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the movies

  • 08-11-2005 10:04am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭


    enyone else looking forward to this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Yes. Looks like it could either be a lot of fun, but there is always the problem that Lionhead games have suffered from: over-hype. There is also very little chance of a demo.

    I expect RoosterTeeth to be getting their copies free :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭madrab


    yeah, as much as i love lionheads original game ideas, their execution sometimes isnt as good as it should be

    but if this game works well, imagine the amout of new crap on the internet :) just look at what garrys mod did for hl2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Is it out today or Friday? I've heard conflicting reports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    i have been waiting for ages for this :D but yeah lionhead do come up with brillant ideas and just fail to put them together... waiting on reviews to decide if ill spent 50eur on it on friday
    its out in the US today (the 8th) and EU on friday (11th)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,392 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    anybody try the demo?

    have it at home but just don't have time to try it out


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Didn't even know there was a demo. Well that'll give me something to do until Friday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭CombatCow


    Pretty sure there is no demo.... have yah got a link ??? not expecting great things from the game, tho it does look like an interesting concept.

    :v:
    CC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭madrab


    are you thinking of the starmaker program?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,392 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    ahhh, thats what it could be madrab. Didn't even install it > just assumed it was a playable demo.

    my badd.

    :v:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Maccattack


    yes. ive been waiting on this for ages. it was supposed to be out about two years ago.

    Hopefully its decent coz like you say its a great idea.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Biggest thing to overcome in this game is how are they planning on making a game from it?

    Plus it's biggest selling point: making your own movies. Is also it's weakest. Watching a movie you made yourself is pointless as you know what's going to happen and will it be worth paying so much money for something to watch other peoples amateur movies??? I don't think so.

    I think this will be like the sims, will be great for a day, boring afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,996 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Yeah it true, what the actual game is supposed to be is kinda vague. As I understand it its like Movies Tycoon or something, hiring actors, scripts, man management, building up your studio and the actual moviemaking section is supposed to be the gimmick that sells the rest? Like you said, the movie making bit will get old really fast unless youre incredibly talented in which case why would you need The Movies for your machinima?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    the movie making section is suppost to b very simple yet powerful overall it seems like an incredible orginal idea and fair play to lionhead for making it. but yes the idea of making movies does sound like it can get boring fast which just leaves it as another <industry> tycoon game :(
    its going to be released on all formats (i think?) does not seem like a kinda game that u could play on a console


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Sand wrote:
    why would you need The Movies for your machinima?

    Because it's easier. I know you can make great machinima with HL2 for example but there is no easy way to figure out how without researching loads of different angles - map making, model making, sound recording and importing, camera manipulation and so on. The Movies, if it works, will let people put their ideas to work without spending a year working out how to manage it. I am excited about this because I love the idea of machinima and have never had the time to invest in it. Only annoying thing now is that they have a very expensive special edition coming out too but with loads of set, model, sounds etc. which is tempting.
    Anyway I'll wait for the reviews too because I want to be sure it works well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    http://pc.ign.com/articles/665/665338p1.html ign 8/10
    on the lionhead boards one poster said pc zone uk gave it 95%....
    all are in the 80-90 really expect maybe gamespy who gave it 3.5/5
    its more then enough for me :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭madrab


    yep seems good enough for me too

    hopefully something good comes about from this

    *runs off to start making a second season of firefly*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Ri_Nollaig wrote:
    http://pc.ign.com/articles/665/665338p1.html ign 8/10
    on the lionhead boards one poster said pc zone uk gave it 95%....
    all are in the 80-90 really expect maybe gamespy who gave it 3.5/5
    its more then enough for me :D

    While in general I listen and take note of PCZones reviews as far as I'm concerned PCZone is just an extension of Lionheads PR Department.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    While in general I listen and take note of PCZones reviews as far as I'm concerned PCZone is just an extension of Lionheads PR Department.
    yeah! they gave black and white 2 something in region of 92%!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    ign wrote:
    . The films use canned animations on a variety of sets with plenty of extra props to add flair. This certainly has limitations

    CANNED ANIMATIONS.
    does this mean we can obviously only pick select few actions, but despite that would you be still able to move characters around.

    i would have liked something with total freedom [adding in your won textures and movements etc] bit hard though since this game is concentrating on actually being a producer etc


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    There is a review on Boomtown which is a bit more glowing than Gamespy and IGN but the reason I point to it is I recommend you download his two movies particularly the Boomtown reviews The Movies film which does a good job of explaining some of the things you can do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    to download the vid youve linked =
    have to be a member to download.
    have to pay to be a member ?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Placebo wrote:
    to download the vid youve linked =
    have to be a member to download.
    have to pay to be a member ?

    Nope choose the free membership option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    well i bought it yesterday and i have to say i love it :D
    so far i have really only played the tycoon part and it is good. u have huge options in wat way u want ur movie made and the radio guy is actually really fun. i have just had a quick look at u can make ur own movies and there really is a huge amount of stuff to choose from. u can pick an era and even add in your own voice lip-sycned! ofcourse to actually make a good movie that people would want to download would really require some talent :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭corblimey


    I got it yesterday and was pretty "ho hum" about it until I finally got my hands on the Custom Script office. This opens up the entire game in a whole new way - you directly control every facet of your movie, plot, sets, backdrops, costumes. I'm still in the 20s, but I assume that when the 'talkies' come around, I'll be able to add voice and music and all that too.

