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Five Card Draw General Tips

  • 18-11-2005 11:26am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 23


    I have been playing NLHE for a year or so now. I have read a few books and have a reasonable understanding of the game. However tonight I have a free ticket (worth €50) to a Five Card draw poker night. I know the rules but have never played for money.

    I dont know for sure but assume that tonights game follows some sort of tournament structure. Anyway I need advice on strategy. All I have been able to find on the web are suggestions like :

    Bet big pre-draw. Dont draw and bet big.
    Check pre-draw. Draw one card and bet big.

    Anyone got any general pointers or links to advice on how many and what cards to draw in particular situtations? I know there are a lot of principles like pot-odds and table image which can be takeen from Holdem, but what else should I be know.
    Thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭JuliusFranco


    alot of the same principles apply to draw poker that apple to holdem.

    like any game, good starting hand requirements will give you an edge

    one common mistake: if you're dealt a pair, don't be inclined to keep the big kicker!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    I think NickyOD is the main 5-card draw guy here, but here's my 2c:

    You dont mention the structure, but I'm assuming it's half-pot betting, with raises of either double or triple the bet. (If it's in the country, I'd say double the bet). General advice:

    Openers: Position is important with openers e.g. dont open with Jacks, Queens, etc, directly to the left of the dealer. Close to the dealer, generally open with Aces or better. (This will probably make you easier to read, but as it's your first real game, I wouldn't worry about trying to mix up your game to much). Basically, the further away from the dealer, the lower your opening requirements.

    Drawing hands: Raise pre-draw with four to a straight/flush to add value to these hands. You should be raising with some 2-pair hands as well to disguise this.

    Shorts (pairs TT-22): The general advice for these hands is not to play them. However, my experience with these is that they have a certain amount of implied odds in half-pot betting games, so I will often call pre-draw in an unraised pot in late position. Position is the key word here, you're playing for trips value (no sets in draw!) and you need the action coming into you after the draw to know whether your hand is good or not.

    Pre-draw with a pair: Dont bother trying to get too tricky, just buy three as normal.

    Dont play: Hands like AKxxx, Ax suited, three to a straight/flush etc. Honestly, there are some people out there who play with this sort of crap.

    Thats fairly general advice, but it's what works for me in a loose game that I play occasionally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭padser


    Possibly just my own opinion but I would regard 5 card draw as a pretty skillless game. Maybe i just dont understand the subtlities of it. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 kenaman


    Unfortunatley I don't have an details on the betting structure. All I have is free ticket! I wont know until I turn up.
    one common mistake: if you're dealt a pair, don't be inclined to keep the big kicker!

    I kind of assumed that, but wasnt sure. Kickers would be less important as the odd of coming up against the same pair and needing to outkick them are small and you would be better off with another card to shoot for trips.

    Any other pointers on what I can take and what I should leave from Holdem?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    kenaman wrote:
    I have been playing NLHE for a year or so now. I have read a few books and have a reasonable understanding of the game. However tonight I have a free ticket (worth €50) to a Five Card draw poker night. I know the rules but have never played for money.

    I dont know for sure but assume that tonights game follows some sort of tournament structure. Anyway I need advice on strategy. All I have been able to find on the web are suggestions like :

    Bet big pre-draw. Dont draw and bet big.
    Check pre-draw. Draw one card and bet big.

    Anyone got any general pointers or links to advice on how many and what cards to draw in particular situtations? I know there are a lot of principles like pot-odds and table image which can be takeen from Holdem, but what else should I be know.
    Thanks.

    5 card draw strategy depends if they are playing standard draw poker or Jacks or better and also if they are playing with blinds or with a compulsory ante.

    Any 5 card draw I played years ago was always Jacks or better where only the dealer posted the blind. These were really easy to beat because of their simplicity, but I know there are some draw tourneys now where you can open with any pair and they have a small and big blind like in holdem.

    If its jacks or better and someone opens don't call with anything less than Kings. If its any pair to open and someone else opens, don't play anything smaller that 88. When buying cards try to mix it up. i.e sometimes buy only one card when you have trips or 2 cards when you only have a single pair. Don't be tempted to draw one card for an up and down straight draw unless you have the correct odds to do so, because a lot of the time you don't.

    And whatever you do, when the dealer gives you your cards, count them before you look at them. I once when out on the bubble of what was probably one of the biggest ever 5 card draw tournament in the West with trip aces llosing to 2 pair because I had 6 cards. :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 kenaman


    Thanks for the advice guys...heading over shortly.

    60 players in all. € 1,500 in prizes. Will let ye know how it goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Fathead


    kenaman wrote:
    Thanks for the advice guys...heading over shortly.

    60 players in all. € 1,500 in prizes. Will let ye know how it goes.
    kenaman wrote:
    However tonight I have a free ticket (worth €50).

    Now thats how to do a proper rake......:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 kenaman


    Fathead wrote:
    Now thats how to do a proper rake......:eek:
    It was a genuine fund raiser. Knocked out 17th of 62. Was sitting pretty until my two pair came up against a house and in the next hand my trip aces came up against a straight.

    Anyway it was an interesting experience. Will stick to HE in future though.


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