Bargain or Ripoff?

vibe666

PC World in Blanch have a 25 pack spindle of 4x dvd+rw's (Imation) for €29.99. Funnily enough they have identical dvd+r's for the same price. not sure if that makes it a bargain or not, as i did a price check on them and you can get them for $19 in the US, but it might be considered cheap for ireland. anyone know how the other retailers shape up?

Dingatron

Think that's not bad. Komplett do a 5 pack for €7.10. I'd say they might be priced wrong.

cdebru

make sure they are rewritable
rw can be on +Rs without them being rewritable
afaik it refers to them being able to be written to more than once

vibe666

in that case, BARGAIN ALERT!

Lissavane

cdebru wrote:

make sure they are rewritable
rw can be on +Rs without them being rewritable
afaik it refers to them being able to be written to more than once

What's the difference between rewritable and "being able to be written on more than once"?

mad m

Lissavane wrote:

What's the difference between rewritable and "being able to be written on more than once"?

you've answered your own question....rewritable allowing to blank and re-write over dvd and one of means once off

Saruman

mad m wrote:

you've answered your own question....rewritable allowing to blank and re-write over dvd and one of means once off

I think what he is trying to say is that a re-writable you can erase and write again maybe 1000 times or so. Any CD writable or DVD writable allows you to write a disk, leave it open and add more content.. but you cant erase the disk and use it again.

Lissavane

mad m wrote:

you've answered your own question....rewritable allowing to blank and re-write over dvd and one of means once off

That explains it nicely. Thanks.

Lissavane

Saruman wrote:

I think what he is trying to say is that a re-writable you can erase and write again maybe 1000 times or so. Any CD writable or DVD writable allows you to write a disk, leave it open and add more content.. but you cant erase the disk and use it again.

Fair play to you - I understand it now.

cdebru

exactly they can be left open to be written to again
but you cannot erase what you have put on the disc

if the disc just has rw but does not say rewritable then it can not be erased
it's just to confuse you

tribble

To further confuse you.

If a disk is +RW format or -RW format compible it may be of two types, R or RW.

R = write once
RW = rewritable

So...

+R = +RW standard write once
+RW = +RW standard rewiteable
-R = -RW standard write once
-RW = -RW standard rewiteable

There is also DVD-RAM which is making something of a comeback (fastest rewritable disk is currently a 5X DVD-RAM) - but these are rare in PC drives (only LG and Panasonic make them)..

gubby

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Round Cable

Thanks for this, however I couldn't get near Blanch today, let that be a lesson Christmas starts in October in these shopping centres.

savemejebus

i got some imation dvd+rws in pcworld on special ages ago and they are really good so would heartily endorse them, they work on everything i've thrown them into, ps2, xbox, normal dvd player and cheap and nasty pc dvd drive.

vibe666

they're defo RE-Wirtable though, not just write once media.

it's marked in several places on the disc.

oh, and as for the writing on a disc more than once, but not erasing them that's multisession, and afaik all dvd/cd media and drives these days support multi-session.

kinkstr

www.mediawrite.ie
spindle of 25 dvd+r for around 15 euro they accept cheques or postal orders,have a look because im not sure if thats the right price i think they may be slightly cheaper

cdebru

vibe666 wrote:

they're defo RE-Wirtable though, not just write once media.

it's marked in several places on the disc.

oh, and as for the writing on a disc more than once, but not erasing them that's multisession, and afaik all dvd/cd media and drives these days support multi-session.

afaik dvd-r cannot be multisessioned
whereas dvd+r can be multisessioned hence they put rw on them even though they are not erasable/rewritable
however I looked at the ones in pc world and they are rewritable
good price

CivilServant

If it's dvd+rw then it's simply rewriteable. Nobody would put RW on a record once disk. Also multisession means that after you burn and do not close the disk you can continue to burn if there is still available space. This can be done on all formats DVD-R and DVD+R and rewriteables.

cdebru

CivilServant wrote:

If it's dvd+rw then it's simply rewriteable. Nobody would put RW on a record once disk. Also multisession means that after you burn and do not close the disk you can continue to burn if there is still available space. This can be done on all formats DVD-R and DVD+R and rewriteables.

