why cant I have

Bettyboop

I thought that I ordered another sky+ box(installaton tomorrow)but
found out on friday after I rang sky,I cant have 2 .Why I dont
know!!I already have an ordinary one downstairs.I will be paying
€79.50 p.m.The lady from sky just said it was not possible.
No other explanation, can anyone here explain why??
Thanks:(

aidan_walsh

Presumably because this is covered by Multiroom.

Bettyboop

But my son wont be able to record anthing on his,
and that was the main reason I wanted another sky+box.
Why does it matter?I am willing to pay for one.
Just seems odd that because I have multiroom I cant
have sky+
Thanks anyway (All over my head):D

JohnC.

valerie wrote:

I thought that I ordered another sky+ box(installaton tomorrow)but
found out on friday after I rang sky,I cant have 2 .Why I dont
know!!I already have an ordinary one downstairs.I will be paying
€79.50 p.m.The lady from sky just said it was not possible.
No other explanation, can anyone here explain why??
Thanks:(

Hang on, are you saying you already have a Sky+ box and an ordinary box and you want another Sky+ box added to those, leaving you with 2 Sky+ and 1 ordinary box? That isn't possible without a new LNB, AFAIK.

Bettyboop

Kahless wrote:

Hang on, are you saying you already have a Sky+ box and an ordinary box and you want another Sky+ box added to those, leaving you with 2 Sky+ and 1 ordinary box? That isn't possible without a new LNB, AFAIK.

yeh thats right. Whats a LNB??I thought I could connect up to 4 boxes!
Just would like to know the reason why I cant.In laymans terms.
sorry, but I know (as you guessed)nothing about installations etc.

shabbyroad

No. It is possible. Using the current LNB and a device that will take the four outputs of the LNB and output them to multiple outputs. In my case I have a triax splitter that takes the 4 feeds from the LNB and outputs 10 separate satellite feeds.
Two of these are connected to a Sky+ box, 3 others are connected to other Sky boxes around the house. I could, if I wanted, connect another 5 Sky boxes or 2xSky+ boxes and a regular Sky box.

Get an independent installer who knows what he/she is doing. Explain what you want and they'll supply and fit.

Bettyboop

shabbyroad wrote:

No. It is possible. Using the current LNB and a device that will take the four outputs of the LNB and output them to multiple outputs. In my case I have a triax splitter that takes the 4 feeds from the LNB and outputs 10 separate satellite feeds.
Two of these are connected to a Sky+ box, 3 others are connected to other Sky boxes around the house. I could, if I wanted, connect another 5 Sky boxes or 2xSky+ boxes and a regular Sky box.

Get an independent installer who knows what he/she is doing. Explain what you want and they'll supply and fit.

Great will ask the guy coming tomorrow,dont care how much extra,this is my sons xmas present.Thank you very much for that,
btw the dish is just below his window.

DinoBot

shabbyroad wrote:

No. It is possible. Using the current LNB and a device that will take the four outputs of the LNB and output them to multiple outputs. In my case I have a triax splitter that takes the 4 feeds from the LNB and outputs 10 separate satellite feeds.
Two of these are connected to a Sky+ box, 3 others are connected to other Sky boxes around the house. I could, if I wanted, connect another 5 Sky boxes or 2xSky+ boxes and a regular Sky box.

Get an independent installer who knows what he/she is doing. Explain what you want and they'll supply and fit.

Hey, Are you saying it IS possible to split the feed from a single LNB to feed more than one box ?

I am trying to do this but was told I would need another LNB which has two cables coming from it. What do I need to set this up ?

DMC

No, the OP has a quad LNB already. You will need a quad LNB.

byte

No a single LNB will only feed one receiver (properly).

To feed 2 boxes, you'd need a twin output. To feed 4 boxes, you'd need a quad LNB. To feed more than 4, you'd either need an Octo LNB, or a Quattro LNB connected to a multiswitch.

The only multi-output LNB designed for a Sky Minidish is a Quad, which feeds 4 digiboxes, or 2 Sky+ boxes, or 1 Sky+ and 2 digiboxes.

NOTE: A Sky+ box needs 2 feeds - so it's possible to record one channel and watch/record another simultaneously.

