The Movie Rounders: Some observations

NickyOD

* In the opening hand - Teddy KGB fires a $15K bet into a $4K or so pot...in the last game - Mike opens with $1K at $25/$50 blinds with KK...in the same game - Teddy KGB bets $2K on the flop into a $400 pot...

* There is a string raise in the golf pro game...

* In the first game at the Chesterfield - Worm wins $8K at a $20/40 game...and while 200BBs in a session is certainly possible - wouldn't SOMEONE start thinking something was up...

* Erik Seidel had hair in the 1988 World Series...

* In the Mikey - Johnny Chan scene...JC raises...MM reraises...JC rereraises...MM makes it five bets...JC - FOLDS?!?!

* No male - who has been drinking and is depressed - is going to turn down the advances of Famke Jensen wearing an ass-high micro-dress and 5" stelleto pumps...

shoutman

Ha ha well observed
especially the last part

Rnger

When driving back from the prison after picking worm up, the main character (name?) notices worm has an ace up his sleave BUT HE HAD NO WAY OF SEEING IT CUZ HE SLEAVES WERE PULLED UP

Amaru

NickyOD wrote:

* In the Mikey - Johnny Chan scene...JC raises...MM reraises...JC rereraises...MM makes it five bets...JC - FOLDS?!?!

This scene was originally written for Phil Hellmuth(seriously). Which explains everything. There'd have been 5 minutes of Phil thinking before the "huge laydown" though, because he was sure the other guy had Aces.

NickyOD

This version is still the best:



EuroRounders

Michel (voiceover): "If you can't find the boorish
American hold'em player at the table within half an
hour, you are the boorish American hold'em player."

---

TITLE/CREDITS. This entire movie is in black and
white, with subtitles.

---

Michel (voiceover): "This game is really scummy, and
well above what I can afford to play. My entire
bankroll is riding on this one session going well.
This is Teddy CIA's place, where they only play Pot
Limit Omaha, the most sophisticated game in Europe."

- Michel knocks on the window -

Teddy CIA: "You want poker, or whore?"

Michel: "Poker. Give me three stacks of high, elitist
society."

---

Michel: "I raise."

Teddy CIA: "It's a position raise. I call."

- The flop comes 5-7-A, with two diamonds -

Michel: "I bet the pot."

Teddy CIA: "I raise the pot."

Michel: "I reraise the pot."

Teddy CIA: "I reraise the pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel (voiceover): "I sit back and think. I have
three aces - the best possible hand. I want him to
think I'm debating a call, but really I'm just
thinking about Monte Carlo, and whatever the
[censored] is in Monte Carlo."

Michel: *shrugs* "Okay, well, I re-pot it, I'm all in,
because I don't think you have a pair." *winks at the
camera*

Teddy CIA: "Who are you winking at? It doesn't matter,
I call."

Michel (voiceover): "I know before he even says it."

Teddy CIA: "I have 8-6-4-3 with two diamonds, for a
wrap straight draw and a flush draw, which is a
favorite over your top set."

- Turn is a King. River is a 2 which gives Teddy CIA
an ace-to-five straight for the win. -

- Michel sits there, shell-shocked. -

Joey Croissant: "Come on, I'll get you a whore."

---

Michel (voiceover): "Well, that sucked. Since then,
I've sworn off of poker and made my living as a
roadside prostitute for boorish American tourists.
Hopefully, I can pay my way through law school that
way. I can always find games, though. I could turn
this truck onto the road and be at the Taj in 19 and a
half hours."

---

Michel (voiceover): "I'm here to pick my friend Worm
up from prison."

- Worm walks out of prison -

Michel: "Worm! It's wonderful to see you!"

- They kiss each other passionately on the mouth -

Michel: "How was prison?"

Worm: "I was brutally sodomized on a regular basis."

---

Michel: "Look...Croissant, I never told you this, but
about a year ago, I was playing poker at the Casino
des Atlantes, and Marcel Luske walks in. He sits down
at the 50/100 pot limit game. And, I mean, the whole
place stops, right? Just watching this guy play. After
a while there isn't a retarded European gambling game
going, because everybody's just, you know, watching
this guy."

