening yurself up to a variety of influences.
I know there are a few sensitive people here and I know how particular experiences can have knock on effects. I think reading or learning more about gaurdian angels will be very helpful to you, a nice step forward. Hopefully you will find some comfort through it.

Nevyn

There are other things besides angels that look after us.

Kernel

Thaedydal wrote:

There are other things besides angels that look after us.

Such as?

Le Rack

Thaedydal wrote:

There are other things besides angels that look after us.

I know that yeah, there's other spirits, Dryads of the trees and what not but I'm I just have a feeling it was some sort of angelic type body thing...

When you have depression, suicide often feels like the only way out... three years fighting...

solas

Le Rack as mod of this forum I have an obligation to suggest you see your doc or another professional about your symptoms, (this you know) Maybe just talking to someone will help, but I do know how you feel and where your comming from. I don't know if you've read this page before, but I found it helpful.
http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/index.html

Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain.

Hopefully you can find some way of increasing your pain coping resources. (perhaps aknowledging you have angelic assistance will provide you with enough support to stand a little taller)
A little optimistic reading would be helpful too, why not take a stroll down to your local bookstore and see if they have any light reading on angels.

Maybe others here can offer some reading material that they find helpful or enlightening.

Kernel

Le Rack wrote:

I know that yeah, there's other spirits, Dryads of the trees and what not but I'm I just have a feeling it was some sort of angelic type body thing...

When you have depression, suicide often feels like the only way out... three years fighting...

Dryads and fairies are from D&D... Seek help from professionals as Solas has said, or examine your life and what makes you depressed and then devote all the energy you devote to being depressed about it into fixing the situation that is causing it. Start with small goals. Try to socialise and exercise more, it will make you feel better, try prayer - it works for many, but you must also help yourself.

Just remember, everything has a way of working out, and there's a plan there for all of us, everything happens for a reason and is there to make us who we are.

Suffering is only good if it teaches us how not to suffer in the same way again, learn from everything and make the changes you need.

FoXXy

moving on from the whole suicide topic which is i'm sure not where you intended this to go...

gaurdian angels? i'm not sure if i'd put it that way but my mum went to a physic last year and told her that her daughter has been constantly watched by a female member of the family that has passed on. when my mum asked for more detail the physic said that she tends to visit a purple room. the purple room being my bedroom.. so maybe not a gaurdian angel and i'm still not sure if i believe in psychic abilities but it gave me comfort to know that i was being watched and perhaps given a little assistance..

alexar

Just thought I should get a little note here too. I have always had great interest in "paranormal". Anyone who’s interested in Spirit Guides/Guardian Angels must read these books: by an Irish writer Patrick Francis "The Grand Design".

http://www.paddymcmahon.com/

Le Rack

To Solas and Kernal, you may not think it but I do cope well, I have depression, I know I do, and at times it really does feel that suicide is the only way out, that my death would make the world a better place, which is my perception of your quote above Solas.

I have found ways of dealing, sometimes when I'm very down, I'll just go write, write everything that I'm feeling, or not even, just what comes. This helps bigtime, as I release it all through this, I still feel like sh!te but not so bad like... I keep all these "freescripts" in a big notebook and read them from time to time, and they actually make me feel good, because even though at the time, I don't even know what I'm writing, I willl have wrote, stuff like "I can win, I won't give in to the sh!t, I have my friends and with them I can survive" And I firmly believe because of them I do survive.

Prayer? Prayer + Me = NoNo. I disowned religiong a long time ago and I'm not going back to it, like some big hypocrit, I don't believe it does anything for me now or ever will.

btw Kernal, I have no knowledge of D&D at all, I learnt about Dryads through wicca.

FoXXy, I was actually thinking along those lines myself, it felt as if it was someone I knew but couldn't be sure... many people believe guardian angles exist and many believe that your dead relatives friends watch over you...

I dunno, but I definately felt some sort of comforting pressence...

solas

I'm going to move this to spirituality LeRack, you might find more assistance there.

