I Went to see planet of the apes.

Hobbes

"Damn you! You took a classic movie and destroyed it!!! Damn you! Daaamn Yoouu!!"



Help me Dr Zaius

Illkillya

lol thats exactly what i thought.
if they had given it a different name it would have been OK... like "The Simian Planet" or something but now when ppl mention planet of the apes, a lot of ppl will think of the new one and it was awful

"Never send a monkey to do a man's job"...

[-Morpheus-]

Is it even good?

Karl Hungus

I'm planning on seeing it anyway...

I used to love the old films as a kid, and although I haven't seen them in a while, they kicked **** !

Besides...
I usualy find that when I go to a film with low expectations, I can be rather suprised at the film.

Saw unbreakable the other day, and I thought it was actualy pretty good, despite people saying it was ****e.

Belisarius

It was really doomed anyway , you cant make a remake of a film like that , And besides the TV series was better than the film , And as for this great "Directed by Tim burton" pitch , I wouldnt put too much faith in that either , esp. after sleepy hollow

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The Man From Delmonte , He Say "Yes"

Loomer

Kix, I getting a strange vibe that you didn't like the film?

ObeyGiant

Heh.. Directors just can't win.
Gus Van Sant reshot Psycho, scene for scene, and got slated.
Now, Tim Burton remakes POTA, injecting something new into the movie.. and gets slated.

Damn, I wish people would make up their minds as to what they want.

I personally enjoyed this movie. I didn't enjoy the original too much, so I didn't feel "betrayed", and I certainly didn't feel like Tim Burton had "destroyed" anything. As Kix says.. there wasn't much emphasis placed on the characters in this movie, but, looking at his success in developing characters in previous movies, I have a feeling this was a conscious decision by the director.

Maybe a bit more retro kitsch would have saved it from being slammed.

Draco

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ObeyGiant:
Gus Van Sant reshot Psycho, scene for scene, and got slated.</font>

And rightly deserved to be. As bad as remakes, copying the film *exactly* brings nothing to it and is worth less than the steam off my p!ss. What was the point?

ObeyGiant

Didn't mean to sound like I was justifying Gus Van Sant's exercise in cinematic self-indulgence... just explaining how, if Tim Burton had gone down that road with POTA, he would have been slated.

People knew Tim Burton's style before POTA was released.. surely they could have guessed it would be darker than the original? Surely a lot of time (and paper/pixels) could have been saved if people had taken this into account before they saw the film and decided it wasn't living up to the POTA name, and then gone and written about how it wasn't what they were expecting?

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Kix

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ObeyGiant:
Now, Tim Burton remakes POTA, injecting something new into the movie.. and gets slated.</font>

That actually was one of the things that upset me most actually, it just didn't seem "Tim Burton". It could have been by any 2-bit director.

I'm a big, big fan of Tim Burton's but I couldn't discern his hand in this lacklustre effort.

K

Bard

I went to the preview showing of it in UCI last night. - Went with an open mind and enjoyed it - to the extent that I wasn't blown away but thought it was worth the ticket price as it did entertain me, - predictable and all as it was, the effects and make-up were excellent as were some of the individual performances, particularly Helena Bonham Carter and Tim Roth.

I certainly didn't go expecting it to be comparable to the original Planet of the Apes movie... it's not exactly a remake, folks, if it's a different story... (which it is). Nice to see Charlton Heston in it too... a funny moment came in the cinema when Tim Roth's character and Heston's character are having a father-son chat. Roth's character asks Heston's character "How can you possibly know this?!" - ... to which someone in the cinema said out loud: "Because I'm Charlton Heston, motherf*cker! I know everything!"

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Bard

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'First motorbike in the bible ???? ---- a Triumph --- 'Yea verily Moses struck down the ammmanites and all the land heard the roar of his triumph !!!'

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Kix

I was at it last night. Went with an open mind and a great love for everything else of Tim Burton's I've ever see but it's just as disappointing as Hobbes says.

Couldn't have cared less about any of the characters and the storyline was weak. I thought about leaving.

I don't understand how they could have got it so wrong, the thing just has no atmosphere at all. It's dead.

A definite:

K

PS: Even worse than the movie though was sitting beside Monkeys-are-funny-man all through the movie. He was literaly pointing and guffawing to his mate most of the way through the film. Talk about apes!



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WhiteWashMan

i hate every ape from chimpan-a to chimpan -z

yes you finally made a monkey out of me....

TwoShedsJackson

I liked it - it started very well, although it did go off the rails a bit around the point where they reach the 'ruins'. The ending was hardly a colossal surprise - it's just left open for a sequel and I think Tim Burton is probably just trying to wreck peoples heads.

