Old Stuff

EdBanger

I'm looking to do some Research into 1st and 2nd Ed material for 40k, towards a RPG I'm trying to write, if any body has any old background materal, Wargear cards Fluff or Rules that the can Donate/leand or (dare I say it) copy, it would be most appreacated. also links are good.

http://bolterandchainsword.ibforums.com/
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/
http://www.gwgateway.com/
http://www.librarium-online.com/
http://www.ordnancetemplate.com/html/index.php
http://www.thewarp.net/war/imperial/
http://bootae.ibforums.com/index.php?
http://www.thewarp.net/

these are some of the sites I've been using thus far for Reseach
and heres one that dose a WHFRPG conversion to 40k
http://www.goblin-online.net/fortyk/wfkrp.html
Shame WHFRPG is pretty much only a Combat system.

I'm hoping to make a broad rangeing Gritty and Grusome RPG with all the Flavour of 40k, its mostly based on 2nd Ed as 3rd ed lost a lot of the detail that is imporant for a RPG but it will also cover non combat gaming and detailed civilian life.

any help/sugestions welcome
edbanger@gmail.com

Sarky

A good friend of mine has the original Rogue Trader rule/background book. There's no way he'll part with it, but I can certainly look stuff up for you...

EdBanger

Yeah I used to have a rather old and battered Coveless copy, its what we started gaming on back in the day, but the Friends older Bro took it back eventualy. Still have the Compendium some where.

now those were proper 40k where it took three weeks to wirte up the wargear list for you force comander hehe.

oh how I miss my Beard

Lemming

I have a .... lot .... of 1st/2nd edition material that you might be able to use. Of course, some of it I will not allow out of my sight, so you'd probably have to skim through it whilst I'm there with you.

I've most of the 2nd ed rules, Rogue Trader (hardback), the two realms of chaos books (hardback - and not leaving my sight) etc.

Sarky

Sadly, the Ork musicians were before my time. How I would like to have experienced the Goff band...

DrummerBoy

I should have nearly all the codex's for you to look through 2nd edition and all the old SpaceMarine (epic) books with history etc

hairyheretic

I have


Rogue Trader
Chapter Approved : Book of the Astronomican
Compendium
Companion
Both Realm of Chaos books

A variety of 2nd ed books

All the 3rd ed codexes

Whilst I'm not prepared to lend them out, I can bring them to the Guild to let you read through them.

Also, do a search for the 40k fluff bible online. It has a lot of the older fluff saved. I've a few other electronic formats of old books, or bits and pieces of them.

EdBanger

thank you all for your Generosity, I'll look up the fluff bible now,

in the mean time any bits or bobs that you'd like to see included from the good old days?

Sarky

Ork Shokk Attack gunz.

Lemming

EdBanger wrote:

thank you all for your Generosity, I'll look up the fluff bible now,

in the mean time any bits or bobs that you'd like to see included from the good old days?

The sensei and the illuminati (I think you could work some magnificent RPG plots for the Insquisition/Imperial Forces at large from the background material), the Eldar Black Library, and Titans.

Sarky

Titans? You just gave me a lovely idea... /me begins writing a special ops scenario...

hairyheretic

EdBanger wrote:

thank you all for your Generosity, I'll look up the fluff bible now,

in the mean time any bits or bobs that you'd like to see included from the good old days?

Agree with Lemming, the sensei and illuminati are very cool, but I think their idea has been pretty much abandoned by GW.

I started with the Realm of Chaos chaos .. this was when knowledge that Chaos even existed was enough to get you a short walk with a friendly Inquisitor waiting at the end of it. Entire worlds and armies were destroyed after fighting chaos, simply because they then knew it existed. Rogue Trader was a much darker time. Its nice to see 40k moving back in that direction.

Lemming

hairyheretic wrote:

Agree with Lemming, the sensei and illuminati are very cool, but I think their idea has been pretty much abandoned by GW.

no need to "follow the crowd" there

I started with the Realm of Chaos chaos .. this was when knowledge that Chaos even existed was enough to get you a short walk with a friendly Inquisitor waiting at the end of it. Entire worlds and armies were destroyed after fighting chaos, simply because they then knew it existed. Rogue Trader was a much darker time. Its nice to see 40k moving back in that direction.

Indeed, GW held that particular imperial dictate into 2nd edition W40k - with the history of the 1st Armageddon War and why the Space Wolves never forgave the imperial administratum for what it did to millions of loyal soldiers of the imperial guard by locking them all up in hidden "camps" across armageddon so that their knowledge of chaos would die with them.

hairyheretic

Lemming wrote:

no need to "follow the crowd" there

If you're thinking of yourself as a crowd, its time to stop listening to the voices dude <G>

Lemming wrote:

Indeed, GW held that particular imperial dictate into 2nd edition W40k - with the history of the 1st Armageddon War and why the Space Wolves never forgave the imperial administratum for what it did to millions of loyal soldiers of the imperial guard by locking them all up in hidden "camps" across armageddon so that their knowledge of chaos would die with them.

IIRC they sterilised the surviving civilian population, used them as forced labour to rebuild the hives, then shipped them off to the other continent to die, and repopulated the planet from elsewhere.

The soldiers .. can't remember how they were killed, but destroying the troop transports and chalking it down to pirate eldar was always a favourite.

Lemming

hairyheretic wrote:

If you're thinking of yourself as a crowd, its time to stop listening to the voices dude <G>

IIRC they sterilised the surviving civilian population, used them as forced labour to rebuild the hives, then shipped them off to the other continent to die, and repopulated the planet from elsewhere.

The soldiers .. can't remember how they were killed, but destroying the troop transports and chalking it down to pirate eldar was always a favourite.

If I recall, the local PDF were locked up with the civilians and left to rot. And it is this that Logan Grimnar (chapter master of the Space Wolves) has never forgiven

hairyheretic

Lemming wrote:

If I recall, the local PDF were locked up with the civilians and left to rot. And it is this that Logan Grimnar (chapter master of the Space Wolves) has never forgiven

Yeah, the PDF were left with the rest of the planet population. I was refering to the soldiers brought in from elsewhere.

The marines weren't killed, but in RT days they were tradationally mindscrubbed back to drooling idiocy .. so no real change there