I'm no suggesting your not able to cope, the quote is referenced from an article that I found helpful during a traumatic time, everybody goes through the motions at some point or another. I would like you to think there is light at the end of the tunnel though, if aknowledging that you have some higher assistance helps you acheive that goal then all the better for it. I think you will find the spirituality forum more supportive for this kind of understanding.

tc and be well

Laguna

Well if Guardian Angels do exist, I sure as hell don't have one. This has been the worst year for myself and my immediate family. I'm not able to say details as it's too personal but I (and my family) have had things happen to us this year that are soul destroying, with no respite in between, i never believed in God but with what's happened to us, I think there's some higher power purposely trying to destroy our lives, no one can have this much bad luck in sequence by chance.

solas

It can feel that way sometimes, but for those who believe that there is more to life, Le Racks point is comforting, that they are there to watch over and protect us.
[wouldn't mind a helping hand right now myself]

amazingemmet

Le Rack wrote:

Prayer? Prayer + Me = NoNo. I disowned religiong a long time ago and I'm not going back to it, like some big hypocrit, I don't believe it does anything for me now or ever will.

Being a fledling wiccan .....

eh? Don't answer if you don't want to.

As to the questions of things looking over you there could be or.. there could not be. Tis always a hard one to call, even if you manage to contact one its always a question of is it a seperate enity or is it a piece of yourself? Always hard to decide with out proper help.

But what ever is watching over can't interfere they can only show you the door its up to yourself to walk through it.

Nevyn

Wicca is a religion.
It is the interaction and relationship that we develope with the God and Godess
and the awareness of the earth.
Lighting a candle and talking with your Gods is an act of prayer.

amazingemmet

Thead was that addressed to me? I was just wondering if she was implying more mainstream religions or did she consider wicca more of a craft then a religion.

Nevyn

Wicca is a religion. ( see the full stop it is a statement )
Being earth, spirit aware and using magic or doing spells does not make one wiccan;
a witch maybe or a pagan but not wiccan if you don't have a connection to deity.

amazingemmet

Gotcha

Le Rack

Yeah, sorry, I know wicca is a form of religion but when I think the word religion I instantly think Catholic and/or Chgristian, and I don't believe in that end of things...

Charis

Le Rack

Did you try asking who it was? I very much believe is spiritual beings both good and evil. You may need to determine who or what the being is.
As for suicide, I have had those points in my own life. Those were the times in my life when I God had a lot of questions to answer. I too encourage you to have people in your life who will love and support you. If you don't have that seek help. There are groups and individuals who are discussing the same issues. Sometimes we just aren't honest with people when we are struggling and need help. Please tell someone in person if you are hurting. A friend recently told me she had been struggling with depression and yet she closed everyone out. Shame on me for not going to her when I didn't hear from her! I wish I could have been there for her but I am making a point to be there for her now.

Oryx

To me it sounds as if you were aware of a spirit entity, it could be a relative or friend who has passed on, or a soul who is there simply to watch over you. This is what I consider these things to be, someone else may regard them as angels, or light beings or whatever. We apply our own names and ideas to help us understand. I think regardless what any of us may call this kind of thing, I believe we all have these spirits around us, who have our best interests at heart. Being aware of them can be a great comfort.

Le Rack, I hate to think of you suffering alone from such suicidal depression. Ive had days (weeks, months...) like that too, I think many of us have. As has been said, dont suffer alone. The tendency is to shut out everything but if it happens please contact someone either here or irl. You can pm me anytime - if you want my phone contact number no probs.

Le Rack

Thanx guys loads, but I am learning how to cope and have a really close set of friends who know how I am, for want of better words and I can talk to them anytime but it's just difficult at times.

mark13

in the words of george carlin "guardian angels...are you ****in nuts what about goblins.doesnt anybody believe in goblins anymore,stop deluding yourselves"

Nevyn

mark13 I suggest you read the the charter for this forum this is your only warning you will be banned.
Thaedydal

joseph dawton

There's so much more to the world than what we can see and touch. More than likely there are angels watching over you just as there may also be demons trying to lead you astray. The whole universe is full of positive and negative energy flowing, the ups and downs of your life are part of that but you can control how it changes, that's where your friends, guides and hopes come into play. I've been depressed in the past, it was believing that the bad times would pass that kept me going and indeed they did, having spiritual assistance of any kind will help you to speed that process along, the more positivity you can feel, the faster you recover until eventually you're seeing life in a positive way again.

Just be careful working with guides, angels or energies always make sure to protect yourself in case of the unexpected - in the same way that you wear a seat belt in a car it's no big deal.

http://www.electricpublications.com