Xbox 360 - Dissected

dan99989

Hey, not sure if this has been posted already but Anandtech have got their hands on one and gone at it with a screwdriver.

Enjoy...

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2610

skywalker

check out the size of the psu.

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/system/microsoft/xbox360/bundle.jpg

NutJob

Ill probably get slated for this but can anyone tell me where they got the figures for internal bus speed? Did they add in the CPUs internal bus (which would explain the figures)?

The reason im bringing this up is the busses after the chipset look alot slower than the media hyped figures.

iregk

skywalker wrote:

check out the size of the psu.

Yup, a mate of mine who works for MS told me that a while back. Hence why up to now they have not shown the size of the power pack. Apparently the one for the PS3 is almost double the size!!!

garthv

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/system/microsoft/xbox360/bundle.jpg
Please dont tell me that huge brick on the left is the power pack :eek:

skywalker

iregk wrote:

Yup, a mate of mine who works for MS told me that a while back. Hence why up to now they have not shown the size of the power pack. Apparently the one for the PS3 is almost double the size!!!

Jesus if its any bigger than that it will mean its as big as the console itself. They will have to do some redesigning & make that smaller for future revisions of the machine.

iregk

id say they will for future revisions alright but at the moment thats it!!!!

To be fair though, what were we really expecting from it? with multi core cpus and cell cpus etc... they are basically high end pc's. Could we honestly have expected something very small to run all that?

Laguna

iregk wrote:

Apparently the one for the PS3 is almost double the size!!!

LOL, I can see it now, having to turn off every other electrical appliance in the house just to turn on the PS3, including the T.V.!. Christ, the PSU's are getting bigger and bigger every generation of console, I guess the PS4 will need a PSU for its PSU... maybe:rolleyes:

iregk

Preorder your trilitium crystals to run the warp drive in the psu for the next gen consoles!!! (i understand that to non star trek followers that will go totally over your head!)

Hugh Hefner

Apparently it's badly placed too. It's about 1/3 of the chord's length away from the console so that it's too far away to place right beside the consoles but not far away enough to be placed in a "behind the scenes" location. It's a minor thing but still speaks badly of MS's designing.

setanta5

this could be wrong but i heard that the PSU is so large because it is a silent, fanless, air cooled design. (so i was told) both MS and Sony are trying to address the issues both suffered with their previous efforts having very noisy cooling fans when they had inboard PSU's. To a gamer this is all fine but they're trying to market these as living room friendly media machines for watching movies etc on. So to keep the noise level down they went for external larger and quieter PSU's.

This could be total BS but its what i was told by a mate of mine way back during the first showing of the 360 where one website caught a glimpse of the PSU behind one of the display models.

Hugh Hefner

setanta5 wrote:

this could be wrong but i heard that the PSU is so large because it is a silent, fanless, air cooled design. (so i was told) both MS and Sony are trying to address the issues both suffered with their previous efforts having very noisy cooling fans when they had inboard PSU's. To a gamer this is all fine but they're trying to market these as living room friendly media machines for watching movies etc on. So to keep the noise level down they went for external larger and quieter PSU's.

This could be total BS but its what i was told by a mate of mine way back during the first showing of the 360 where one website caught a glimpse of the PSU behind one of the display models.

Well this is where I got my 360 info. and they say the fan is a ****e too. Keep in mid that this is on the debug unit they have, not a full retail model. I guess we'll see on Tuesday.

Kotaku wrote:

A quick note about that moster of a power supply. This is the one Achilles Heel of the console. Not only isn’t it big and ugly, and I mean big, but it’s also poorly designed. Instead of putting the big box at one end or the other of the power plug, they sort of put it a third of the way down. What this means is that it’s kinda too far to put next to the console and not far enough to let it sit on the floor. I’m sure this won’t effect many people, there are ways around it being in the way, but it’s just a stupid design.

The only other pet peeve I have about the 360’s design is that it heats up like a mofo and then these fans kick in that are just shockingly loud. (At least on the debug unit, I didn’t have any final retail code to play.) Like, so loud I first thought it was part of the game’s sound effects. Granted I was playing at night with low sound, but still…

iregk

setanta5 wrote:

this could be wrong but i heard that the PSU is so large because it is a silent, fanless, air cooled design.

Sorry but there is no way in hell they are going to run that kind of spec and power with a fanless air cooled design! Considering where its going, at the back of the tv, with the heat coming from a tv, dvd etc... It would melt and explode with 10mins... Its going to be a fan cooled system.