Irish law concerning Salvia Divinorum extract?

Tellox

hi, er,can someone tell me if any problems would arise if I ordered the following;
http://www.spiritgarden.co.uk/cart/index.pl?cat_id=8&pro_id=50

Sarky

It probably depends on how bloody-minded the customs guys will be.

A friend of mine tried it, he posted his experiences here:

http://www.sin.nuigalway.ie/boards/viewtopic.php?t=6957

Canis Lupus

That was a nice, slightly more lucid than normal description of what happens... I love reading about other ppl trips (not brave enough to try that sorta stuff myself) but I hate reading the "hippie" way some ppl describe their experiences like: "It was so beautiful being a flower of peace opening in the rays of morning sunlight". That **** annoys me

Buritos

Ah i cant wait for this...


But i cant see what a problem would be,since its legal..entirely.

Nothin customs folk can do?

Anywho..

ferdi

dont do the salvia you can buy in ireland, its total ****e. you need x15 at least.

the way it was for me - i smoked it, then continued the conversation with my mates, i suddenly 'woke up' inside the trip. it was extreme.

-ADREN-

See the way on that site it has 5x 10x 15x, I take it thats like the concentration of it or something. But see it says like 1 gram, if you were going to do it with a group of people would you go for like 5 5x extracts for example? Since there only like 1 gram?

Buritos

Oh god no!
1 gram would send a person way too far into salvia-ness...
an 1/8 or a 1/4 is enough...1/4 would even be a bit much for one person...i think,cxant remember really.

ill check out that hippy forum again.

RasTa

I just ordered 100 grams of Mexicans from that site. Ill report back if they arrive and are any use

-ADREN-

Yea nice one.

Thanks for that info buritos.

Must you use a pipe to take yea?

Lenny

I'm intrested in the mushies on that site too.
how much is postage to ireland?
by the way, its total legal go for the 15x, 1 gram would get you you about 8 trips
I've done it loads of times, and to be honest I am afraid to do it anymore its just something to do it a once off.
I have 2 grams of 15x untouched upstairs and am just gona try and flog it off in trips..

Buritos

To Adren...you kinda have to use a water pipe,since it burns at such a high temperature.

Joints are useless with salvia...i think.

And about the shrooms,i think they only ship to england for shrooms! Its some bitch..but go look in some fields mang!

-ADREN-

Looking in fields though can be well dodge, especialy if you pick the wrong ones. Though now is a good time for them. What ones do u pick. Colour / shape / texture?

RasTa

Shiping is a Quid(sterling)
Actually i got an e-mail from them there. They said its ok to ship and its legal in Ireland(this true?) but shiping is an extra 2.50 making it 3.5 0 in total.

Wertz

-ADREN- wrote:

Looking in fields though can be well dodge, especialy if you pick the wrong ones. Though now is a good time for them. What ones do u pick. Colour / shape / texture?

That's what the native ones look like. Try to avoid picking anything that doesn't look like those, or anything of a browner colour. They are about 2-4 inches tall and usually grow in marshy land (though well watered fields and golf courses provide good conditions too).
Best time I found to pick was about an hour before dusk as that seemed to be the time they bloom at.

One last thing: MAKE TEA out of 'em. Eating them whole is pretty awful IMO.

And make sure to wash out the pot afterwards

Sarky

My kettle is black inside because the previous owner used to boil mushrooms in it. Perhaps this is why I grew to like tea so much after I moved house?

stevenmu

Tellox wrote:

hi, er,can someone tell me if any problems would arise if I ordered the following;
http://www.spiritgarden.co.uk/cart/index.pl?cat_id=8&pro_id=50

It's legal but you could get some customs people who wouldn't know what it is or realise it's legal, they may confiscate it just to be safe. If it doesn't arrive you probably can't ring them up and say "Hi, I orderded this hallucinogen off the internet which is completly legal but you seem to have stopped it anyway". I ordered from Sage Wisdom before, they put it in a plain envelope and wrap some plain a4 sheets around it so it doesn't look conspicous.

Blub2k4

www.salviadivinorum.org is a good spot to use for experiences etc.
IMO once is enough to try the stuff and it is HARDCORE, dont be fooled by the legal status.
I have tried most and this is the scariest I ever tried.

Lenny

wellcoolstuff.com ship mushrooms fresh and kits to ireland
i mailed them ages ago to ask them.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

www.potseeds.co.uk hahve a kilo of magic mushrooms for 100/125 sterling.

not sure what the postage is, but you could get 5-10 lads together and get the kilo and it would work out cheap enough.

I am MAN

I've ordered 250 woodrose seeds and some salvia

On the way from www.iamshaman.com

Great woodrose seeds with 95% germination and picked my free salvia gift but am going to order 16oz of top notch salvia and make a fortune selling it round here.

