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I Just cant stay ahead of this government and celtic tiger any longer

  • 24-11-2005 8:48am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 38


    :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    Move!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 Berkel


    I hear ya easy... Its like trying to fight a monster that you cant beat - I commute from Louth to the south of Dublin - I have 3 routes - East Link, through town or West Link. They are all as bad as the other - 'orbital motorway' me arse - I have to say I find the M50 the most frustrating - probably because you can see the line of traffic ahead... East link is rubbish coz it always seems that some ship is unloading about a hundred trucks during rush hour... and town is a nightmare - however I have started going through town in the mornings now around 6:30 which has a surprising amount of traffic but it keeps moving. I know exactly the feeling of 'if I could just get out of dublin'... it will happen soon...oh yes... if I have to become a farmer I will...

    I get scared when I think what this city will be like in 3 or 4 years. Traffic problems are going to be the ruin of it.

    Good luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭homeOwner


    easylife wrote:
    I live in the midlands for quality of life for my family regarding space and "house prices", but as a result I have to commute to dublin daily as there are no jobs for me in the midlands - If I could get a job in the midlands similar to what I have now in Dublin I would be happy out, but I wont go there as I said.

    What you are saying here is totally contradictory. You want quality of life and cheap house prices but you complain about commuting to Dublin. You cant have it both ways. I dont mean to dump on your life but from what you wrote in your post you do not have quality of life by any measurement I know of.

    You get up around 5am I assume as you leave at 5:20. You spend 1 hour 40 mins - EACH WAY - in the car commuting and I assume you dont get home till after 6:30pm in the evening at the earliest. You must have to go to bed around 10pm to get up at 5am or maybe you dont need alot of sleep but what you are saying is crazy. You have a family that you dont see during the week, except for maybe 2 or 3 hours in the evening at most. You must be constantly tired with all the driving and early mornings. Your poor wife I assume is at home with the kids all day on her own until you get back late in the evening. I am not seeing quality of life.

    I worked in Athlone for 6 months and would drive down from Dublin on a Monday and back on a Friday. The odd time I would come back up to Dublin during the week to meet people but the long drive combined with early mornings used to kill me. (Glad to see that moterway stretch is finally finished - it took forever to build!).

    The cost of petrol, the cost of tolls, the cost of having a decent car (because you cant do that commute in a banger) and the personal cost of being away from your family for over 13 hours a day and being constantly tired in my opinion is not a trade-off for having a large house in the midlands. Perhaps a smaller 3-bed semi in dublin would save you a few hours each day and give some of your back to your family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    easylife wrote:
    ....blah...blah...blah....

    Soultion: Move


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,562 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Anyway - I didnt want to get into that as I said - my main issue is the Damn government ripping us off with taxes and tolls.
    It's chicken and egg. If people didn't commute ridiculous distances there'd be less investment required for infrastructure, if they didn't insist on living in one-off housing the cost of providing services would be lower.

    Actions have consequences.

    When the property slowdown/crash (depending on who you believe) comes, it'll be the plasterboard boxes in godforsaken midlands towns which will crash in value. Sooner or later sanity must prevail and commuting silly distances is no way to live.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭gjim


    I used to "commute" to Wales for work for about 6 months. Over and back every week - it used to take me almost 7 hours in total to get there and the same to get back using trains, planes and automobiles. The government should have done something about it and provided me with a helicoptor service. I pay a load of taxes - I don't see why the government shouldn't look after me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭MorningStar


    Taking responsibility for property purchases and life choices is out of fashion. It is a lot easier to blame the governement for not provide a never ending public transport system and massive roads to cater for everybody to be able to drive cars if they want.
    Massive commutes are generally the fault of the person commuting the only thing the government is guilty of is allowing people build where ther was not enough infastructure. They never made anybody buy the properties


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 easylife


    What has any of this got to do with the fact that the government are going to take 8.40 a day to commute? that was my original problem- I dont mind commuting and happily do it!
    Let me put it more simply.
    In order to commute from midlands to airport - do you think it is acceptable to charge a person 8.40 toll daily?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 731 ✭✭✭jman0


    Maybe that 8.40 is a disincentive to commuting via car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    easylife wrote:
    What has any of this got to do with the fact that the government are going to take 8.40 a day to commute? that was my original problem- I dont mind commuting and happily do it!
    Let me put it more simply.
    In order to commute from midlands to airport - do you think it is acceptable to charge a person 8.40 toll daily?

    You don't have to pay the 8.40 toll it is not mandatory to uses these routes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭homeOwner


    For the past few months i have been doing a luas + dart commute in and out of work. It costs me €6.40 per day to go about 14 miles round trip - is that fair?

    Someone has to pay for transport infrastructure, why not the people who use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    Personally I think the best option is to move. But to another country. This ones stuffed.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Personally I think the best option is to move. But to another country. This ones stuffed.
    That's even worse than what the original poster said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    Well the solution here is to find a job and live beside it. Which is a lovely ideal, but not achieveable for the majority of people. In another one of these threads, someone posted the example of some bloke quitting their job and becoming a cycle courier, as if thats possible for all people of all ages.

    I've tried for years to get jobs in my local area, but never been able to get one. I could drop 20k in salary, and get a job locally. But then I couldn't afford to live in the area anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    Dubs TBH.


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