coloured writting in mymail

snorlax

does anyone know how to change the colour? iv being trying to figure it out for ages and i just got this email from someone in CS and somehow they managed to change it (from their tcd account).

also, can you get little pictures in it? i wouldn't mind using my rose!

Nietzschean

from what i can see (i don't use horde much) it seems to send all the messages as plain text rather than html, so such formatting isn't possible.


You can of course setup any local client and create HTML emails and just set the from address in your client to that of your tcd account so it would appear to orginate from there...

snorlax

thanks,:)! i just did that on gmail, although i don't think gmail allows lttle pictures.

Nietzschean

generally you would have to have the picture as an attachment for something like that..... or the much more common method is since its all html, put the picture somewhere else(some random website) and then just use img tags...google might support that


and google won't set your from address to the college one it will set the replyto address however(most clients when replying to your mail will send it to your tcd account)

wheresthebeef

i was trying to make myself a signature for mymail and thought i was being really clever by formatting it in a HTML edittor and then copying over the code to the signature. All i wanted was my name in bold turqoise and then my details underneath in grey. so simple and yet so impossible.
i tried using outlook express, but students cant connect via POP or SMTP. it sucks.

Nietzschean

umm can they not? they probally have to use POP3S but sure thats just good practice..........
(you can also use IMAPS from home too...)


As for SMTP you can use your ISP's SMTP server usually with no ill effects...

bbrazil

wheresthebeef wrote:

but students cant connect via POP or SMTP. it sucks.

You certainly can't do SMTP from outside college, but POPS and IMAPS are available.
POP and IMAP are available within college, but they should be turned off within a month or so.


Has anyone ever told you that HTML in email is wrong?

snorlax

what on earth is IMAPS, you've lost me..

bbrazil

snorlax wrote:

what on earth is IMAPS, you've lost me..

IMAP with SSL. (i.e. secure IMAP)

wheresthebeef

what i am saying is that students cannot collect their email via POP3 connections i.e they cannot use outlook or thunderbird etc....
students must access their mail using MyMail, which is an IMAP based thing, isnt it.
Only staff can access mail via POP3 etc..

Is that correct?

Nietzschean

no i'm afraid your off by quite a bit......Staff/student access to mail is the exact same currently as far as i'm aware.

External to the college the only way to access your mail is via POP3S or IMAPS (which both outlook and thunderbird support...)

Internally POP3S+POP3 /IMAPS+IMAP all work, but POP3 and IMAP are due to be discontinued.

Mymail is indeed an IMAP application(IMAPS probally now), its just an implmentation of IMP which is part of Horde.


Hope that clears it up a bit?

bbrazil

wheresthebeef wrote:

what i am saying is that students cannot collect their email via POP3 connections i.e they cannot use outlook or thunderbird etc....
students must access their mail using MyMail, which is an IMAP based thing, isnt it.
Only staff can access mail via POP3 etc..

Is that correct?

No it isn't.

Firstly official policy is that noone can access mail via POP3 or IMAP - there's still a small number of staff who haven't migrated though. Its planned to turn that off pretty soon so don't start using it.

Secondly anyone can use IMAPS to get at there mail from anywhere in the world. I haven't checked with POPS, but I assume its the same.

Thirdly MyMail is the only supported way for undergards to access their email. However POPS and IMAPS do work. I use IMAPS from matrix myself - infact I can claim to be one of 4 people that were using IMAPS before the switch over to SSL.

wheresthebeef

ok. i get it now. i am using POPS now with Mozilla Thunderbird. So what your saying is that ISS wont support me accessing my mail by POPS, but the facility will be there should i choose to do so?

The only thing is. If you cant send email from a Local Client i.e such as Outlook or Thunderbird as there is no SMTP. How can you send emails with formatted text in them? It still doesnt defeat the problem.
I even tried formatting the emails first and then sending them to myself and i could forward the formatted elements to people. And MyMail just happily converts them into Plain Text. I hates it.

bbrazil

wheresthebeef wrote:

ok. i get it now. i am using POPS now with Mozilla Thunderbird. So what your saying is that ISS wont support me accessing my mail by POPS, but the facility will be there should i choose to do so?

Yip

wheresthebeef wrote:

The only thing is. If you cant send email from a Local Client i.e such as Outlook or Thunderbird as there is no SMTP. How can you send emails with formatted text in them? It still doesnt defeat the problem.
I even tried formatting the emails first and then sending them to myself and i could forward the formatted elements to people. And MyMail just happily converts them into Plain Text. I hates it.

I consider that to be a feature. Email == text != formatted text.

Nietzschean

use your ISP's smtp server.... who do you use to connect to the internet with at home?

wheresthebeef

nah. cos i cant send to the class G-List from my ISP's server. its just needlessly stupid and annoying.
I know how to set up SMTP for my other mail providers.

Nietzschean

wheresthebeef wrote:

nah. cos i cant send to the class G-List from my ISP's server. its just needlessly stupid and annoying.
I know how to set up SMTP for my other mail providers.

Hrmm didn't know the college blocked external SMTP servers from sending to the G-lists, though it does make sence to do such. You could try smtp auth but iirc the college doesn't support it.... Either that now or create an ssh tunnel thru netsoc/maths n send it to the smtp server that way...

bbrazil

Serenity wrote:

Hrmm didn't know the college blocked external SMTP servers from sending to the G-lists, though it does make sence to do such. You could try smtp auth but iirc the college doesn't support it.... Either that now or create an ssh tunnel thru netsoc/maths n send it to the smtp server that way...

My understanding is that the only way (as an undergrad anyway) to send to the G lists is via MyMail.

Nietzschean

mymail not just using a specific smtp server?

bbrazil

Serenity wrote:

mymail not just using a specific smtp server?

Looking at some headers I'd have to say no - its using the usual server. I don't think there's a way around it.

Nietzschean

you tried using an internal client and the tcd smtp server? if its just using the same server then they'd have to bother themselves a bit to code it so only one ip was allowed to send to those lists.... Reeeks of effort.....