    The tycoon side is pretty fun too. A little too much micromanagement for my tastes (you have to make sure your director doesn't just wander off set for a drink), but I guess that's the way most sim games are these days.

    One problem I've had is that I can't get into the Studio Attractiveness screen, pressing L does nothing for me. Anyone else had this problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭madrab


    Uwe Boll inc is now in production :)

    my first movie that i made(took ages to get it right) didnt work out too well, as my actors and actresses were soo drunk and unhappy they never got changed into the costumes they were assigned


    think my next game will be a version of halo :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,092 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    is there any way to export the movies so we can have a look?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    1st Boards porn movie gets into Cannes!!!



    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    Tusky wrote:
    is there any way to export the movies so we can have a look?
    yeah the game can export them as wmv for uploading ...very nice touch by lionhead i have to admite, will probably create a huge community cause of this

    p.s. i love ur sig ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭madrab


    best one i have seen yet

    http://movies.lionhead.com/movie/1168


    it should be interesting over the next few weeks to see what people come up with


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    KdjaC wrote:
    1st Boards porn movie gets into Cannes!!!



    kdjac
    is that a promise? :p


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    I don't know how many movies you have watched but it is suceptible to repetition. If I see one more spinning camera going into a someones mouth or the sniper scene from Saving Private Ryan....
    I think it will take time for the quality to appear but it will take even more for them to be recognised since the world and his mother will be submitting movies to get access to the free stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    I made a movie, it made no sense, there were random costume changes and hair changes, gay cowboys, and the bad guy changed several times. Sandbox-mode is handy if you want to make a custom movie (without playing the Tycoon part). Will play around with it some more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭madrab


    yea i think i have mad 3 gay movies & only one of them was on purpose

    1 lesbian romance (on purpose :D )
    1 lesbian horror (random script with 2 actors i put in)
    1 gay comedy (random script with 2 actors i put in)

    the commedy was the best one, & was actually funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    can someone tell me the specs for this game. Min.

    Would it be poissble to make something [im only intrested in making a small film, probably use a cheat to access all props etc]

    -Lip sync etc ? add your own voice
    -How good is character editing [are there just given models]
    -Action wise [anyway to make your own] ? EG: you can tell them where to walk atleast ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    u can unlock the extra stuff for the sandbox mode by doing this
    go to: C:\Documents and Settings\[Your User Name]\Application Data\Lionhead Studios\The Movies\Unlocking.ini the folder is hidden so make sure u can view hidden folders then change the contents to b like:

    highest_decade = 2000
    [prizes]
    RANKPRIZE_1
    RANKPRIZE_2
    ....
    RANKPRIZE_24
    RANKPRIZE_25

    fill it all in 1 to 25

    lip sync i havnt done yet suppost to b good and easy to use
    action wise there is alot of stuff but its all predefined as in set actions etc
    watch some of the movie people have already made to quickly see what u can do
    main site:http://movies.lionhead.com/movies
    my favourite: http://movies.lionhead.com/movie/1517

    specs are low too:
    Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP
    Pentium III 800 MHz or Athlon 800MHz processor or higher
    256MB RAM
    8x Speed CD-ROM drive and latest drivers
    2.4 GB of uncompressed free hard disk space (plus 500MB for Windows swap file)
    100% DirectX 9.0c compatible 16-bit sound card and latest drivers
    100% Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP compatible mouse, keyboard and latest drivers
    DirectX 9.0c (included)
    Updated Windows Media Player 9 Codecs (included)
    800 x 600 Monitor Resolution
    100% DirectX 9.0c compatible 32MB Hardware T&L-capable video card and latest drivers*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Placebo wrote:
    can someone tell me the specs for this game. Min.

    Would it be poissble to make something [im only intrested in making a small film, probably use a cheat to access all props etc]

    -Lip sync etc ? add your own voice
    -How good is character editing [are there just given models]
    -Action wise [anyway to make your own] ? EG: you can tell them where to walk atleast ?

    Yes you can record your own voice during the playback in post production, and then lip synch it to the actors.
    The character editing is quite strong, there is a program called Starmarker that comes with it that lets you do just about anything, raising/ lowering cheekbones, aligning eyebrows, changing forehead size...even the width of the bride of the nose. So yeah...very very open.
    All the scenes are stored, but there...lots... So you would have one called "walks into shot with briefcase", but then could change it a litte by adjusting which hand he holds it in and what type of briefcase it is, but its not really possible to change actors movements whatever way you want...I mean, its a game, not an animation suite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭ChumpStain


    I'm having trouble installing it. In that I can't. You see my computer only has one drive and it won't install because the game contains technology to prevent copying. Does anyone know a way around this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    ChumpStain wrote:
    I'm having trouble installing it. In that I can't. You see my computer only has one drive and it won't install because the game contains technology to prevent copying. Does anyone know a way around this?

    you could try partitioning your harddrive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    tba wrote:
    you could try partitioning your harddrive
    I presume he meant disc drive... I don't see at all how an extra HDD partition would solve anything. Unless it happened to be the most retarded copy protection scheme on the planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    ChumpStain wrote:
    I'm having trouble installing it. In that I can't. You see my computer only has one drive and it won't install because the game contains technology to prevent copying. Does anyone know a way around this?


    What SPECIFICALLY is the problem and how is your hard drive set up. I have NEVER come accross a game that refuses to install as a result of copy protection.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭Squall


    It happens(albeit usually after installing). Some games have programs that create virtual drives blacklisted. Try uninstalling any software you use to burn CD's/DVD's.


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