God I'm a Dumbass

JuliusFranco

feels like the stupidest move i've made in months. after nearly 4 hours of playing pretty solid stuff i throw it all away after a complete loss of concentration...

down to about 14 in a mtt. my table is playing pretty tight, not a lot of raising pre flop. i've been playing pretty tight too, stealing a blind here and there and have only shown one hand where i called an all in pre flop (after i raised) with AK.
i've about just over 11k (about average on the table) with blinds at 300/600.
folded around to me in the c/o and with QTo i make it 1500
sb who (i thought) had a bit less than me calls.
the sb moved to our table fairly recently and he hasn't done a whole lot since. i thought he seemed solid enough but i had a headache, tired and was gasping for a cigarette. at the time i couldn't remember any hands he'd played
flop comes AJx rainbow
sb checks
i thought i'd represent the A so i bet 2500 hoping to take it down or find out what he had. (i might have normally bet 2000 here but i was wilting fast and couldn't be arsed thinking about it). he called, i narrowed down his hand down to a weak A (if i'm honest i had a bad gut feeling. i was getting confused and panicky)
flop is another J
sb checks again and loosing patience i pushed. he called instantly flipping over a J6 (he might of actually flopped 2 pair but i can't remember)

does this kind of thing happen to people alot? is this the kind of play only a muppet would make?
regarding the above hand, should i have bet the flop and how much? when should i have given up?

abuse welcome.

thanks
A

Samba

Just learn from the mistake and keep you socks pulled up next time.

jimbling

JuliusFranco wrote:

does this kind of thing happen to people alot? is this the kind of play only a muppet would make?
regarding the above hand, should i have bet the flop and how much? when should i have given up?

Yes it does.
No. - it was an average play up until the push - and that was pretty much a tilt.
Yes, you represented a good hand pre-flop, if you dont bet you've lost the hand, and if you do this every time you try and steal your certain to lose in the long run - continue the representation.
his flat call was a warning with bells on. I will have to assume that he did make the two pair on the flop, otherwise his post flop call is just sad (which could be the case, but you don't know that)

Other than the push, the only other part of this move I dislike is the small pre-flop raise.

Generally speaking, if the button raises you after its been folded around, it is likely to be a steal (especially at this point in a tournament). Therefore you have a much larger range of cards to call with. If your raise was much higher - say to 2200 - do you think the J6 would still have called? And if someone does call, and you get a flop like that, then you can be very cautious as the caller prob has a decent hand. - you still get away cheaper.

Rodge

I did pretty much the same thing last night. I put it down to tiredness. I felt I was playing well, down to 19 left and I was third in chips, chip leader was on our table and I had to go chasing an open ender when I was sure he had a set or overpair to finish on the bubble. Just blanked out for a minute. No more MTT's during the week for me.

ntlbell

JuliusFranco wrote:

feels like the stupidest move i've made in months. after nearly 4 hours of playing pretty solid stuff i throw it all away after a complete loss of concentration...

down to about 14 in a mtt. my table is playing pretty tight, not a lot of raising pre flop. i've been playing pretty tight too, stealing a blind here and there and have only shown one hand where i called an all in pre flop (after i raised) with AK.
i've about just over 11k (about average on the table) with blinds at 300/600.
folded around to me in the c/o and with QTo i make it 1500
sb who (i thought) had a bit less than me calls.
the sb moved to our table fairly recently and he hasn't done a whole lot since. i thought he seemed solid enough but i had a headache, tired and was gasping for a cigarette. at the time i couldn't remember any hands he'd played
flop comes AJx rainbow
sb checks
i thought i'd represent the A so i bet 2500 hoping to take it down or find out what he had. (i might have normally bet 2000 here but i was wilting fast and couldn't be arsed thinking about it). he called, i narrowed down his hand down to a weak A (if i'm honest i had a bad gut feeling. i was getting confused and panicky)
flop is another J
sb checks again and loosing patience i pushed. he called instantly flipping over a J6 (he might of actually flopped 2 pair but i can't remember)

does this kind of thing happen to people alot? is this the kind of play only a muppet would make?
regarding the above hand, should i have bet the flop and how much? when should i have given up?

abuse welcome.

thanks
A

It's not what you did so much it's your reasoning for doing it.

putting your stack on the line because your "loosing paitence" with something is just asking to blow up!

I like bigger raises pre-flop in that position with QTs/o KJo etc, but sometimes they've got me in trouble but they take it down there and then more often than not.

NickyOD

You played the hand better than he did.

The Troll

NickyOD wrote:

You played the hand better than he did.

Not very hard to do.

JuliusFranco

ntlbell wrote:

I like bigger raises pre-flop in that position with QTs/o KJo etc, but sometimes they've got me in trouble but they take it down there and then more often than not.

well 1500 had been my standard raise and it was working until the hand in question (no point in raising to say 2400 when 1500 would do the same job) a raise of over 2000 might have made the J6 in the small blind fold but i really don't want to have to face a re raise with OTo... 1500 seems like a punt i can get away from without too much pain (unless something like the above happens)

Hectorjelly

i play at least one hand a day that leaves me shaking my head in disgust at myself.

a-k-47

i play at least one hand a day that leaves me shaking my head in disgust at myself

big time...i did one 2day calling 70$ to a high with quads on the table. me forgetting that my full house was worthless ... silly me!!..


franco u played that hand ok..personally all in at that stage would have been my option.. altough its tough, in the 10k two days ago, i folded aq pre flop to ak and jj...would of took it down, n knocked em both out, instead ak knocks me out 23rd!.. 3hrs down the drain haha....keep the chin up though, your day will come and take down the whole dam tourn!...