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All in Poker

  • 27-11-2005 8:14am
    #1
    Posts: 0


    Im not sure how the boards downline etc is looking, but mine is pretty sparce. I think this idea has potential, but some sales work needs to be done to get it to take off.

    what i suggest is the following. Everyone here who is on it, come up with 1 or more ideas on how to get new people on the downlines. We all attempt to put into place some of these ideas, instead of passing the buck. Law of averages someone could spark something off which would lead to 1000 americans signing on.

    I will start with some suggestions:
    Join some other poker forums or suggest it to people you know there if you are already in another forum. However dont just join up and post a sales pitch it will justlook like you are a spammer. Post there for a week getting involved in debates so people recognise you and then get the word out. if a few people from here join the same board spark off a debate about it.

    Another one is when you are playing online and you are at a table for a good while, you might be talking to one or two of the guys for a - drop it in to the conversation give them a link to the brochure and then send em an invite if they like the look of it

    One more thing, Devore you are in touch with the guy who runs this thing right? It might be a good idea to suggest various upgrades to the site. i posted here Isent two emails to their support, and have still received no reply 3 weeks later with the result that i am not playing the site anymore. We wouldnt want this kind of thing to happen to anyone who joined on our downlines..........


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Thats weird cos I've logged a few things with their support and gotten resolution within 24 hours. I'll direct his attention to this thread, as I think he reads here too.

    The idea is working it just seems to be slow, perhaps the next freeroll will expand it. Boards has about 120 in its downline and is about to kick off some advertising tomorrow but Antesup has about 350 and it motoring along nicely and earning a few quid by the look of it.

    DeV.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    113 views and still no ideas??????????????????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    Set yourself the challenge of making yourself more unpopular than the guys promoting a similiar multilevel marketing scheme with 888.com , 888.biz I think it is, spamming the online community and being ripped into. Spam like a nutter for a laugh, won't make you money but at least you'll annoy a lot of uptight people :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    That's the thing about pyramid schemes, those at the higher levels will make out like bandits, while those at the lower levels have to put some work in to move away from the lower levels.
    That's pretty much why I didn't sign up for all-in poker, to get people on your downline you need to get active and spam your downline link around the place. I hate spammers and am far too lazy to sign up for other poker forums and recruit people :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Shortstack


    lafortezza wrote:
    That's the thing about pyramid schemes, those at the higher levels will make out like bandits, while those at the lower levels have to put some work in to move away from the lower levels.
    That's pretty much why I didn't sign up for all-in poker, to get people on your downline you need to get active and spam your downline link around the place. I hate spammers and am far too lazy to sign up for other poker forums and recruit people :)

    I'ts not like you to miss the detail Luke but if you read into it a bit then you would realise that it is a huge benefit to you to sign up under boards or Antes Up as they will generate players for your downline.

    Another reason it is NOT Pyramid scheme is that players down the line benefit from sign ups from up the line.

    Obviously it is totally up to you but it is still the early stages of this and the gains will be longterm not to be judged after just one month. Businesse's take time to grow and mature and once this reaches critical mass it will grow quicker.

    There is no need to spam with this deal, word of mouth and legitamate promotion and discussion will be all it takes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    I don't agree Mike!
    Shortstack wrote:
    I'ts not like you to miss the detail Luke but if you read into it a bit then you would realise that it is a huge benefit to you to sign up under boards or Antes Up as they will generate players for your downline.
    I've signed up through Oscar's link. I'm on his level 4. Do you honestly think everyone is going to get 2 people in their downlines through the boards or Antes-up links? How does that work exactly? Does everyone on level 2 get filled up first then level 3 etc.. ?
    Another reason it is NOT Pyramid scheme is that players down the line benefit from sign ups from up the line.
    They benifit in that they can possibly have 2-players dropped into their downline. The structure is still a pyramid though, just like pyramid schemes.
    Obviously it is totally up to you but it is still the early stages of this and the gains will be longterm not to be judged after just one month. Businesse's take time to grow and mature and once this reaches critical mass it will grow quicker.
    How do you see this happening? If I can manage to I will refer players to my downline, but I, probably like a lot of players, don't know too many others that we could refer to this scheme. Even if we did, high volume players can get deals that make more sense to them through other sites on both prima and other networks.

