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NTL upgrading to 3Mb - lowest package will be 1Mb!!

  • 03-11-2004 1:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭


    Read up here. It's not for Ireland....but we usually get the NTL upgrades soon after so 3mb soon :D All I need is for NTL to upgrade my area :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    I await NTL arriving in my area.. I've had enough of Netsource.. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭MickFarr


    oh yes!! :D

    I hope they will be upgrading the upload speed as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Um....w00t?

    What the hell will I do with 2mbit?

    Of course, twill be a long while till they upgrade us. We only just recently got upgraded....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭gline


    Is NTL broadband available in ranelagh\rathmines area??? anyone got it there??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭tomk


    seamus wrote:
    What the hell will I do with 2mbit?

    It will be a struggle, certainly, but I reckon I could get used to it.... :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭MickFarr


    seamus wrote:
    Um....w00t?

    What the hell will I do with 2mbit?

    Of course, twill be a long while till they upgrade us. We only just recently got upgraded....


    We got upgraded at the same time as the UK did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭gline


    I reckon u could find a use for it no problemo :) no need to rent out movies, just stream them ansd set up a games server, heheheheh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    *flibble*

    Please please please.... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    seamus wrote:
    *flibble*

    They will be introducing a CAP as part of the migration process.

    20Gb for 1MB
    30GB for 2MB
    40GB for 3MB


    If your set top box is old it may have to be swapped .......if you wish to stay on the slower uncapped services you could always hold onto the box :)

    Gossip and Factoids are Here . Dunno what happens if you bust the CAP

    M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭neokenzo


    gline wrote:
    Is NTL broadband available in ranelagh\rathmines area??? anyone got it there??

    I want to know too!!! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭carrotcake


    Read up here. It's not for Ireland....but we usually get the NTL upgrades soon after so 3mb soon :D
    we've been upgraded the same time as the uk the last two times (which i think were the only two times), so i don't think this'll be any different!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭thund3rbird_


    Muck wrote:
    If your set top box is old it may have to be swapped .......if you wish to stay on the slower uncapped services you could always hold onto the box


    STB broadband is only used in UK
    In Ireland it's all standalone modems - most people have the ambit (silver) one

    cable modems can operate well over 3 or 4 meg (I think 30 meg is around max for cable broadband although in practice I think 10meg is the highest available???) so should be no need to change the modems - just a quick change on ntl's side (that is if the increase is implemented over here all links to the u/g are uk).
    look at CaseyCable in Dungarvan - 9 meg ***uncapped*** for 40 yo-yos p/m

    good to see it if it happens tho.
    might prompt the other operators to cop on with their pricing/rollout etc.

    maybe then ????? :dreams:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Jorinn


    gline wrote:
    Is NTL broadband available in ranelagh\rathmines area??? anyone got it there??
    No, in fact there I'll go further and say that it won't happen for the forseeable future, don't believe them when they tell you a "few months" when you ring them. They've been saying that for years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    What about Foxrock/Leopardstown?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    What about Foxrock/Leopardstown?

    Old sh1tty cable just like Ranelagh and Rathgar . It will be done last probably , after the modern cabling areas on the Northside !

    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Ah well, stick with IBB for a while longer so!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭STaN


    their aiming have most of their customers upgraded by 2005. With the way the irish do things, say 06-2005 :)

    Anyway they seem to be upgrading gradually from the west to the east with lucan tallaght, then onto clondalkin & blanchardstown etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭gline


    Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! looks like ranelagh/rathmines will be waiting ages :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭MickFarr


    Muck wrote:
    They will be introducing a CAP as part of the migration process.

    20Gb for 1MB
    30GB for 2MB
    40GB for 3MB


    If your set top box is old it may have to be swapped .......if you wish to stay on the slower uncapped services you could always hold onto the box :)

    Gossip and Factoids are Here . Dunno what happens if you bust the CAP

    M

    NTL: have not said anything about caps I guess that it has been stated unofficialy somewhere else. All they have announced is the new download speeds. No info yet on upload speeds


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    MickFarr wrote:
    NTL: have not said anything about caps I guess that it has been stated unofficialy somewhere else. All they have announced is the new download speeds. No info yet on upload speeds
    Also in Ireland there is no *huge* need for caps because NTL don't quite have the same number of subs here as compared to the UK. Of course that could change if they actually got up off their ass and upgraded Dublin. 2006 is when I expect them to get around to Blanch - I mean after all it's only 110'000 people - YOUNG, TECH-SAVY families. For what reason would NTL ever want to upgrade Blanch for? No market after all :mad: Oh well I go back to waiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭fjon


    What about Foxrock/Leopardstown?

    I live reasonably close (Sandyford Ind Est) and have it. Very happy with it too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Jorinn


    gline wrote:
    Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! looks like ranelagh/rathmines will be waiting ages :mad:
    Understatement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 370 ✭✭Adey2002


    My Bro lives in one of the houses next to the Leopardstown roundabout, and NTL isn't available there yet, so I would say Foxrock is a definite no no, and I would imagine that Lep is too.


    If you have NTL already, get your customer number and check whats available from the NTL site...

    http://www.ntl.com/locales/ie/en/sales/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Gilgamesh


    Funny enough, I live in Lower Dorset street, and we can't get NTL Broadband either.
    I caled the guys yesterday, and after been ping ponged about for 15 minutes I talked to a Supervisor, who said, NTL's official statement was that they will have Broadband available to ENTIRE Dublin before THIS X-Mas.
    So fingers crossed.
    I know they have said this a few times in the past, but looking at the Works been done allover the place, it might be true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    Gilgamesh wrote:
    Funny enough, I live in Lower Dorset street, and we can't get NTL Broadband either.
    I caled the guys yesterday, and after been ping ponged about for 15 minutes I talked to a Supervisor, who said, NTL's official statement was that they will have Broadband available to ENTIRE Dublin before THIS X-Mas.
    Ye Santa Claus is doing the work for them :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭carrotcake


    more natter here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭CivilServant


    Will they be enforcing the caps this time round? Methinks probably not.