Gonna make a fair amount off the woodrose...60 dollars for 250 seeds

loads of business to be made

Lenny

Whats the seeds do and how many yea have to take to get an effect?
and whats top notch salvia? as in is it pure or something?

I am MAN

eat about 8 seeds and ya trip alot better than mushies infact its more like acid and lasts up to 10 hours without the horrible head afterwards, they can be quite intense ive taken them once before ages ago and just decided id order em to give them a go again.

Yeah top of the range salvia grown in the right place.

I'll pm you some details.

RasTa

Well my mushys arrived today. Only took 4 days shipping aswell. On the box it said there "gourmet Mushrooms" Anyway they look like the same mexicans i got in Amsterdam and theres a good few of them. Should be enough for 2 or 3 people. Its my 21st tommorow so ill report back.

Edited for a photo if anyone wants it

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

happy tripping

RasTa

Phew, 10 outta 10 for that batch of mushys... better then the damm! The batch had 6 of us gone. If you seen some spacers in doyles last night downstairs or walking out for a smoke it was probaly us. woulda being fun if there was enough for all my mates!

-ADREN-

Where you get them from Rasta? How much?

RasTa

It was 27.50 for 100grams of mexicans. Get 5 or 6 of your mates to go in on them. They will do the job. Price above is in sterling and i got them from spiritgarden.co.uk

I am MAN

Cool I think I might order some. How many shrooms did you have to eat each? How intense was the trip and also how long did it last?

How long do potseeds.co.uk take to deliver?

RasTa

I got them from spiritgarden and they took 4 days. I think i ate 10 and was prty wasted. Prob the wrong setting since it was my 21st and only 6 of us were done. But i found it hard to hold converstation with people and i if it wasnt my 21st i woulda went home to chill out. But t'was good i was really hyper and the trip only got intense for about 30 mins. 2 of my other mates were out of it. I think it depends on the person myself. Just order some there good fun

I am MAN

Hmm they dont sound too strong only intense for 30 mins, you should try woodrose seeds!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

between six of them they would have had about 16-17 grammes each .. and the reccomended beginners trip for mexicans is 30 grammes.. 100 grammes would probably do two people *very* nicely for a trip.

I am MAN

I've had mexicans before and I just ate two and I got a nice trip that lasted longer than an hour, they were reallly dried out id love to get my hands on them

RasTa

Yea we all had done them before and were wasted. Some only took 4 or 5 mushys and were gone. I think it had to do with the setting aswell. Downstairs in doyles was a bit of a mindphuck

I am MAN

They say if you dry them out they become alot more potent like eating two dried out is the equivelent of 20 grams??

I've read this a few places, Have you tried it?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you only need a lower dosage of the dried shrooms because.. well, they're dried.. so the same amount of mushrooms just weighs less. They don't become more potent, they just weight less.

they are of course, illegal when dried out

-ADREN-

Went picking there in Macroom golf course, and got about 120 native MM's. Went home, and starting eating at around 6-7. Come up was roughly 1 hour, and then after that it was just madness for about 3 hours. We took roughly 40 each, I put mine into orange juice and squashed them around in it, and just drank it back, far easier then eating the horrible things. It was me and 3 other lads in the apartment. Very cool insane hallucinations, including walls melting and curtains doing all sorts of stuff. Watching tv was seriously messed up.

Anyways thanks for the info on collecting them.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

if you're taking shrooms.. I reccomend watching fraggle rock. you'll know why when you watch it.

Canis Lupus

question on shrooms...... take for example drink or hash. Taking either allows you some semblence of sanity if u are required to act normally ie you can go out and be around people if your high/pissed. Whats it like taking shrooms? Are you able to focus yourself if u need to or does the trip take over??

-ADREN-

From my experience at about 2 and a half hours in we decided to go to the New bar in cork uni. At this time the serious hallucinations were calming down, we were able to interact and stuff but things were still very odd, everything is loud and shiney and your like "wtf wtf" all the time. Basically its best if you dont go out and socialise, just relax in a comfortable place with nice music with good chilled bass sounds, and low lights. On the focusing thing, like your able to hold a somewhat normal conversation, its just that things you hear and things you see get messed up, but generaly you can understand peoples voices when there talking to you, unless things get real deep.

The colour of things and rooms in dim light is just amazing though all golden, tis class.

Tellox

The salvia arrived all safe the other day.. And everyone lived happily ever after.

w00t, 2000th post

Blisterman

Well congratulations. (On the 2000th post, not the salvia)

rubadub

Tellox wrote:

The salvia arrived all safe the other day.. And everyone lived happily ever after.

except your neighbour who spotted a drooling fiend bellowing plumes of black smoke while parading around the front garden in the raw