    If AIP had a system where players got a decent percentage of their own rake back as well as a percentage of their referral pyramid then it might be more attractive to the type of players that any poker site ultimately wants, the players who generate a lot of rake (Say getting 26% of your own rake back and having 25% for people above you).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Shortstack


    Can't do the fancy multiple quote thingy but:

    If you are in Oscars level 4 then you have 6 sponsors above you who could possibly supply you with players; Antes Up, Boards, Oscar and the three in between. I have referred 2 players directly and now have 35 in my downline through auto referrals. Remember everybody you recruit gets a couple of extra auto referral spots. The auto referral's do not just fill up level 1 then 2 then 3 although the algorithm does stop branches shooting off too far before others.

    If you base what is a pyramid scheme just on the shape alone then you will be accusing most of retail as pyramid schemes.

    A high volume player will think nothing of knocking off 750 hands to get the deal from All In Poker and then play the rest of their hands on a rake back site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    Maybe I was a bit harsh since I actually don't know the exact mechanics of how it all works, and who gets their downlines filled and so on.

    At the risk of making another mistake, if I sign up to all-in poker now, say on El Rifles downline, how much money am I going to make once I play the 750 hands if I do no recruiting of others for my own downline?
    It's a decent idea imho, but I think maybe it's been overhyped regarding how much money you will actually make from a full downline and plenty of referrals.

    I'd be interested to hear how any boards punters have got on so far, and how much money they've generated through the downline pyramid scheme. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭bmc


    lafortezza wrote:
    Maybe I was a bit harsh since I actually don't know the exact mechanics of how it all works, and who gets their downlines filled and so on.

    At the risk of making another mistake, if I sign up to all-in poker now, say on El Rifles downline, how much money am I going to make once I play the 750 hands if I do no recruiting of others for my own downline?
    It's a decent idea imho, but I think maybe it's been overhyped regarding how much money you will actually make from a full downline and plenty of referrals.

    I'd be interested to hear how any boards punters have got on so far, and how much money they've generated through the downline pyramid scheme. :)


    8 downline members.

    1 who actually played anything.

    $0.11 made from a potential $0.29 because I have only played a portion my full 750 hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭Culchie


    11 downline members $3.85 from possible $5.79

    Level one (5) 2 players 'active', 2 have played some hands, 1 nothing
    Level two (5) 0 'active', 2 have played some hands, 3 nothing ... also 1 autoreferral, no details on.

    This figure hasn't changed very much at all from the first week or so.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Shortstack


    lafortezza wrote:
    Maybe I was a bit harsh since I actually don't know the exact mechanics of how it all works, and who gets their downlines filled and so on.

    At the risk of making another mistake, if I sign up to all-in poker now, say on El Rifles downline, how much money am I going to make once I play the 750 hands if I do no recruiting of others for my own downline?
    It's a decent idea imho, but I think maybe it's been overhyped regarding how much money you will actually make from a full downline and plenty of referrals.

    I'd be interested to hear how any boards punters have got on so far, and how much money they've generated through the downline pyramid scheme. :)

    It depends on many things. If you are not going to meet anyone in your life that plays poker and is not already on All In then you would want to make sure that you get as high up a high volume recruiter's downline as possible.

    Of course if you are a good player then you stand to make money from the regular freerolls which will be much larger than the one that happend last week.

    I would expect that even such a lonely grouchy soul as yourself would find 3 people to add to the 2 auto referrals that you will get at somepoint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    3 downline members

    1 who has played so far

    $1.65 made from a potential $1.65

    I'm rich I tells ya, RICH!!!

    shameless plug

    p.s. I still have a space in Level 1 of my downline if you're looking to join up, it means you'll be at the highest level :D

    /shameless plug


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭bmc


    Culchie wrote:
    11 downline members $3.85 from possible $5.79

    Level one (5) 2 players 'active', 2 have played some hands, 1 nothing
    Level two (5) 0 'active', 2 have played some hands, 3 nothing ... also 1 autoreferral, no details on.

    This figure hasn't changed very much at all from the first week or so.

    I hope magazines365 is doing better...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    8 downline members.

    1 who actually played anything.

    $0.11 made from a potential $0.29 because I have only played a portion my full 750 hands.

    So where's my cut Brian??? Take my 11c and I get nothing! :eek:

    I'll play you heads up for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭bmc


    ollyk1 wrote:
    So where's my cut Brian??? Take my 11c and I get nothing! :eek:

    I'll play you heads up for it.

    Hmmm... I forgot about you.


    2 players who have played anything.


    Still only $0.11 made.


    And it's all mine!


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