Danny Carey Vs. Mike Portnoy

mp3guy

Well, who's better and why? I can't make up my mind, but I'm leaning towards Portnoy...

feylya

Mmm, Carey is nicely mathematical in his drumming but Portnoy is just insane. Ah, it'll be Portnoy for me

Baggio

Mike Portnoy easily for me,,,great technique and imagination around the kit...and after all Neil Peart is his idol and inspiration and it shows!

ciao' amigos Baggio...........

Pet

Wellll...Portnoy does seem to be even better than Carey, but as a band member, Carey is clearly better - he's a key player in Tool, many (including me) would say he's the driving force. And where he loses on pure skill, he gains in technical and mathematical proficiency, and overall intelligence.

John

I prefer Carey's style

Doctor J

Sean Reinert.

After him I'd probably go for Portnoy but any funny business and he'd get the smackdown

Heathen

mp3guy wrote:

Well, who's better and why? I can't make up my mind, but I'm leaning towards Portnoy...

Portnoy for me man!!
Savage Drummer

Macker

Pugsley

Id go for Portnoy myself, superb drummer, but if the choice was there Pete Sandoval simply runs rings around the pair of em

mp3guy

seems the carey voters aren't saying why, how many people here have actually heard BOTH drummers?

cournioni

Got to be Portnoy. The guy has it all.

Mr. CooL ICE

mp3guy wrote:

seems the carey voters aren't saying why, how many people here have actually heard BOTH drummers?

Me. Ive heard Carey more, but what I've heard of Portnoy is better.

12 tom roll? Muhahahaha

smackbunnybaby

i think portnoy may be better technically, but id go for carey cus he knows when to throw in that killer drum fill or role.some of the greatest drumming ive heard are on the patient, the grudge and stinkfist

theyellowdart12

oh hi all, heheh hi mp3guy, what did i say! eh i told u id vote on this some day and hey! here i am , well its daney all the way! WOOT! hes fantastic , i know mike is good, but have u ever just blanked out and just listened to daney.............i do all the time, it sometimes puts me to sleep, or i blank out and tis great fun , but iv made my point just listen to ticks or leeches or parabola or reflection or intolerance or......

edson

i was gonna vote for carey, but then didn't cos i haven't heard any of portnoy's stuff
which dream theater album(s) should i get?
i'l make my mind up then....

IamtheKing

Danny Careys winning! Aw man, for me mike portnoy wins by a mile. He's so technically brilliant it boggles the mind. (Literally, my head hurts)

The Free Man

I would pick carey from those two, but neither are nowhere near my top 5:
Brad Wilk (RATM)
BIll Ward (Black Sabbath)
Dave Grohl
Jon Theodore (The Mars Volta)
Brad Wilk (Yes I know hes in here twice, hes that good )

They're not in any type of order, just the drummers who've influenced me to become a better drummer.

mp3guy

The Free Man wrote:

I would pick carey from those two, but neither are nowhere near my top 5:
Brad Wilk (RATM)
BIll Ward (Black Sabbath)
Dave Grohl
Jon Theodore (The Mars Volta)
Brad Wilk (Yes I know hes in here twice, hes that good )

They're not in any type of order, just the drummers who've influenced me to become a better drummer.

Dave Grohl? you can't be serious, he doesn't even use double base...

Doctor J

Don't knock Dave Grohl. His musicality is excellent, and that's big part of being a great drummer too.

The Free Man

mp3guy wrote:

Dave Grohl? you can't be serious, he doesn't even use double base...

he uses a double kick pedal, u only need one kickdrum 4 that.

it doesn't matter how many drums are in a drummers drumkit that makes them good (portnoy and carey have about a zillion drums each :P), its what he/she can do their drums, imho

edson

The Free Man wrote:

he uses a double kick pedal, u only need one kickdrum 4 that.

where did ya hear that?
he definitely didn't for Nirvana

Karl Hungus

Probot, edson.

edson

oh right yeah, only heard about 2 of their songs, didn't think there was a need to buy the whole album

mp3guy

well, portnoy has a 23 piece including his 5 china drums, carey has about a 12 piece. And portnoy uses a double bass pedal on each bass drum, so thats like quadrupal bass.

theyellowdart12

euch , je suis malade! oh yeah ,. no daneys better , its just the natural way of things.........like eh. teh way u cant stop ur head dripping when ur sick.....i hate being sick

The Free Man

mp3guy wrote:

..... portnoy uses a double bass pedal on each bass drum, so thats like quadrupal bass.

serious? didnt know that.
so what does he, like, hav 4 legs or sumtin?

Doctor J

mp3guy wrote:

well, portnoy has a 23 piece including his 5 china drums, carey has about a 12 piece. And portnoy uses a double bass pedal on each bass drum, so thats like quadrupal bass.

But they laws of physics dictate he has only 4 limbs with which to hit them. Does he really need a 23 piece kit? Of course not, he could probably strip at least half of it away and still sound just the same, the stupidly large kit is just opulance. A big kit definitely does not mean a good drummer (and often indicates a mediocre one, sadly) in the same way a huge gold chain does not equal a great rapper. Very often the better drummers will make greater use of less drums (I would steer you towards looking at the setup of some jazz drummers who would make Portnoy sound like the duracell bunny).

theyellowdart12

yeah but its incase hes on one side of the kit and he has to use the double bass...but then u could say just dont have such a big kit. daney learned how to drum jazz style before he moved on. his former teacher plays the bongos on the live push1t lol im such a tool fan,

mp3guy

Doctor J wrote:

But they laws of physics dictate he has only 4 limbs with which to hit them. Does he really need a 23 piece kit? Of course not, he could probably strip at least half of it away and still sound just the same, the stupidly large kit is just opulance. A big kit definitely does not mean a good drummer (and often indicates a mediocre one, sadly) in the same way a huge gold chain does not equal a great rapper. Very often the better drummers will make greater use of less drums (I would steer you towards looking at the setup of some jazz drummers who would make Portnoy sound like the duracell bunny).

Yeah, on LTE2 he only has about an 8 piece and is still great. A 23 piece, well he hardly plays all of them, but it gives variation. And you can't say the just best portnoy has a big kit hes "medicore", he's far from it.

Doctor J

No, I wasn't referring to Portnoy, just making the point that big kits mean nothing and shouldn't be used to gauge how good or bad a drummer is...

mp3guy

yes, you're right. Like that guy from blink 182, he's really good and got a small kit, except he's in a band to bad to listen too.. for me anyway

spunkymunky

For me its carey. There both amazing but i prefer Danny, his all round style is more varied and i think he is more creative using different time signature more effectively than portnoy. Just look at any song on lateralus or any of TOOL's albums!!!!
Also TOOL are better than (to me) than dream theater or LTE

mp3guy

well, its a matter of opinion, because chances are they are equal in skill

Dcully

Dave Grohl is a class drummer,i love his drumming on that Queens of stoneage track bloody awesome.
Im new to Dream Theater but Portnoy is amazing.

mp3guy

he is. I love the sound of his octaves(i think they're called?) those small long drums, make a cool noise.

Pet

Dcully wrote:

Dave Grohl is a class drummer,i love his drumming on that Queens of stoneage track bloody awesome.

Jimmy Chamberlain (of Smashing Pumpkins fame) is much, much better though.

theyellowdart12

oh yes of course...........but eh..................daney ( says it all ) even his name has style! :cool:

mp3guy

yes, but anyway, can someone tall me what/how portnoy plays the drums at 5:45 onwards in Another Dimension on LTE2? He's playing a normal beat, and also playing quick chops on the other side of his kit O_o