I think some multiswitches can be used with a Quad instead of a Quattro, though don't quote me on that.

Capt'n Midnight

Or a second dish, if asthetics aren't a priority.

You could use the existing quad for the 2 SKY+ 's
And a new dish with a single LNB for the SKY

Greenman

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

Or a second dish, if asthetics aren't a priority.

You could use the existing quad for the 2 SKY+ 's
And a new dish with a single LNB for the SKY

That sounds like a good idea.

byte

Captn Midnights solution is probably the most straight forward.

Though, your other problem then will be getting the card for the 2nd Plusbox, if Sky refused you one already.

Unless, when ordering you say it's for another standard digibox, then when you've it activated, ring up and ask to enable Sky+ PVR function, saying nothing about the other Plusbox, and hope they don't notice?

Charlie

A question here, we are upgrading to sky and we want to get sky+ multiroom. However we want multiroom in two rooms, i.e one plus box and two standard boxes. The lady at sky said that we would have to pay €69 for the plus box, nothing for one of the standard boxes , and another €69 for the other standard box. She suggested though, that as we would be paying €69 twice, we should just get 2 plus boxes and leave it at that, however thatts not an opion as we want digital in 3 rooms. It got me thinking though, could we not get 2 plus boxes and a standard box but only use one of the lnb outputs on one of the box, ie. only able to record or watch but not both. Does anyone know if sky insist that a plus box have 2 feeds going into it.

DinoBot

byte wrote:

No a single LNB will only feed one receiver (properly).

To feed 2 boxes, you'd need a twin output. To feed 4 boxes, you'd need a quad LNB. To feed more than 4, you'd either need an Octo LNB, or a Quattro LNB connected to a multiswitch.

The only multi-output LNB designed for a Sky Minidish is a Quad, which feeds 4 digiboxes, or 2 Sky+ boxes, or 1 Sky+ and 2 digiboxes.

NOTE: A Sky+ box needs 2 feeds - so it's possible to record one channel and watch/record another simultaneously.

I think some multiswitches can be used with a Quad instead of a Quattro, though don't quote me on that.

You see I have two boxes and two active sky cards at the moment but only 1 dish 1 LNB.
Does anyone know of an installer who is cheap who could install a quad LNB (which I will get from ebay:D )

shabbyroad

charlie mchugh wrote:

A question here, we are upgrading to sky and we want to get sky+ multiroom. However we want multiroom in two rooms, i.e one plus box and two standard boxes.

with a quad lnb this is straightforward.

The lady at sky said that we would have to pay €69 for the plus box, nothing for one of the standard boxes , and another €69 for the other standard box. She suggested though, that as we would be paying €69 twice, we should just get 2 plus boxes and leave it at that,

that's a good suggestion

however thatts not an opion as we want digital in 3 rooms. It got me thinking though, could we not get 2 plus boxes and a standard box

yes you could and you'd only be paying nothing for the standard box.

but only use one of the lnb outputs on one of the box, ie. only able to record or watch but not both. Does anyone know if sky insist that a plus box have 2 feeds going into it.

bit of a waste of a good Sky+ box.

Since you're prepared to pay for two Sky+ boxes and , as Sky have said, you could have the standard boxes why not get the full blown solution as I described above ? This will give you Sky+ in two rooms and regular Sky in two additional rooms.

Or: are you sure you'll watch Sky in all 3 rooms at the same time ? If not then consider using one or more video senders.

Charlie

shabbyroad wrote:

with a quad lnb this is straightforward.

that's a good suggestion


yes you could and you'd only be paying nothing for the standard box.


bit of a waste of a good Sky+ box.

Since you're prepared to pay for two Sky+ boxes and , as Sky have said, you could have the standard boxes why not get the full blown solution as I described above ? This will give you Sky+ in two rooms and regular Sky in two additional rooms.

Or: are you sure you'll watch Sky in all 3 rooms at the same time ? If not then consider using one or more video senders.