Tim Roth was excellent - a great physical performance, so was Helena Bonham Carter. Wahlberg was weak, he played it very straight and his character had next to zero depth.

On the other hand this has been one of the worst years ever for movies so on that scale I rate it fairly good, if obviously not a complete success.

Venom

What Castor said.

The coke and popcporn was good tho

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"I don't mind shooting myself in the foot as long as get the other guy in the @rse."

swiss

Hrm, went to see it yesterday as well

I haven't seen the original planet of the apes, nor any episodes of the resultant series, so I didn't have any expectations/preconceptions regarding any parallels that might be drawn between it and the original.

Thought it was OK. Like Castor Troy said there haven't been many good films this summer (with the notable exception of Shrek). There really wasn't too much to distinguish this from the typical sci-fi fare. The FX were quite good though. It's main selling tag is it's attempt to recreate the whole nostalgia surrounding the planet of the apes - and quite frankly it hasn't worked in this regard.

Karl Hungus

Well... It seems to me, you are either going to love it or hate it...

For me, the former.
I thought it was excelent!

Mark Wahlberg was pretty hollow, unfortunatly.
How he got cast is totaly beyond me!?!

But he wasn't quite that bad in Three Kings, he does not deserve leading roles, and epescialy not this one.

Tim Roth on the other hand, really put on a great preformance!

The story, pretty predictable, but very good, I loved the ending!

It's definetly evident that burton didn't really have much of a hand in writing it though.

I do think it was a very good film none the less.
Definetly one I would like to see again or possibly and addition to the DVD collection at some stage in the future.

It was a highlight of the summer, film wise anyway.

But... With the recent slop of hollywood money makers being hashed out, that's not a hard task.

Puck

The main problem with the new Planet of the Apes is that it is only half a film really. The old one had a good ending that didn't really need a sequel. It was a good film in itself and would still be a classic if it wasn't part of a whole series.

This new film needs to have a sequel. Not because it is so good but because the ending needs to be explained and elaborated on.

First I thought it would have been OK if they left out the part where he landed on Earth and just ended the film with him flying off the Ape planet into space but if they left it like that it would have been a crap ending and there would be nothing in the film to draw me in or leave me with a cool after-thought about the story.

What's wrong with the new film is that the story can't stand up on it's own and it is like watching half a film.

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John (yes THE John!)
"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."

adnans

"What tribe are you from?" - "United States Air Force!"

that tells you everything. you decide.

adnans

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kent brockman: "... and while we're speaking of well educated manner they tend to use low brow expressions like 'oh Yeah' and 'come here a minute'.
homer: "oh yeah!, they think they're better then us. bart, come here a minute!"
bart: "you come here a minute"
homer "oh yeahhh!"

corkie

I enjoyed the film.

Because I have seen the oringal's, I know the plot around it.

I wonder what people think of this film if they never read the book or watch the oringals.

Us oldies and sci-fi fans can understand the plot and thories around the film.
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-(P.S. It is not a remake/sequeal but a -
-'New Script' by William Broyles Jr.) -
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But a younger and new audience to it would probably not.

I have also been checking out the official site. (Uncomforably so) You realy need to have a BROADBAND connection and/or flatrate
access to enjoy that rich site.

I have started to develop an Irish Fan Site
for this film. This prelimery site is available from http://POTA.nosfratu.com .

Please send any comments or suggestion on this site to me by e-mail: potapes@nosfratu.com

Additional links include
Potad.nosfratu.com --- This board
potalinks.nosfratu.com -- Links provide by google
potagroups.nosfratu.com -- Google Groups

potaos.nosfratu.com -- Offical site (excluding intros)

<A HREF="http://pota.nosfratu.com&quot; TARGET=_blank>
POTA</A>: The vistor

Best regards

John.

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Cliph

It's not a remake, it's a new film based on the book (La planète des singes) - not a remake of the 60's movie.
I've heard the like a lot of movies these days the opening beckons a sequal but Burton has said he wont be making one.

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http://chicks-dig-unix.net/

corkie

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cliph:
it's a new film based on the book (La planète des singes) </font>

I agree with you that it is not a remake of the orignal. But is based more on the story
from all the past POTA movies and only very losely based on the book.

Ape Planet: A Summary of Pierre Boulle's Novel
http://planetoapes.tripod.com/reviews/bookplot.html

Best regards,
John

Scrap

final fantasy was surprisingly good.

didnt expect much of it before i went in..

richindub2

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scrap:
final fantasy was surprisingly good.

didnt expect much of it before i went in..</font>

Um, wrong film/thread?

POTA was a bit of a dissapointment imo, the adds made it look good to me for some reason (Dunno why looking back actually ), the film just didnt live up to it