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Mountain Survival Problem Quiz

  • 10-11-2004 1:03pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭


    The situation. Your charter flight has just crash landed in some remote mountains somewhere in the Alps, 5000 ft above sea level . It's 12 noon in mid January
    The twin-engine 10 passenger plane containing the bodies of the pilot and one other passenger has been completely burned. Only the air frame remains. None of the rest of you 9 people have been seriously injured.
    The pilot was unable to send a mayday in the blinding snowstorm. The crashsite is rugged and wooded, and just below the treeline. There is a heavy snow covering. You are dressed in medium weight cloathing and each of you have a top coat.

    Before the plane caught fire, your group managed to salvage 15 items on which your survival depends
    Rank the follow items 1 to 15 - '1' being the most important.
    Sectioned air map
    Flashlight (4 battery size)
    Four wool blankets
    One rifle with ammunition
    One pair of skis
    Half bottle of brandy
    One cosmetic mirror
    Jack-knife
    Four pairs of sun glasses
    Three books of matches
    One metal coffee pot
    First aid kit
    One dozen packets of peanuts
    One clear plastic tarpaulin (3m x 4m)
    One large gift-wrapped decorative candle


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 989 ✭✭✭MrNuked


    The mirror is one of the important ones isn't it? It would be the most useful for catching the eye of a potential rescuer provided the sun is out.
    And the air map probably shows where planes would pass by most frequently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Commissar


    I could kill a monkey. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    id go with the brandy for the session afterwards!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭sprinkles


    Sounds like I'm gonna die anyway so:

    Brandy then peanuts, need something to nibble on. Then sunglasses to look cool, don't want to die looking like idiot, and a mirror just to make sure i look cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 989 ✭✭✭MrNuked


    Soaking the wool blankets with brandy then putting them on the tarpaulin which is spread out on the gournd and setting them on fire would be good to catch a pilot's eye too. One person goes off on skis with the map to find somewhere planes will be passing and does that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    Sectioned air map 14
    Flashlight (4 battery size) 12
    Four wool blankets 1
    One rifle with ammunition 8
    One pair of skis 13
    Half bottle of brandy 9
    One cosmetic mirror 4
    Jack-knife 6
    Four pairs of sun glasses 11
    Three books of matches 13
    One metal coffee pot 3
    First aid kit 10
    One dozen packets of peanuts 7
    One clear plastic tarpaulin (3m x 4m) 2
    One large gift-wrapped decorative candle 5


    most important is heat, light and water


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    they would also need the sun glasses to stop getting blinded by the snow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Swarfboy


    Ring the emergency services on yer mobile... and don't say nobody has one...Find 9 people today in a group without one of them having a mobile...
    While ya wait... sit back throw on the shades and drink the brandy...
    JJJJJJJJJeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss man does nobody know the basics anymore..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    and roast marshmallows on the fire from the plane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭K2


    too easy...the sheet of plastic is the most valuable item. If you don't know why then I guess you will just have to die if you find yourself in the described situation ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    to keep in your body heat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    Swarfboy wrote:
    Ring the emergency services on yer mobile...
    Mobiles wouldn't work in a remote part of the mountains.;)

    Similarly skiing into the valley would be stupid as it is remote and splitting the group and sending one off skiing wherever over rugged terrain is a bit silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    K2 wrote:
    too easy...the sheet of plastic is the most valuable item. If you don't know why then I guess you will just have to die if you find yourself in the described situation ;)

    water collection I would have thought in a normal situation to collect dew, but in this case there is a lot of snow about so you just melt that in the coffee can, only other reason is shelter.

    You have a nick after a mountain so let us in on your gems, or is it too easy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    1. First aid kit - Nobody's going to be able to get help if you're all dead
    2. Half bottle of brandy - Sterilise wounds
    3. One clear plastic tarpaulin (3m x 4m) - to set up a makeshift shelter, same reason as 1.
    4. Four wool blankets - as above
    5. Flashlight (4 battery size)
    6. One cosmetic mirror - equal to flashlight, both can be used to signal for help, day and night.
    7. Three books of matches - to light a fire. Keeps you warm and makes you obvious
    8. One metal coffee pot - to boil water on said fire for further cleaning of wounds, and for safe drinking of snow.
    9. One pair of skis
    10. Sectioned air map
    11. One rifle with ammunition
    12. Four pairs of sun glasses
    13. Jack-knife
    14. One dozen packets of peanuts
    15. One large gift-wrapped decorative candle