- Joey Croissant nods -

Michel: "So you know what I did? I sat down."

Joey Croissant: "No way, you need at least 300,000
euros to sit down at a game like that. Such bad
financial management is typical of a boorish
American!"

- Joey Croissant and Michel laugh for twenty-six
minutes -

Michel: "Right, okay, but seriously, I played for an
hour, doing nothing but folding. Then I won a huge
pot."

Joey Croissant: "Aces? Kings? Ace-King doublesuited?
Suited aces? High connectors? Middle doublesuited
connectors? Two big pair?"

Michel: "Rags."

Joey Croissant: "That's probably fine too, you're only
like a 48/52 dog."

Michel: "I raised. And he came over the top of me,
like I was a boorish American. I re-popped it. He
potted it again. I think for like two seconds and then
I re-pot it."

Joey Croissant: "Jesus [censored] Christ, how much
money did you have?"

Michel: "After I bet I would quietly slide my chips
back toward my stack, nobody noticed. Anyway, he
thinks for a while, looks at me, checks his cards
again, and he mucks. I take it down. And then he looks
at me and says, 'I have to know. Did you have it?' And
I said, 'I'm sorry Marcel, I can't remember.'"

Joey Croissant: "Face!"

Michel: "I know, totally. Anyway, based on that one
hand, I felt confident gambling for all the money I
had, at one time."

---

Law Professor: "I am a Jew."

Michel: "I hate you."

---

Teddy CIA: "We play, heads up, Pot Limit Omaha, 25 and
50 blinds, until one of us has it all?"

Michel: "Out of sheer curiosity, you realize you're
giving up like boat loads of equity by agreeing to
gamble for money that's effectively yours anyway,
right? That you could just not let me play, and then
kill me and take what I have?"

Teddy CIA: "I know, but I am a boorish American!"

- Michel and Teddy CIA laugh for seventy-two minutes -

---

Michel (voiceover): "I pick up Ace-Ace-Jack-Ten
doublesuited."

Michel: "I raise the pot."

Teddy CIA: "Very aggressive. But, I reraise the pot."

Michael (voiceover): "He's representing
Ace-Ace-King-King doublesuited, the only hand better
than mine. I can't call, and give him a chance to
catch. I can only fold...if I believe him."

Michel: "I reraise, I'm all in."

Teddy CIA: "Take it down."

---

- The flop reads 10-9-5, with two spades -

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot. I'm all in."

Teddy CIA: "Alright, I call. What do you have?"

Michel: "Jack high flush draw and middle set."

Teddy CIA: "Wrap, with a king high flush draw."

Michel: "Boy, I sure hope my 5:4 edge holds up,
otherwise I am going to die."

- Turn is an off-suit 5, giving Michel an unbeatable
hand. But the river is the ace of spades anyway,
because it's always the [censored] ace of spades. -

Teddy CIA: "He beat me. Pay that man his money. His
silly, silly-looking European money."

---

Cab Driver: "Where are you off to?"

Michel: "Monte Carlo."

Cab Driver: "Good luck."

Michel: "Shut the [censored] up."

Samba

* In the Mikey - Johnny Chan scene...JC raises...MM reraises...JC rereraises...MM makes it five bets...JC - FOLDS?!?!

Further elaboration.

Mikey states he wanted to know if he could sit with the best and from this he decides he can.

Not ONE flop was seen!

Nalced_irl

NickyOD wrote:

This version is still the best:
EuroRounders
....."

Thats brilliant! Funny stuff. Im not gonna quote it all or it will become the longest thread of all time!:p

Sinfonia

Jesus Nicky, where'd u find that, i havent laughed so hard in a long time!

Joey Croissant: "Aces? Kings? Ace-King doublesuited?
Suited aces? High connectors? Middle doublesuited
connectors? Two big pair?"

Michel: "Rags."

Joey Croissant: "That's probably fine too, you're only
like a 48/52 dog."

absolutely priceless

oh, omaha...

DapperGent

Yeah those particular observations about Rounders are hilarious.

I pissed myself at the "Pot" "Pot" "Pot" "Pot" bits.

