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BJJ Mc Dojo ???

  • 25-11-2005 2:55pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭


    I saw this on bullshido.com´s main page;

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    looks like BJJ could become a victim of its own success


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    sure the americans did the same thing with Krav Maga.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭john kavanagh


    as bjj is performance driven there's always that acid test of the 'roll'. you think the coach is not legit well roll with him and his students! if he taps you out repeatedly using skill and technique...and so do his students then you're at the right place. if he's reluctant to roll and there's a weird atmosphere in the gym then move along...its that simple:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    well to you its that simple, but then you know a lot about BJJ. I can see a lot of people being roped into these schools, who knows after a few years of this people will dissmiss BJJ, the same way they do TaeKwonDo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Doubtful - It's rare to find schools like theses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭john kavanagh


    "you think the coach is not legit well roll with him and his students! if he taps you out repeatedly using skill and technique...and so do his students then you're at the right place."

    cant see whats complicated about this:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭Colm_OReilly


    I agree with John up to a point. Although the whole Black Belt thing is complete BS due to the grading system being performance based the coach doesn't have to be a black belt in order to be effective.

    In order to instruct, you must have superior technical knowledge to your students.

    In order to coach, you must have an understanding of the sport, be able to recognise faults in an athletes technique and/or skill, and develop drills/create an environment where those faults can be corrected and the athletes skill level improved. So it is possible to coach an athlete without the entire technical knowledge of a sport, particularly if the sport is skill orientated moreso than requiring technial perfection (e.g. If an armbar attempt is successful, despite there being some faults in the technical execution, it will still count as a win, despite it being less than technically perfect. In gymnastics, as a counterpoint, it is almost purely technical, with flaws taking away from your score/chance to win)

    However, all that being said, to have an understanding of the sport, it is virtually essential to have competed in that sport, so you can fully appreciate the pressures and challenges presented in competition. This way, you have first hand knowledge of the stresses of competition and also can better tailor the training regime to produce the best results in competition.

    Now once you've gained that understanding of competition, you can coach athletes past the level you've competed at, since the only real difference at that level will be a matter of intensity and skill/technical knowledge of the competitiors (assuming physical attributes are equal).

    Colm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭john kavanagh


    vgood points C, but i reckon if mine was too complicated you've totally messed him up:D lol!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    cant see whats complicated about this
    I didnt say it was complicated.
    Lets put it this way; I have no expirence in relation to BJJ, I dont know what techniques are involved, for me to "roll" with someone would be useless (even if I was winning they could make up rules on the spot & I wouldnt know the difference). I dont even know how much ground work should be done in a regular BJJ class, or how much actual fighting.
    Is it so hard for you to believe that someone with no martial arts expirence could be roped into one of these schools, believing himself to be learning BJJ ?


    edit* Just for the record I dont have any interest in learning BJJ, I was hoping to get discussion going on what I see as an attempt to turn BJJ into something it claimed it couldnt become a "McDojo" art


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭john kavanagh


    "for me to "roll" with someone would be useless (even if I was winning they could make up rules on the spot & I wouldnt know the difference"

    lol! try a class dude:D many good gyms in finland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Nah I know what he means. It's hard for him as a beginner to analyse the ability of someone..

    As far as going to say "I was hoping to get discussion going on what I see as an attempt to turn BJJ into something it claimed it couldnt become a "McDojo" art".

    BJJ isn't a McDojo art. You are citing your resources from one website. I remember a while back, that site actually listed the members - All of which, were 4 or 5 schools if my memory serves me correctly. That's 4 or 5 schools out of thousands. It doesn't mean BJJ is or ever will become a McDojo art. It means one guy is trying to cash in on the craze. BJJ in itself, is still a tried and tested art - it's very competitive and still world reknowned for being nearly infallible in it's teachings..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    Nah I know what he means. It's hard for him as a beginner to analyse the ability of someone..
    yep, won't somebody please think of the children (or inexpirenced people like me) :D
    , that site actually listed the members - All of which, were 4 or 5 schools if my memory serves me correctly
    Ah ok, from reading the letter it looked to me as if there was large number of schools already doing this. I suppose theres no call for alarm so.


    P.S. despite the fact that I'll probably never do BJJ, I wouldnt have liked to see it be cheapened by this sort of thing (or for any art to be cheapened for that manner)


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