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    why two no.8s?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    woosaysdan wrote:
    why two no.8s?
    I was wondering why it only went up to 14 :D I'll edit it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭K2


    your only priority is to stay warm! The rescure services know where you are, it is a charter flight, its the middle of the day, the plane is on fire producing lots of black smoke, a first aid kit will only do so much, a lot of which can be improvised, and drinking brandy is a bad idea, it will not help you stay warm. Oh and having climbed in the alps I, personnally would wait for the lift in the heli, feck walking out. Squeze everbody under the plastic making sure you are sitting between two cute air hostess and wait, what you do in that time to stay warm is up to you :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭PH01


    K2 wrote:
    too easy...the sheet of plastic is the most valuable item. If you don't know why then I guess you will just have to die if you find yourself in the described situation ;)
    Correct.
    Plastic Sheet is No.1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 989 ✭✭✭MrNuked


    The plane is no longer on fire as it has been "completely burned" already. The implication is that nobody knows where you are, since the pilots were unable to send a distress signal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    you could always just take the rifle and shoot everyone and take all the stuff for yourself until you get rescued!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭PH01


    woosaysdan wrote:
    you could always just take the rifle and shoot everyone and take all the stuff for yourself until you get rescued!!!
    And once rescued, you'll be arrested for the murders of eight people.
    "Curses! I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    you'll be arrested for the murders of eight people.
    eat them, dump them burn them. just make sure there isnt any. Or claim someone else went crazy and shot them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    Unpossible wrote:
    eat them, dump them burn them. just make sure there isnt any. Or claim someone else went crazy and shot them
    exactly whose to say you shot them!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭sprinkles


    PH01 wrote:
    Correct.
    Plastic Sheet is No.1
    Oh this is actually a quiz! right......

    Plastic sheet eh......

    You take the plastic sheet, me and those sexy airhostess' are going to get cosy with the brandy on the pile of clothes I've just stripped off the other 6 people I just shot with the shotgun. Of course I'll be wearing the sunglasses, other wise I'd look uncool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    Commissar wrote:
    I could kill a monkey. :eek:

    ahh but could you catch a monkey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭PH01


    sprinkles wrote:
    ...Of course I'll be wearing the sunglasses, other wise I'd look uncool.
    I can tell you got a thing for sunglasses :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    skywalker wrote:
    ahh but could you catch a monkey.
    who needs to catch one when you have a rifle!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Grand so, stick the tarpaulin up first on my list. Then put the peanuts just above the rifle, and the jack-knife just below. Use the peanuts to attract small birds, shoot the with the rifle, and gut them with the jack knife.

    Genius.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    i dont think there will be much left of the birds after you shoot them!!:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭PH01


    Unpossible wrote:
    eat them, dump them burn them. just make sure there isnt any. Or claim someone else went crazy and shot them
    Now your thinking.
    Food is very important. There's enough bodies that would supply you for months. All you have to do now is make a shelter, keep it warm with the blankets and fire. You could live like a king for months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    all hail king woosaysdan king of the mountains all i have to do is train some monkeys to be slaves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    ha that powerpoint one is very like my list, with blankets first and tarpaulin second, logic would be the same as mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    tut tut tut thats cheating :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭PH01


    Blub2k4 wrote:
    ha that powerpoint one is very like my list, with blankets first and tarpaulin second, logic would be the same as mine.
    Yip Blub, you got it the right way unlike Rabies.
    Anyway I had forgotten the answers myself, so thanks Rabies for finding them ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭Rossonero


    the matches or else the knife


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    Attach the skis to someone's back and ride their corpse down the mountain to safety?

    And if you get hungry on the way you can cook a little with the coffee can and the candle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    have a romantic candle lit supper


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭PH01


    1. One rifle with ammunition - First of all you'll need this for protection from the others. They're out to get you, you know.
    2. Half bottle of brandy - How else are you going to great drunk? Duh!
    3. Four pairs of sun glasses - How else are you to make yourself look cool. Take one and destroy the rest. And while your at it, take the uniform off the dead captain. With it and the sunglasses you'll have no problem attracting the laydees.
    4. One cosmetic mirror - You gotta look at yourself! Duh!
    5. One dozen packets of peanuts - For dinner with the air hostesses.
    6. One large gift-wrapped decorative candle - Let's turn the lights down low and light this baby...
    7. One pair of skis - Skiing is another way to impress the laydees! Duh!
    8. Jack-knife - to show off your knife throwing skills
    9. First aid kit - for when you cut yourself (see 8. Jack knife)
    10. Sectioned air map - to light a fire.
    11. Three books of matches - gotta light that fire! Duh!
    12. One metal coffee pot - Put it on the fire to melt snow to make a brew for your 'guests'.
    13. One clear plastic tarpaulin (3m x 4m) - to make a shelter for you and your 'guests'.
    14. Four wool blankets - to make a bed. Yaa baby!
    15. Flashlight (4 battery size) - just incase you need light to see where you're going. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    Lol


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