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What would you have done?

  • 09-11-2005 07:42PM
    #1
    Ballyman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭


    Folks

    My first time posting on here. Been playing online/offline for 8 months now. Probably down a bit since I started but not too much as I have had one or two (relative) big wins to ease the pain.

    I prefer to play offline and in ring games although I also play tournies and this is where I have my first question!

    I was playing in a tourney last friday night (where I had come 4th out of 70 the week prior) and was down to the last 3 tables. There was 8 of us at the table and I had just arrived at it so didn't know any of the players. I was sitting in late position. The blinds were 2K/4K and I had a stack of around 34K.

    All folded to a guy in mid position, who had about 40K and he raised to 10K. I looked down at KdQd. I had put the raiser on a low to mid pair or suited connectors as it wasn't a massive raise and there was another guy at the table who had 100K+ who could easily call this bet. After a bit of thinking, I pushed my 34K into the middle. Everyone else folded, the raiser called and turned JJ. I got no help and headed off home.

    Obviously this was the wrong decision as I was in my car on the way home but to just call him I would have lost a lot of my stack so I thought this was the right decision. Of course I could have laydown the hand but I didn't think it was the right decision.
    What does everyone else think? Anything that might help improve my play would be appreciated.


Comments

  • #2
    Ste05
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Fine move to go all-in here, you were short stacked, but you should have known the chances of being ahead were slim to none, also that you were definitely going to get called, the villian of the piece obviously likes his hand and probably wanted to get all his chips in the middle, you got a 50:50 which is OK really and TBH it's probably the best you could have hoped for here, assuming he's fairly decent and playing more normal play at this late stage of the FreeRoll, his probable hand range would have possibly been 9's and above or a decent A, As it worked out you weren't dominated and so you had a better chance of winning the hand....


  • #3
    Shortstack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Shortstack


    If you were going to play then you did the right thing by pushing. KQs is not a bad hand to push with. There are other things to consider though, especially the fact that he has put 25% of his stack in the middle so is pretty much pot committed to call you. If your read was right (and it wasn't but the result was the same) then you were behind anyway, albeit not by much. Generally with this type of hand you are better pushing with it when there has been no action until it gets to you. Early on the game when the blinds are small it is a great hand in an unraised pot or to raise with from mid-late position.


  • #4
    ntlbell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Ste05 wrote:
    Fine move to go all-in here, you were short stacked, but you should have known the chances of being ahead were slim to none, also that you were definitely going to get called, the villian of the piece obviously likes his hand and probably wanted to get all his chips in the middle, you got a 50:50 which is OK really and TBH it's probably the best you could have hoped for here, assuming he's fairly decent and playing more normal play at this late stage of the FreeRoll, his probable hand range would have possibly been 9's and above or a decent A, As it worked out you weren't dominated and so you had a better chance of winning the hand....

    What made you think it was a free roll ?


  • #5
    Ste05
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    ntlbell wrote:
    What made you think it was a free roll ?
    Oh yeah :o , misread it, thought he said he plays ring games and freerolls, still same advice applies though, I assumed that all the maniac freeroll play had dissapated at this stage....


  • #6
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,864 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    In this situation I think it was ok to play as long as you pushed allin (which you did). In general situations though as Mike says he had committed a large chunk of change to the pot so wasn't going away easily. I like to control the betting. Making a move into an unraised pot is usually the most advisable way to play here, and unless you have a big hand try not to get involved when you have enough chips to force a player to think about a call.


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