if you like i can show you a +r disc that has rw on the disc but is not rewritable it is a datasafe disc

again afaik you can not leave a -r disc open although i have never tried

vibe666

no that you mention it, i just looked at a TDK DVD+R and it has RW written on it as well. talk about confusing people.

why on earth would they put RW on a disc that isn't re-writable? it was the standard for CD's to be either R or RW so why confuse things now?

tribble

vibe666 wrote:

no that you mention it, i just looked at a TDK DVD+R and it has RW written on it as well. talk about confusing people.

why on earth would they put RW on a disc that isn't re-writable? it was the standard for CD's to be either R or RW so why confuse things now?

Yeah - My Verbatims do too.
It's technically correct - the disks do conform to the DVD+RW standard, it's just they're not rewritable.
They should leave it off.

cdebru

vibe666 wrote:

no that you mention it, i just looked at a TDK DVD+R and it has RW written on it as well. talk about confusing people.

why on earth would they put RW on a disc that isn't re-writable? it was the standard for CD's to be either R or RW so why confuse things now?

thank you

apology (cough) civilservant(cough)

yes i agree it is dumb that s why i mentioned it in the beginning as if you did not look too closely you could easily buy them thinking they were rewritable

what i was told was that dvd-r are not or were not multisessionable ie dvd-r are doa (disc at once)
dvd+r are multisession and they were using it to highlight that you could write to the disc more than once

but it is just confusing

tribble

Peronally I just prefer the DVD+RW's better error correction.
I don't reallty care for multisession and if I want UDF I use DVD-RAM.

CivilServant

cdebru wrote:

thank you

apology (cough) civilservant(cough)

yes i agree it is dumb that s why i mentioned it in the beginning as if you did not look too closely you could easily buy them thinking they were rewritable

what i was told was that dvd-r are not or were not multisessionable ie dvd-r are doa (disc at once)
dvd+r are multisession and they were using it to highlight that you could write to the disc more than once

but it is just confusing

I'm not apologising for TDK's mistake. Did you buy the disk knowing it was record once or rewriteable?

cdebru

CivilServant wrote:

I'm not apologising for TDK's mistake. Did you buy the disk knowing it was record once or rewriteable?

it's not a mistake its on datasafe,verbatim,tdk and if you look at the argos catalogue you can see the rw logo on a box of imaiton +r discs

it is standard

i knew they were record once i was just mentioning it to other people in case they made a mistake

Mimikyu

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CivilServant

It is a mistake. If it can only record once, then it should be +R. Rewriteables should be RW. It confuses people to say otherwise.

cdebru

CivilServant wrote:

It is a mistake. If it can only record once, then it should be +R. Rewriteables should be RW. It confuses people to say otherwise.

it was a mistake for you to post in the first place as you clearly don't know what you are talking about

we know the way it should be with +R and +RW but that is not the way it is
someone like you jumping in half cocked only adds to the confusion for people

perhaps next time you might do some research before you shoot your mouth off

CivilServant

It's unfortunate that you took offence to it. Can you agree that TDK, Verbatim et al shouldn't put RW on a disk that can only write once?

cdebru

CivilServant wrote:

It's unfortunate that you took offence to it. Can you agree that TDK, Verbatim et al shouldn't put RW on a disk that can only write once?

i couldn't agree more it is stupidity and only confuses people

btw no offence i'm just a bit bitchy today

tribble

1/ It is confusing.
2/ It is however factually correct - the standard is known as DVD+RW of which there are 2 flavours of discs +R and +RW (dual layer doesn't enter into this).

This is evidenced by the trade association DVD+RW Alliance which governs the format who's website is http://www.dvdrw.com/

vibe666

damn, they don't make it easy, do they!

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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I got a 100 pack spindle in Peats 3 or 4 weeks ago for €25. that said they won't write over 16x, but at that price I don't mind waiting an extra 2 or 3 minutes to burn a disc.

Explosive_Cornflake

There a shop at the top of capel street (the bolton st end), PC Smart, yellow front, small, beside bargin booze. They have some great prices on media.
25 cd-r for €7
25 dvd +/- for €20.