Sinfonia

another observation.

when Teddy KGB busts Mike at the start, he shows aces full, and walks away from the table.....Mike could've have quad 9's. isn't that a little presumptuous??!?!!?!!!!!!!

Amaru

Not really.

Whats more unusual is this. They're playing 4 handed in the opening scene, but then when Teddy busts Mike, apparently the game is over? Don't the other 2 want to play on anymore?

youcantseeme

Amaru wrote:

Not really.

Whats more unusual is this. They're playing 4 handed in the opening scene, but then when Teddy busts Mike, apparently the game is over? Don't the other 2 want to play on anymore?

This is the funniest thread....

FullOf..IT

wot was teddys exact tell.....

Rnger

he had a monster when he put his ear up close to the cookies as he broke them. Mike is some genius for spotting that one!

The C Kid

The tell was that when Teddy had a monster he broke the cookie against his ear and then ate it, when he didn't have a monster he just broke the cookie against his ear and returned it to his tray.

I think I read somewhere that by eating the Orio he was pschyologically devouring his opponent as he would do with his monster hand.

Fatboydim

I love poker - I love movies - I think Rounders is a very poor film. Badlly written and realised. The scene where Matt Damon tells all the old guys what they're holding is simply laughable. Be honest... Isn't the only reason anyone talks about this film because it's the only film about Poker out there. [Unless you go back to The Cincinatti Kid]

Sinfonia

worst russian accent ever.

I vil splesh de fyacking pot venever the fyack i pleeza.

The C Kid

There's a young enough guy who plays in the Merrion who sounds just like him, makes me laugh when he speaks as all I can think about is the movie.

NickyOD

SumGuy wrote:

worst russian accent ever.

I vil splesh de fyacking pot venever the fyack i pleeza.

LMFAO!! Aha! there's my new signature.

youcantseeme

ye it is a bad movie but ya still have to love it (and watch it a million times whan your bored)

Juan Pablo

Observation: In the 1988 WSOP final heads up vs Sidel, Chan did not flop the nut straight and "check it all the way to the river". Chan flopped the nut straight, and led out for 40k. Sidel raised him to 90k which Chan flat called. He then checked the turn and called Sidel's all in on the river. Fact. And tbh, had Chan bet out on fourth street Sidel would have more than likely come over the top all in as he played the final table very aggressively between the time he knocked Humberto Brenes out in fourth and the infamous hand outlined above, and had moved in over the top of Chan a lot up to that point.

Also, the ESPN presenter looks like a Blonde Hoff. Stuff of legends.

Waylander

Fatboydim wrote:

I love poker - I love movies - I think Rounders is a very poor film. Badlly written and realised. The scene where Matt Damon tells all the old guys what they're holding is simply laughable. Be honest... Isn't the only reason anyone talks about this film because it's the only film about Poker out there. [Unless you go back to The Cincinatti Kid]

I quite like the movie actually, I know you have to allow a bit of artistic licence in places, but sure you have to do that with most films so it does not bother me.

Amaru

If you don't like Rounders, chances are you are a bad player.....

Fatboydim

Amaru wrote:

If you don't like Rounders, chances are you are a bad player.....

LOL you could be right there... On the other hand I might just know a lot more about movies than you.;)

Culchie

Amaru wrote:

If you don't like Rounders, chances are you are a bad player.....

Wow ... you do have a knack !

mewso

Juan Pablo wrote:

Observation: In the 1988 WSOP final heads up vs Sidel, Chan did not flop the nut straight and "check it all the way to the river". Chan flopped the nut straight, and led out for 40k. Sidel raised him to 90k which Chan flat called. He then checked the turn and called Sidel's all in on the river. Fact. And tbh, had Chan bet out on fourth street Sidel would have more than likely come over the top all in as he played the final table very aggressively between the time he knocked Humberto Brenes out in fourth and the infamous hand outlined above, and had moved in over the top of Chan a lot up to that point.

Also, the ESPN presenter looks like a Blonde Hoff. Stuff of legends.

Pay attention to Chan's acting in the WSOP when the commentator is commenting on his amazing slow play of the str8. It's got to be the worst acting like you are reluctantly calling you've ever seen at the poker table. Then again we don't know the history. Maybe looking like he was acting was the clever move.