Because my understanding is that a quad lnb will only allow for 2 + boxes and no more, and thats not an option for the house. But I thought seeing as I would be paying €69 for the extra standard box, why not ask for a + box instead and only use one of the lnb feeds for it. I mean I will still be able to pause live tv, record programmes...etc just not watch and record. I couldn't have done any of those things on the standard box that I would be paying €69 for anyway.

RangeR

charlie mchugh wrote:

Because my understanding is that a quad lnb will only allow for 2 + boxes and no more, and thats not an option for the house. But I thought seeing as I would be paying €69 for the extra standard box, why not ask for a + box instead and only use one of the lnb feeds for it. I mean I will still be able to pause live tv, record programmes...etc just not watch and record. I couldn't have done any of those things on the standard box that I would be paying €69 for anyway.

Yes but he was asking you to read this...

shabbyroad wrote:

No. It is possible. Using the current LNB and a device that will take the four outputs of the LNB and output them to multiple outputs. In my case I have a triax splitter that takes the 4 feeds from the LNB and outputs 10 separate satellite feeds.
Two of these are connected to a Sky+ box, 3 others are connected to other Sky boxes around the house. I could, if I wanted, connect another 5 Sky boxes or 2xSky+ boxes and a regular Sky box.

Get an independent installer who knows what he/she is doing. Explain what you want and they'll supply and fit.

Pal

DinoBot wrote:

You see I have two boxes and two active sky cards at the moment but only 1 dish 1 LNB.
Does anyone know of an installer who is cheap who could install a quad LNB (which I will get from ebay:D )

Join the queue. installers get busy at Christmas.

see the sticky for contacts

byte

Pal wrote:

Join the queue. installers get busy at Christmas.

see the sticky for contacts

Too true! November and December are the busiest months for Sky installs, and sadly, it's the worst time of year to be installing them! brrr!

Charlie McHugh, I'm not fully sure you'll be fit to record anything if the 2nd LNB input isn't wired. Maybe Tony or Big Paddy can correct me on this? I've never tried to record with only 1 input.

Greenman

DinoBot wrote:

You see I have two boxes and two active sky cards at the moment but only 1 dish 1 LNB.
Does anyone know of an installer who is cheap who could install a quad LNB (which I will get from ebay:D )

Did you ever consider DIY ???

JohnC.

byte wrote:

Charlie McHugh, I'm not fully sure you'll be fit to record anything if the 2nd LNB input isn't wired. Maybe Tony or Big Paddy can correct me on this? I've never tried to record with only 1 input.

I was under the impression that you can record with only 1 input, but you can only record the channel you are watching. You need the second input to record something other than what you are watching.

bigpaddy2004

Yes you can record or pause live tv with just one lnb input, but you cannot change the channel, just like using an old video recorder.
What Valerie is trying to do will not work unless she sets up a second Sky account.
Reason being you see as far as Sky are concerned only one Sky account can only have up to 4 lnb ports, or one dish. if you require more than 4 lnb ports or a second dish, Sky will just have to give you a second Sky account number, thus charging you a second premium rate pack. Their computer system will not allow the operator to over suppply the customer with too much products!

Bettyboop

bigpaddy2004 wrote:

Yes you can record or pause live tv with just one lnb input, but you cannot change the channel, just like using an old video recorder.
What Valerie is trying to do will not work unless she sets up a second Sky account.
Reason being you see as far as Sky are concerned only one Sky account can only have up to 4 lnb ports, or one dish. if you require more than 4 lnb ports or a second dish, Sky will just have to give you a second Sky account number, thus charging you a second premium rate pack. Their computer system will not allow the operator to over suppply the customer with too much products!

Thanks for that,it all makes sense now!

byte

bigpaddy2004 wrote:

Yes you can record or pause live tv with just one lnb input, but you cannot change the channel, just like using an old video recorder.
What Valerie is trying to do will not work unless she sets up a second Sky account.
Reason being you see as far as Sky are concerned only one Sky account can only have up to 4 lnb ports, or one dish. if you require more than 4 lnb ports or a second dish, Sky will just have to give you a second Sky account number, thus charging you a second premium rate pack. Their computer system will not allow the operator to over suppply the customer with too much products!

Ah, thanks for verifying that Paddy. I wasn't sure. At least I know now!