    NTL get your act together and move outside tha big shmoke. There's people outside the pale y'know!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭carrotcake


    Will they be enforcing the caps this time round? Methinks probably not.
    i'd say they will, given that there's going to be different caps for the different tiers. plus significantly upgrading the speeds for next to nothing is a pretty good time to start enforcing!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭MickFarr


    Oops!

    double post :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭MickFarr


    carrotcake wrote:
    i'd say they will, given that there's going to be different caps for the different tiers. plus significantly upgrading the speeds for next to nothing is a pretty good time to start enforcing!

    I asked the administrator (Peter M) at ChetNet for info on any new caps and he said that NTL have only announced the speed upgrades. No mention of Caps or Upload speed changes !

    If I'm wrong post an offical link not some bloke in a forum link ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭carrotcake


    you're right there. the pages upon pages of cap talk have gotten to me! apparently it's an ntl employee who gave the info on the caps tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭carrotcake


    ...oh well, it turns out to be true. from http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=19335&page=19&pp=15
    More Info....

    Some people have been asking some questions and I have over the last 24 hours sought to get some of them answered.

    £25 Administration Fee

    Simon Duffy - Chief executive of ntl has told me that these upgrades are going to cost ntl tens of millions of pounds, he doesn't expect customers to pay for the increases but it does not seem unreasonable to ask them to contribute a modest amount to the cost of the upgrade. Simon says, Wanadoo has done the same for its 1 MB product.

    Usage Allowance

    The usage caps are that previously mentioned in this thread they have been confirmed as:-

    1Mbps = 5GB month usage allowance.
    2Mbps = 30GB month usage allowance.
    3Mbps = 40GB month usage allowance.

    Simon Duffy has stated to me:-

    "I think the market needs to accept that the days of unlimited usage for all are over. The vast majority of users will not be impacted by the limits, but the small number who regularly use GB by the ton drive our costs up significantly and, since we are not a charity, we need to recover them somehow. It doesn't seem fair to ask the majority of moderate users to subsidise the small number of heavy users and usage caps are the best way to ensure fair treatment for all."

    Upload Speeds

    NTL will release more information such as this in the new year however ntl do not think that the current upload speeds will be changing.

    Going on the fact that they have not given me a definitive answer, is probably an indication that they have not made a final decision on what the upload speeds will be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    What's the point of having 3Mbps with a 40GB cap :eek: Look at the 1Mb - 5GB, those figures are totally stupid! You could get 5GB in a matter of hours on 1Mb for gods sake :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    /me waits patiently this time for NTL's upgrade...

    1.5mbps is nice, 3mbps is nicer :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    unkel wrote:
    1.5mbps is nice, 3mbps is nicer :)
    With a 40Gb cap :confused: Hopefully though they wont care about it here in Ireland
    *Offler crosses fingers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Yeah I'm against caps out of principle, but NTL haven't enforced it yet :)

    Also 40GB>>4GB ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    40gig/month is liveable with. That's more than a gig a day..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭MickFarr


    I would take that with a pinch of salt. Wait till NTL announce it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kin9pin


    Adey2002 wrote:

    If you have NTL already, get your customer number and check whats available from the NTL site...

    http://www.ntl.com/locales/ie/en/sales/
    I was told by an NTL guy not to go by the website. Best thing is to ring them direct, my customer number shows BB unavailable but I rang them and found out it is.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭neokenzo


    5GB cap for a 1MB line is ridiculous. Its way way too little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭gline


    Yep any cap is ridiculous for high speed connections 1 meg upwards. Thats exactly why u would get it - to download


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    .. but you're not paying for guarenteed bandwidth and that's why they can sell it so cheap. You aren't entitled to max out your line 24*7, or anywhere near it. It's not 'ridiculous'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭uteotw


    That comment from NTL, "I think the market needs to accept that the days of unlimited usage for all are over" , is a load of crap. They just don't want to compete, especially in Ireland where even if now there a several broadband offers many of them are slow (512kbit), capped and expensive for the service provided compared to the rest of europe.

    "Free", in France, is lauching 15mbit for €30 per month... including 100 TV channels and free phone calls.

    http://www.vnunet.fr/actu/article.htm?numero=12906&date=2004-10-19


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭Colly


    Is there any news on NTL Ireland upgrading there services to 1mb, 2mb, and 3mb, does anyone know, is it to happen, if so when and will it cost more (a one of charge or a higher monthly tariff)?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    Also in Ireland there is no *huge* need for caps because NTL don't quite have the same number of subs here as compared to the UK. Of course that could change if they actually got up off their ass and upgraded Dublin. 2006 is when I expect them to get around to Blanch - I mean after all it's only 110'000 people - YOUNG, TECH-SAVY families. For what reason would NTL ever want to upgrade Blanch for? No market after all :mad: Oh well I go back to waiting.

    Lots of people in D.15 have it. I've heard of people from Clonsilla to Cabra getting it. What are you using now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    I'm in the Cabra area. You actually have to contact a sales person as NTL's customer help department is weak. They dont even know that areas that dont have BB enablement have it. In terms of download caps if there are caps it should be at least 70-100GB on the 3MB/s connection as even I've found that I can streach the download limit to its maximum and ive had it less than 2 MONTHS! :mad:


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